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Cain: Wife didn't know about friendship, ‘financial assistance' to Ginger White
Union-Leader ^ | 12-1-2011 | John DiStaso

Posted on 12/01/2011 1:58:15 PM PST by smoothsailing

Cain: Wife didn't know about friendship, ‘financial assistance' to Ginger White


Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain is questioned by New Hampshire Union Leader publisher Joe McQuaid in Manchester Thursday. David Lane
MANCHESTER - In his most candid interview since the latest allegations emerged, Herman Cain adamantly maintains that he and Ginger White were no more than friends. He told the New Hampshire Union Leader that in about 70 text messages she sent him between Oct. 22 and Nov. 18, she was "asking for financial assistance. She was out of work and had trouble paying her bills and I had known her as a friend."
By JOHN DiSTASO
Senior Political Reporter
MANCHESTER - Herman Cain acknowledged Thursday that he repeatedly gave Ginger White money to help her with "month-to-month bills and expenses" without telling his wife.

In fact, the embattled presidential candidate said, his wife, Gloria, "did not know that we were friends until she (White) came out with this story."

In his most candid interview since the latest allegations emerged, Cain adamantly maintained that he and White were no more than friends.

He told the New Hampshire Union Leader that in about 70 text messages she sent him between Oct. 22 and Nov. 18, she was "asking for financial assistance. She was out of work and had trouble paying her bills and I had known her as a friend.

"She wasn't the only friend who I had helped in these tough economic times, and so her messages to me were relating to ‘need money for rent' or whatever the case may be. I don't remember all the specifics."

Cain said White, who has alleged that she and Cain had a 13-year extramarital affair, told him that she did not have a job and was unable to get financial help from her family, "and that quite frankly, I was the only person who was a friend at the time - and I underscore ‘friend' - that was in a position to help her.


"I'm a soft-hearted person when it comes to that stuff. I have helped members of my church. I have helped members of my family.


"And I know a lot of other people who had done the same thing, and sometimes, quite frankly, it was desperation," Cain said.


Cain said that in 17 reported text messages back to her, he would respond with messages such as, "What are you doing to get a job?"


Cain said he did give Ginger White money, although he would not say how much on the advice of counsel.


And, he acknowledged, "My wife did not know about it, and that was the revelation. My wife found out about it when she went public with it.


"My wife now knows," Cain said. "My wife and I have talked about it and I have explained it to her. My wife understands that I'm a soft-hearted giving person."


He said his wife "is comfortable with the explanation that I told her."


He said he told his wife about White only after White went public.


Cain said that in retrospect he should have told his wife about his friendship with White, "but retrospect doesn't necessarily change what's going on now."


He also said his wife "did not know we were friends until she (White) came out with this story."


He said White did not threaten to go public with the allegation of an affair if Cain did not give her money, "nor was there any indication that there might be blackmail or anything like that.


"I thought I was helping a friend, end of story," he said.


Cain said the two "struck up a friendship" many years ago when she attended a conference in Louisville, Ky., where he was the keynote speaker.


Cain said he does not know why White has gone public with the allegation.


"But I have very strong speculation that someone offered her a lot of money," Cain said. "I was helping her with month-to-month bills and expenses and somebody _ this is speculation only _ offered her a lot of money.


"And one of my objectives is to clear my name and my reputation," Cain said.


(This story will be updated throughout the evening.)


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: cain; cainaffair; cainswife; gingerwhite; gloriacain; hermancain
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1 posted on 12/01/2011 1:58:19 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

No good deed goes unpunished.


2 posted on 12/01/2011 2:00:06 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: smoothsailing
Rut roh.


3 posted on 12/01/2011 2:01:27 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: smoothsailing

Is he saying these were sins of the mind?


4 posted on 12/01/2011 2:03:28 PM PST by wolfcreek (Perry to Obama: Adios, MOFO!)
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To: smoothsailing

As to her motivation, that is an enormous duh. It offends me these people give interviews to do somebody else in, yet claim some ridiculous motive. And of course the “journalist” doesn’t bring up that the reason makes no sense.


5 posted on 12/01/2011 2:03:58 PM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: smoothsailing

And Cain did not realize this was going to come out? What a joke. Donezo.


6 posted on 12/01/2011 2:04:15 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: SatinDoll
“No good deed goes unpunished.”

If the “good deed” involves helping another woman financially without the knowledge of one’s wife, then the good deed will certainly be punished (by the wife) once it becomes public.

7 posted on 12/01/2011 2:04:43 PM PST by riverdawg
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To: smoothsailing

Didn’t tell his wife. This gets worse and worse for the campaign.


8 posted on 12/01/2011 2:04:53 PM PST by Truth29
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To: smoothsailing
Cain said that in retrospect he should have told his wife about his friendship with White, "but retrospect doesn't necessarily change what's going on now."

He also said his wife "did not know we were friends until she (White) came out with this story."


Busted. I don't care how "innocent" the situation is. If your wife ain't in the loop on something like this....
 
 


9 posted on 12/01/2011 2:04:53 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: smoothsailing

Hey, where’s the crime here? :-)


10 posted on 12/01/2011 2:05:17 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: smoothsailing

Glad it wasn’t tax payers’ money or campaign contributions.

I believe him; although he was naive - especially being so generous to a cretin like Ginger Bread. Over a period of 13-14 years he should have had her figured out as a parasite.


11 posted on 12/01/2011 2:06:09 PM PST by sodpoodle ( Newter the Democrats - top to bottom.)
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To: SatinDoll

I have no problem with HC’s story. I assume if there was an affair of some kind and she was travelling on and off with him, she would be able to produce some kind of evidence. To date she has not.

But it doesn’t speak well for HC’s judgment, IMO, if he’s a married man and giving another woman money and his wife doesn’t know a thing about it.


12 posted on 12/01/2011 2:06:38 PM PST by ktupper
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To: smoothsailing

There's alot of things we're not going to tell Mrs. Howell about...

13 posted on 12/01/2011 2:07:17 PM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: Responsibility2nd

Where’s the crime?


14 posted on 12/01/2011 2:07:40 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: smoothsailing

If his wife didn’t know about it, then I think that is bad. He’s running for president and doing this?


15 posted on 12/01/2011 2:08:22 PM PST by Politics4US
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To: wolfcreek

Sorry, but Cain has to go. Sex is only a by-product of dishonesty in a marital relationship. In most cases, emotional infidelity has occurred for quite some time before a sexual relationship occurs. If he was supporting another woman financially and emotionally without telling his wife, then he was being very dishonest with her and should not be supported by anyone who respects the sanctity of marriage. If his intentions were entirely honourable, then it’s something he would have proudly shared with his wife. Cain may not have had sex with this woman, but she was giving him something (emotional support? praise? self-esteem) which she had no right to give and he had no right to receive. This is Cain’s “bridge too far”.


16 posted on 12/01/2011 2:08:26 PM PST by littleharbour
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To: smoothsailing

Herman Cain acknowledged Thursday that he repeatedly gave Ginger White money to help her with “month-to-month bills and expenses” without telling his wife. In fact, the embattled presidential candidate said, his wife, Gloria, “did not know that we were friends until she (White) came out with this story.”

Wasn’t the REAL tip off that Gloria wasn’t out in front of a bank of microphones in two minutes telling the world this woman was full of crap? that Herm knew her for years?


17 posted on 12/01/2011 2:08:33 PM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: SatinDoll

Good deed? Please - Cain is a playa.


18 posted on 12/01/2011 2:09:15 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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This is not a good fact of the situation, but it still could be as Cain says, innocent.

If the woman claims more and it isn’t true, she is slandering (libeling?) Cain. I think he has to sic Lin Wood on her, and I don’t mean lightly.

IMHO, this is necessary if Cain wishes to continue as a serious candidate.


19 posted on 12/01/2011 2:09:23 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: smoothsailing
"In his most candid interview since the latest allegations emerged..."

Get over yourselves, Union Leader...do you believe your own hype?

20 posted on 12/01/2011 2:09:23 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: smoothsailing

Very, very foolish on his part.

This will sink him. (Actually, he’s already sunk.)


21 posted on 12/01/2011 2:09:23 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: smoothsailing

Hmmmmmmmmmmm

In Its a Wonderful Life the Conservative hero George Bailey gave a girl sho was down on her luck and “out of work and had trouble paying her bills” and helped her leave town for a fresh start elsewhere..

and he was considered a nice guy for doing that...

But that was the 40s..

and George wasnt running for office...


22 posted on 12/01/2011 2:09:43 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: GlockThe Vote

Where’s the crime, Mac Daddy?


23 posted on 12/01/2011 2:10:03 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: smoothsailing

I no longer believe him... at least in this case. You don’t hide the friendship + financial assistance from your wife unless there is more to it.


24 posted on 12/01/2011 2:10:27 PM PST by wolfman23601
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To: smoothsailing

But wait, this can’t be.

Heck, over the past 2 days, several of the Cain’s FR people have been insisting she knew... so all was well.

I am sooo confused.


25 posted on 12/01/2011 2:11:03 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. Newt/Palin-West-2012."got a lot swirling around in my head.")
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To: smoothsailing

That’s not OK. I don’t care what his intentions were, spouses are supposed to share this kind of information. It reflects badly upon Mr. Cain.

Doesn’t disqualify him from being president in my opinion, but it does reflect poorly on him.


26 posted on 12/01/2011 2:11:49 PM PST by mockingbyrd
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To: Gator113

Where’s the crime?


27 posted on 12/01/2011 2:11:49 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: GlockThe Vote
Jeez Lahwheeze! Listening to the Cain interview with Cavuto yesterday was Cain trying to get the patent on Denial.

This guy is completely finished. No doubts.

28 posted on 12/01/2011 2:12:29 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: ktupper

I assume if there was an affair of some kind and she was travelling on and off with him, she would be able to produce some kind of evidence. To date she has not.


Evidence? Like what? It could easily have been the occasional hookup, where he paid for everything (no receipts) and all she really has is dates and the like. Or she was just a “companion” he liked to hang out with more than his wife. Either are easily understood and explain why his wife had no knowledge of it.

Regardless, Cain’s other glaring political faults are the source of his demise...this just sheds a few social conservatives.


29 posted on 12/01/2011 2:12:51 PM PST by magritte
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To: Responsibility2nd
Not telling his wife amounts to "a lie"....13 years of "lies".

Even the idea that he needs his wife's approval to go on is an absurdity. She didn't know. He deceived her...and he wants her blessing?? He'll be lucky if he gets bread with his supper. He can always buy a pizza for $9.99.

30 posted on 12/01/2011 2:12:51 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: writer33

Had cain told his wife of this, what do you think her reaction would have been?


31 posted on 12/01/2011 2:13:04 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: writer33

Had cain told his wife of this, what do you think her reaction would have been?


32 posted on 12/01/2011 2:13:32 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: smoothsailing
At best he's a moron.
I was holding out hope for him; assuming he was a good hearted guy helping a down on their luck person. But of course his wife would be looped in in that scenario. A man doesn't hang with, and give money to a woman on a long term basis.

Any amount of common sense would know that would look bad; unless the mans wife was looped in.

33 posted on 12/01/2011 2:14:08 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: wolfman23601

“I no longer believe him... at least in this case. You don’t hide the friendship + financial assistance from your wife unless there is more to it.”

He’s an associate Pastor. He’s not going to be helping someone and not praying for them (with his wife). The fact that the wife knew nothing of her is the “smoking gun”.

We’ve been duped by Cain.

Time to dump him and move on.


34 posted on 12/01/2011 2:14:14 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: smoothsailing

Rule #1 in marriage: If you think your wife would get mad hearing it from somebody else, TELL HER YOURSELF. Happy Wife, Happy Life.

My thoughts are that Cain’s either 1)foolish, 2)lying, or 3)naive. None of these choices gives me warm fuzzies about voting for him.


35 posted on 12/01/2011 2:14:45 PM PST by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: writer33

Where’s the crime?

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Ask your wife.


36 posted on 12/01/2011 2:15:17 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: wolfman23601

Du, du, du, du,.....du, du,....Can’t Touch Dis!.......


37 posted on 12/01/2011 2:15:32 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: riverdawg

If the “good deed” involves helping another woman financially without the knowledge of one’s wife,
____________________________________________________

Herman Cain is a multi millionaire

If he gave a person in need a $20 or even a $100 I doubt if he would miss it or think he had to report it to Momma...

Mrs Cain probably gives money here and there to good causes to that Herman doesnt demand to know about..

Its called trust...

He knows Gloria wont give money to Planned Parenthood behind his back..

She trusts him to not be sponsoring “girlfriends”


38 posted on 12/01/2011 2:15:44 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: smoothsailing
"He told the New Hampshire Union Leader that in about 70 text messages she sent him between Oct. 22 and Nov. 18, she was "asking for financial assistance."

This was a set up. That woman set him up so they could take him down

39 posted on 12/01/2011 2:15:54 PM PST by GloriaJane (Pro Choice = Pro Death - Pro Life = Pro LIFE!)
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To: D-fendr
It's not innocent. He's been deceiving his wife for 13 years.

He signed two books for Ginger. One says "Friendships are forever. Everything else is a bonus".

40 posted on 12/01/2011 2:15:54 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: writer33

Well, it may not be a crime but it sure does show a lack of good sense to keep this kind of friendship with a much younger woman from the little wife.


41 posted on 12/01/2011 2:16:05 PM PST by CajunConservative ( Leadership. It is defined by action, not position.)
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To: wolfman23601

Oh Dear - I just gave a certain candidate some money, and didn’t tell my husband. I also wrote an encouraging note on a petition for him.

Have I been emotionally unfaithful? Too intimate? I’d better not send any more, or else I will be betraying my marriage vows.


42 posted on 12/01/2011 2:16:41 PM PST by jacquej
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To: riverdawg

If the “good deed” involves helping another woman financially without the knowledge of one’s wife,
____________________________________________________

Plus the man is humble

Im sure he doesnt have a press conference every time he gives someone some help...


43 posted on 12/01/2011 2:17:04 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: littleharbour
My sentiments exactly.

If your wife can't trust you, why should the voters?

44 posted on 12/01/2011 2:17:30 PM PST by wolfcreek (Perry to Obama: Adios, MOFO!)
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To: ktupper

I think we view his actions through our eyes.

In our world, giving someone say $500 for rent is a big deal. If we gave $10 for a fundraiser at work, we may not tell our wives. To Cain, perhaps $500 is like $10 is to us.

It would help his case, if he said “over the last X years, I’ve given $y to this many people”


45 posted on 12/01/2011 2:18:30 PM PST by Barney Gumble (A liberal is someone too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel - Robert Frost)
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To: GlockThe Vote

“Had cain told his wife of this, what do you think her reaction would have been?”

Probably, “Ditch that bitch” LONG before 13 years passed. He didn’t give her the opportunity to support or argue the issue, which says little for his marital communication.


46 posted on 12/01/2011 2:18:30 PM PST by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: Responsibility2nd

Give me a break. A man in Cain’s position couldn’t possibly tell his wife every person he’s befriended. This is getting ridiculous. I guess I am from the old school, like Cain. Your wife is your wife. If you are doing nothing wrong and have nothing to be ashamed of why in the world do you need to “clear” your behavior with your wife. He’s a grown man with a solid and trusting relationship with his life partner. To him, a good Christian man,I bet he regretted getting sucked into the world of this loser and was just trying to manage it as best he could without telling her to get lost.


47 posted on 12/01/2011 2:18:38 PM PST by mick (Central Banker Capitalism is NOT Free Enterprise)
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To: smoothsailing

If I was giving any non-family woman I knew financial help, my wife would know all about it. I’d be discussing it with her. Why not tell the wife about it if it’s on the up and up?

It strikes me odd. Not everyone operates like me but I think my viewpoint on it is pretty much the norm.


48 posted on 12/01/2011 2:18:52 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: wolfcreek

“My sentiments exactly.

If your wife can’t trust you, why should the voters?”

“Mr Gingrich, please pick up two of the white courtesy phones...”


49 posted on 12/01/2011 2:20:37 PM PST by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: smoothsailing

>> Herman Cain acknowledged Thursday that he repeatedly gave Ginger White money to help her with “month-to-month bills and expenses” without telling his wife.

“Just Friends”. Hyeah... right.

Tell you what, Mrs. Tick would have Tick Junior stuffed, mounted, and hanging on her (formerly our) mantel if I pulled *that* trick on her. No way would she fall for that “friends” stuff, especially if I kept it a secret from her.

We’ll see what Mrs. Cain is made of.


50 posted on 12/01/2011 2:21:32 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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