Are you saying that John McCain is actually a Republican?!
My bad!
FUJM!!!
Posted on 11/22/2011 7:54:13 PM PST by rabscuttle385
Edited on 11/22/2011 8:03:27 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
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Rabs, there is no doubt in my mind that you have ‘LibDAR’ (Liberal Radar), you can detect those scumbags no matter WHAT disguise or camouflage they attempt to utilize.
Both democrats and Republicans have no clue as regards to what needs to be done : deporting illegals and stopping Cheap China products that are destroying America's factories and manufacturing ability and jobs.
Are you saying that John McCain is actually a Republican?!
My bad!
FUJM!!!
I dont agree with that- if you are born here of people who are here illegally you should NOT be a citizen and automagically entitle your illegal parents to free welfare
” Naturalization takes longer than that. But I think 10 years down the road you would see the signs of the death of the USA, and 20 years after amnesty there would be no chance of a conservative POTUS. Overwhelming majorities of leftists would take over all 3 branches of government and make immigration policy and “distribute the wealth” even more generous. “
Bingo !
I’m not a Republican.
Most Republicans and all Democrats have sold out America to China and Mexico and illegals.
What I am for is eliminating the IRS, EPA and closing the border to illegals and manufactured products from China and other foreign countries.
I don’t know what that makes me . But me, Pat Buchanan and only a few others have a clue as to what is causing the decline in jobs and the decline in America. Most Americans , don’t have a clue. And most politicians are vile,corrupt scum that don’t have a clue.
I’m not a Republican.
Most Republicans and all Democrats have sold out America to China and Mexico and illegals.
What I am for is eliminating the IRS, EPA and closing the border to illegals and manufactured products from China and other foreign countries.
I don’t know what that makes me . But me, Pat Buchanan and only a few others have a clue as to what is causing the decline in jobs and the decline in America. Most Americans , don’t have a clue. And most politicians are vile,corrupt scum that don’t have a clue.
But democrats are worse as democrats are evil international socialists bent on destroying America and capitalism. Funny that rabscuttle and your little group do very little bashing of democrats or pointing out who they are.
The liberal Romney can't even be supported on this website, and I have no problem with that, but I also don't see him as much(if any) worse than some of the other liberal career politicians who aren't right on things such as illegal immigration. Romney is better than Obama, so should we support him? No, because there is a point that we Conservatives shouldn't cross when it comes to voting for the lesser of two evils. I just think a lot more of our candidates should be in the same group as Romney. I'm not going to what the establishment Republicans expect me to do this time around no matter what. Pretty much any electable candidate will be better than Obama, Republican or Democrat, so that's not a good enough reason alone to support them. After all we are talking about a guy who isn't our first horrible President, but who is probably the first who actually dislikes the U.S., and wants to see it's decline.
I'm sick of the same old career politician establishment guys who haven't done what's needed, and that's why I'm going with Herman Cain who's someone completely new. I will risk inexperience, and the unknown, over the same old status quo candidates we keep getting. I think Herman Cain is right on the most important issues he's talked about, and the fact he's not a career politician is good with me. Cain, and Bachmann are the only two candidates who are serious when it comes to stopping illegal immigration I've heard. The only reason they have declined in the polls is because we allowed the liberal media, and establishment Republicans, to shape our views of them. They want us to think anyone who poses a threat to Obama, and particularly one of their voting democgraphics, as being the stupidest, and most unqualified people on earth when the truth is exactly the opposite. That's why guys like Cain are attacked viciously at a ridiculous rate, or completely ignored as if they aren't even in the running.
They did it to Sarah Palin as well, and it seems some Conservatives fall for their ploy, and do what's wanted by the liberals in the media. They know they can't change a Conservative into a liberal, but they do know they can still destroy a Conservative politician in the minds of some Conservatives voters, and make them move on because their candidate is now “electable”, or some other reason that's not based on reality, but on being brainwashed with the negativity on continual basis.
Not all issues are equal, and I can fully support a candidate who I disagree with on more issues than I agree, if we just happen to agree on the most important issues facing the survival of our nation. Illegal immigration is just as important as the rest of the issues the candidates say must be fixed to save the United States, and our power\influence, but it's also ignored by many of those same politicians who are too scared of the issue, or don't see it for the problem it is. I believe most just see it as too hard of a problem to go after hard now because of fear, because it's not a problem that's hard to see. It's one of the easiest issues to see, and explain the problems it's causing to others. Guys like Gingrich can't see legal, and illegal Hispanic immigrants any differently like many Republicans, and only think about votes instead of what's best for the nation.
There is a difference between illegal, and legal immigration. It has to be stopped for the survival of our nation, and not stopping it will do nothing to get Republican votes in the long run. It's just a cowards way of ignoring an issue they know will destroy the United States, so they can have their temporary power and success. That's what makes them despicable to me.
There are a few issues that our nations survival depends on, and if a candidate can't take them all serious then they don't deserve our vote. They can disagree with me on many other issues, and I will still proudly vote for them if they are right on the issues that are killing our nation. No one is going to agree with me 100% of the time, and that's not what I'm looking for in a candidate. Illegal immigration is the only one of these issues that isn't even talked about seriously in complete contrast to vast majority of U.S. citizens. Many voters have just stopped thinking about the issue because they don't expect it to ever be taken serious, and some have started to believe it's not as serious as it is. Just because it's been ignored for decades, doesn't mean it's not just as important as our other issues that have also been ignored, but at least openly seen for what they are.
It's hard enough to believe we will get a politician that can actually make the spending cuts needed, and limit the power of the federal government significantly the way it was meant to be, without ignorant voters pushing them out of power. That's not even mentioning the fact we are ignoring an issue like illegal immigration that is changing this country, and will cause it's fall long before any nation like Iran will. We are our biggest threat.
People don't understand how easy parts of this nation could fall apart from the inside. A terrorist nation\group, can kill Americans and hurt the nation, but the fact is they have next to no chance at bringing down the U.S., but illegal immigration, which many seem to forget is sponsored by the corrupt Mexican government, not only has a change to do so, but will if it's allowed to continue at the rate it has been.
I'm not going to vote for any candidate who's wrong on any of the few, but enormous, main issues we face. The Republican establishment use that way of thinking to push whoever they want on us knowing most of us will vote against Obama even if we can't stand the Republican nominee. Most of us did it with McCain, and his ridiculous stupid campaign(such as making the stupid “campaign” ploy to “stop” his campaign and go back to Washington for the betterment of the nation over his personal election BS}, and it wasn't even that hard to start lying to yourself that McCain was something that he wasn't after seeing him compared to Obama. The Republican establishment see nothing to worry about in pushing their candidates on us because they believe they will see enough of our Conservative votes for the Republican no matter what, as we vote against Obama instead of for the Republican nominee just like we have for so many past elections. I have done it in the past after saying I wouldn't, because I always found something I could lie to myself about. Even a Conservative VP doesn't do much unless you see that person staying popular, and getting elected in 8 to the Presidency in 8 years, and hoping they are as good as you think they will be. That's not a very good thing to be hopeful about.
How about a President, and VP who are right on all the most important issues, and who are ready to enact the change to save our nation even if it's rejected by ignorant voters in the end. There is no other choice for the nation than to get someone who will at the very least try. I'm surprised we have so many career politicians with liberal actions marring their records even in consideration, much less leading the polls, after the Conservative TEA party movements rise, and show of power in elections in recent elections. I think a lot of Republicans are too cautious to leave the establishment, and the candidates they have been supporting for decades over new candidates who will bring us something different.
It's hard for a lot us to see that the Republican party isn't the Conservative party many of us thought, and will have to be changed into that by the Conservative Republican minority against the majority of the party establishment. If the liberals can turn the democrat party into the radical leftist party it's become, then why can't we turn the Republican party into the true common sense Conservative party that's popular with Americans, and is needed for our survival? Instead we continue to move to the left with the democrats. We have to take a chance to get something better, instead of electing the same predictable bad politician.
I'm voting for Herman Cain because he's exactly the new type of candidate we need to start seeing more of in each primary. He's right on the most important issues facing our nation, and isn't a career politician, and doesn't act\talk like one. Many even on our side use that against him to prop up career politicians. Cain and Bachmann are the only two I can think of that take illegal immigration serious, along with the other nation killing issues, so I see them as the only ones I could support in the general election at this point. I'm going with Cain, but I could support Bachmann unlike the other candidates. I don't want to see a liberal with a conservative as VP like before either. I want a Conservative.
I believe we have people who consider themselves part of the TEA party supporting the career politicians like Gingrich when we have a couple of real Conservatives who fit what most of us said we wanted in a candidate(including a completely new Conservative in Cain), while Gingrich has been in politics since the 50’s, takes the same “compassionate Conservative” BS stance on illegal immigration that has gotten us nothing positive, and shows where he actually stand on the issue.
Not to mention his other liberal actions such as putting the party before principle in endorsing(along with the log cabin Republicans) the extremely liberal Republican(even compared to other RINO’s) Dede Scozzafava instead of the Conservative candidate Doug Hoffman who was ahead of Scozzafaca, and shown in polls to have a real chance at winning. Meanwhile Hoffman was getting Conservative endorsements from the likes of Sarah Palin, and Fred Thompson among others. Dede Scozzafava ended up dropping out of the race, and endorsing the democrat candidate who went on to win a close race, while she came in a very distant third.
This wasn't a distant election either. It was the 2009 New York Congressional special election! This should have killed any chance Gingrich had winning the Republican nomination. Why would we choose a party before principle guy again? We should take our chances with something new like we would get with Herman Cain.
If Sarah Palin endorses Gingrich, Romney, Perry, or any of the other Republicans who I can't support in the general election then she has ruined her reputation with me, and hopefully the true Conservative TEA party movement. She would be better off not endorsing anyone than doing that, but that would also rightfully hurt her. She needs to either endorse Herman Cain or Michelle Bachmann. I think it should be Herman Cain, but at least she's still endorsing a Conservative if she went with Bachmann. Herman Cain could be a disappointment, as could any of our nominees, but he hasn't done anything to show us that, and if he is a disappointment I will call him out on it, and go with someone new in the next election, but I'm done with career politicians who have liberal blemishes on their records. I'll also support a different Conservative candidate like Bachmann, so I'm not stuck with Cain as the only nominee I will support. I will only support those I believe are Conservative who will try to change ALL of the most important things for the better, and I only see Cain and Bachmann as those willing to do that. I'm going with Herman Cain, but if Bachmann changes things around that's fine with me. I would like to see them both on the same ticket to be honest. A guy like Cain surprising us for the worse is much less likely than the guys like Romney, Perry, or Gingrich surprising us for the better. I don't know if they could surprise most of us for the “worst”, considering we know them, they definitely won't be the huge change this nation needs.
I hope everyone saw this morning the Italian bond yields now going above 7%. The cry is now for the Germans to cry “uncle”, and accept 1. the UCB backstop FOR SOVEREIGN DEBT and 2. Give up on the austerity demands, 3. with it a higher rate of inflation, esp. in Germany.
What the _ _ _ _ , do you think is happening here, with NO AUSTERITY FOR THE FEDERAL GOVT. and it’s RICO PARTNERS?
How about them food prices all?
How about those SUSTAINED gas/fuel prices all?
How about those continuous easings all?
How about those out of control high sky govt. pensions?
How about them “writing their own ticket” with Phony-Care, where they are EXEMPT?
How about those insulated high salaries folks, protecting themselves from the prices above folks?
UNLESS THESE CANDIDATES, ALL OF THEM, will SIGN a LEGAL promise to EXEMPT EVERYONE from PHONY-CARE (designed to secure out of control govt. spending on everyone elses BACKS.. (It’s SERFDOM-slavery people,) IMMEDIATELY upon taking office, then I will NOT support ANY of them...
I WILL NOT accept “death by A THOUSAND CUTS.” !!!
” Name one genuine conservative Republican that I have bashed.”
How about NONE......EVER !!
McCain (D-AZ)
LOL!! Good one Rabs : )
” But democrats are worse as democrats are evil international socialists bent on destroying America and capitalism. Funny that rabscuttle and your little group do very little bashing of democrats or pointing out who they are.”
We don’t have to. Democrat politicians are ALL 100% SCUM. I’m worried about the “ bought and paid for “ WHORES in the GOP, and how to replace them.
I’m not going to what the establishment Republicans expect me to do this time around no matter what.
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I never do. I always vote for who I want not who they want, in the primaries. However, whoever is the GOP winner is who I will vote for. I will not sit home because that is the same as voting for Hussein and I want him OUT!
Sarah was my first choice, Bachman second then Cain. Sarah chose not to run(what a shame, I think she would be the front runner now), Bachman is just not going to make it, therefore at this time Cain is still my first choice but it’s early, I could change my mind. Romney is a NO for sure, as is Huntsman, so is loony Paul, but I will see how it plays out as it gets closer to the election. I won’t rule Perry out because I think if he was President he would close the border. He can’t do it now because DC hamstrings him. Newt, not sure he would do anything. Cain, honestly, not sure he would either. I also am going to take into consideration who could beat Hussein in the debates and the elections. Everyone has their own opinion and will do what they think is best. I respect that. It is their right to sit home or vote for whoever they choose. I just hope that when the imperfect candidate( there is NO perfect candidate)wins, that the ones that take their ball and go home think about what happens if Hussein gets another 4 years and 2 more Supreme Court nominations. Will America ever be able to recover? I highly doubt it. We have already given up so much..... so very much....
They won't do anything serious about it even though it's one of the few extremely important issues that you have to be right on because it's a nation killer. Illegal immigration is the only one of those issues that's ignored, and treated completely different than the others, and it's going to take a lot to fix these few extremely important issues.
A candidate can disagree with me on everything, while taking these issues that our nations survival depends on in a serious manner, and I will support them. Not every issue is equal, and if you are wrong on one of the most important issues we face it kind of makes your other stances irrelevant. That's why I can't vote for most of the candidates though. They just can't seem to see the obvious when it comes to this issue for whatever reason.
I have always ended up voting for the Republican nominee like most, but I'm stopping it now even if Obama is literally the worst President in our history, because it just empowers the establishment by giving them the power to do what they please without any backlash from the voters. They do what they want without concern for what we want because they think they can depend on our vote against the democrat regardless of what they do.
I want Obama out as well, but I am sickened by the fact we aren't getting better Conservatives when the Conservative TEA party movement has shown to have real influence in recent elections, and Obama is going to be so weak. If we throw away our chance for something new and pick the same old career establishment politician then I don't have much hope for the nations future, and I can't support that person. I want Herman Cain to win because he has no establishment tied, but I could support Bachmann. That's about it.
Herman Cain is exactly what most of us Conservative TEA party people said we wanted in a candidate, but now we have the career politicians we were suppose to be replacing in contention. Cain might not be perfect, and he may have some unanswered questions, but he is something completely new that I am willing to take a chance with. He has talked Conservative on all the most important issues. At the very least his nomination would show the liberal media, and the establishment Republicans they don't have the power they once had, and we make the decision, not them.
BTTT
Stop being reasonable. Stop it now. Conservatives don't look for solutions to problems. They whine.
You tell a touching story that many of us can share in. But you the wrong culprits for this. The heroes of your story are Greenspan, Bernanke and the system of rapid expansion of credit/debt that they have fostered.
Yes, Pat Buchanan has been right about everything but Israel, hasn’t he?
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