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ARG poll puts Gingrich up 27/20 over Romney in Iowa
Hotair ^ | 11/26/2011 | ED MORRISSEY

Posted on 11/26/2011 1:27:05 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: The_Reader_David

Has Ralph Nadar crawled out from under his rock yet?


41 posted on 11/26/2011 8:24:38 PM PST by I_be_tc
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To: Hawthorn
Looks as if the Iowa Evangelicals prefer a twice-divorced/three-times-married Catholic convert to a Mormon

Or maybe Iowan Evangelicals are really CHRISTIAN and don't presume to judge another on sins of many years ago when the man has admitted them, asked for forgiveness and has been practicing being a good Christian since.

MAYBE some Christians observe the 10 Commandments and don't presume to judge.

Some who call themselves Christians don't act Christian...ergo, have some self retrospection to attend to? . Altho' they many not have succumbed to the same 'sins' as Newt did - I rather suspicion they can't look in the mirror and say "I am sinless. I am pure"

"A clear conscience if usually the sign of a poor memory.

42 posted on 11/26/2011 8:47:16 PM PST by maine-iac7 (A prudent man foreseeth the evil,... but the simple pass on, and are punished. Prov 23:3 KJV)
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To: jpsb; All
I think after Tuesdays debate the polls are going to move away from Newt. We’ll see.

If the dedicated half-truthers have any thing to say about it - right?


43 posted on 11/26/2011 10:31:51 PM PST by maine-iac7 (A prudent man foreseeth the evil,... but the simple pass on, and are punished. Prov 23:3 KJV)
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To: 2007 Crusader; jpsb
AND move towards? You don’t have a clue.

True that. But he/she does have a passionate goal: Newt bashing - with half truths

44 posted on 11/26/2011 10:37:38 PM PST by maine-iac7 (A prudent man foreseeth the evil,... but the simple pass on, and are punished. Prov 23:3 KJV)
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To: writer33

There might be a sizable pro-divorcing your wife on her deathbed (I know, the tumor wasn’t cancerous, etc)

That was the sentence, which you took half of.

There was no debunking. She was in the hospital. FACT.
She was having a tumor removed. FACT. Newt went to the hospital and discussed the terms of the divorce while there.

The daughter is in no position to debunk something her mother said.


45 posted on 11/26/2011 11:00:39 PM PST by truthfreedom
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

Independents and women are a challenge, but given the actual history of Newt’s background, I think they will come around.

If Perry is going to make a surge, it had better be soon. If he could pull a monster debate performance out of the hat, then that would make people sit up and take notice. The story line would be: “Inexperience overcome.”

Cain is down right now, and I don’t see 999 becoming a hot topic again. He, too, will have a problem with independents and women. Also with pro-lifers. Like it or not, the allegations hurt him, so did the pro-choice comments, and so did the foreign policy gaffes. What does Cain have to do? He has to make himself believable again.

Santorum’s inability to get traction puzzles me. He’s a friendly man, a very bright and deep man, and a solid pro-life, pro-family candidate. He’s very articulate, knowledgeable, and determined. Can it be lack of money? If he’s going to make a bold move, the time is now.

Bachmann is another I don’t think is coming back, but what do I know. I believe she was stero-typed by the mental retardation thing, her repetitions about obamacare, lawyer, mother of 24, and her caustic attacks on other candidates. While she might injure those opponents, it doesn’t leave their former supporters with a pleasant taste about you in their mouths. I do not want to injure her ability to hold onto her seat in Congress.

Paul has a rabid, vocal following, and my fear is not a third party with Paul. I would fear just as much these paulistas turning in mass to the libertarian party. I do believe Rand Paul could abort that if he spoke out. Paul’s foreign policy comments doom him, but his following is large, and they will need a bone.

In my mind this is a Gingrich/Perry/Romney race right now, with Cain in the wings and Bachmann and Santorum on hold.


46 posted on 11/27/2011 3:06:53 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

Independents and women are a challenge, but given the actual history of Newt’s background, I think they will come around.

If Perry is going to make a surge, it had better be soon. If he could pull a monster debate performance out of the hat, then that would make people sit up and take notice. The story line would be: “Inexperience overcome.”

Cain is down right now, and I don’t see 999 becoming a hot topic again. He, too, will have a problem with independents and women. Also with pro-lifers. Like it or not, the allegations hurt him, so did the pro-choice comments, and so did the foreign policy gaffes. What does Cain have to do? He has to make himself believable again.

Santorum’s inability to get traction puzzles me. He’s a friendly man, a very bright and deep man, and a solid pro-life, pro-family candidate. He’s very articulate, knowledgeable, and determined. Can it be lack of money? If he’s going to make a bold move, the time is now.

Bachmann is another I don’t think is coming back, but what do I know. I believe she was stero-typed by the mental retardation thing, her repetitions about obamacare, lawyer, mother of 24, and her caustic attacks on other candidates. While she might injure those opponents, it doesn’t leave their former supporters with a pleasant taste about you in their mouths. I do not want to injure her ability to hold onto her seat in Congress.

Paul has a rabid, vocal following, and my fear is not a third party with Paul. I would fear just as much these paulistas turning in mass to the libertarian party. I do believe Rand Paul could abort that if he spoke out. Paul’s foreign policy comments doom him, but his following is large, and they will need a bone.

In my mind this is a Gingrich/Romney race right now, with Perry and Cain in the wings and Bachmann and Santorum on hold. Paul is there and his following is large enough for him to expect respect. I don’t know how to trade supporters, but if he can do that, then he might negotiate a cabinet position at the IRS. That would be fun, actually.


47 posted on 11/27/2011 3:14:11 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: bereanway

The ‘Blue Republicans’ who are really dems or socialists/marxists account for a portion of his ‘devotees’! They want him to bring about ‘world peace’!
Vote for Paul and you will end up with soetoro/obama for 4 more years.
How selfish/stupid can a voter be to vote in such way as to keep in power a usurper/dictator/anti-American/anti-constitution, divisive, hyprcritical liar who is hell-bent on destroying America?


48 posted on 11/27/2011 4:25:42 AM PST by chrisnj
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To: maine-iac7
"True that. But he/she does have a passionate goal"

Lol, I was a big supporter of Newt until Newt pulled this amnesty stuff for illegals. Sorry I just can't go there.

49 posted on 11/27/2011 6:13:31 AM PST by jpsb
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To: xzins
You think they'll come around? Not going to happen anymore than it did for McCain, and for even more polarizing reasons. Expect a daily barrage of negative Gingrich stories that will make the very unfair ones on Sarah Palin look tame in comparison.

It will work to gut his campaign. Newt already has tons of baggage that make him immensely disliked and such stories will just reinforce that. And what's worse, he's not even conservative. So why are we doing this when there's viable alternatives?

Totally agree with you on Santorum, he let us down with Specter but he's a still a good candidate who could sell nationally.

Latest rumor is Palin may get back in and at this point I would almost beg her to do it because I'm beginning to sense that some conservatives are once again falling for the McCain trap.

50 posted on 11/27/2011 7:29:37 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: truthfreedom
The daughter is in no position to debunk something her mother said.

FACT - the daughter did debunk the story. The divorce was discussed long before the alleged hospital falsehood. If there was a discussion there, it was one that continued after it was disclosed to the children. FACT

51 posted on 11/27/2011 11:02:51 AM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: writer33

FACT - the ex wife said something different.

The daughter can’t debunk something her mother said. Debunk is the wrong word. Disagrees with?

The daughter disagrees with what the mother said. I don’t care. I’m going with the old story. You can go with the “time to step up, dad is running for President” story if you want.


52 posted on 11/27/2011 8:40:29 PM PST by truthfreedom
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To: truthfreedom
The daughter disagrees with what the mother said. I don’t care. I’m going with the old story.

Good for you then. LOL!

53 posted on 11/27/2011 8:49:03 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: writer33

You for some reason would rather believe a daughter talking about it 30 years later who wants her dad to become President, rather than the woman who it happened to, discussing it 4 years after it happened.

It’s much more likely that the ex-wifes story is more likely than the daughters story.

But you’re a Newt supporter, because McCain was such a fine choice in 2008, and you’re taking the cover story.

Ridiculous.


54 posted on 11/28/2011 5:43:08 AM PST by truthfreedom
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To: truthfreedom
You for some reason would rather believe a daughter talking about it 30 years later who wants her dad to become President, rather than the woman who it happened to, discussing it 4 years after it happened.

And yet the woman it happened to has not come out to refute her daughter's version of the story. Now who's being ridiculous. LOL!

55 posted on 11/28/2011 6:29:42 AM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: writer33

Well, no one came forward for over 20 years to refute the first wifes version.

It’s clear that the daughter’s story is just made up to help her dad.

You’re ridiculous, LOL!


56 posted on 11/28/2011 5:00:48 PM PST by truthfreedom
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To: truthfreedom

I guess we could keep arguing about this for 20 years. That would be ridiculous. LOL!

Either way, the voters will make up their mind. Let’s hope that make the right choice and that doesn’t mean Newt because he’s up in the polls. It means they make the obvious, conservative choice.


57 posted on 11/28/2011 5:29:22 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: writer33

And since Newt isn’t conservative, it would be someone else.


58 posted on 11/28/2011 6:45:18 PM PST by truthfreedom
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To: truthfreedom
And since Newt isn’t conservative, it would be someone else.

Stop the presses. We agree. LOL!

59 posted on 11/28/2011 6:51:16 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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