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1 posted on 12/04/2011 8:43:33 AM PST by BarnacleCenturion
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“I will have difficulty supporting him for president of the United States.”

Wow, Newt must have really pi$$ long and hard on his Wheaties!

Coburn feels the same way about Newt as I (and many other conservatives) feel about Romney.

2 posted on 12/04/2011 8:49:05 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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....”Gingrich is going to need to convince people he has changed. Conservatives must be ready to forgive him his sins. And as conservatives come to terms with Gingrich’s sins, they are going to be confronted by a man named Tom Coburn who wrote a book called Breach of Trust and a man named Robert Novak who wrote the foreword to that book. One excerpt will be particularly troubling to conservative activists currently enamored with Newt’s debating skills.


Gingrich either felt that he could not use his office to control spending or was not willing to lose his office to control spending. This goes to the heart of the matter: If your decisions are based on not losing a position, you cannot effectively serve the best long-term interests of the country.

Sen. Tom A. Coburn M.D.; John Hart. Breach of Trust: How Washington Turns Outsiders Into Insiders (Kindle Locations 1283-1285). Kindle Edition.


If Newt can withstand the rehashing of Tom Coburn’s book — a book that portrays Gingrich as talking the talk, but betraying the talk once in office — we may have our anti-Romney. If not, I think Rick Perry may yet have a second coming if he is ready. I say that having asked many callers to my radio show who are Cain supporters where they would go. Most say Newt. The others Perry. And if Newt implodes? They almost always say they’d go to Perry — Romney is rarely their choice.

Some excerpts from Breach of Trust below the fold.


Coburn made his presence felt immediately. It became clear to him that Speaker Gingrich, House Majority Leader Armey and the rest of the Republican leadership were not what they pretended to be. They were revolutionaries in name only, content to take possession from the Democrats of the machinery of government and then run it virtually unchanged. That froze in place the system of pork barrel spending that young Woodrow Wilson described in Congressional Government more than 130 years ago.”

Sen. Tom A. Coburn M.D.;John Hart. Breach of Trust: How Washington Turns Outsiders Into Insiders (Kindle Locations 55-58). Kindle Edition.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2813969/posts


3 posted on 12/04/2011 8:50:44 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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How the hell did we get into a situation with two flip flopping creeps as front runners?


4 posted on 12/04/2011 8:52:59 AM PST by montag813
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Coburn is sour grapes.

Newt undoubtedly told the firebrand nuc em all congressman coburn to simmer down. The fact that newt didn’t conform to coburn’s precise bomb delivery plan is now said to be a lack of leadership.


6 posted on 12/04/2011 8:58:07 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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I know well another person who served as a Conservative in the House with Newt. He says the same things about Newt; that he can become a loose canon and that he is considered unorganized and unpredictable; a solo player. I have heard the same things from insider Senate staff who also work with conservatives.

I think we will be hearing a LOT more of this anti-Newt talk from the R’s...

As the scrutiny goes deeper than his obvious well-spoken and knowledgeable persona, I think his stock will fall.


8 posted on 12/04/2011 9:01:16 AM PST by JustTheTruth
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Coburn endorsed Alan Keyes in the 2000 Republican presidential primaries.

‘Nuff said.


9 posted on 12/04/2011 9:01:45 AM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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I know well another person who served as a Conservative in the House with Newt. He says the same things about Newt; that he can become a loose canon and that he is considered unorganized and unpredictable; a solo player. I have heard the same things from insider Senate staff who also work with conservatives.

I think we will be hearing a LOT more of this anti-Newt talk from the R’s...

As the scrutiny goes deeper than his obvious well-spoken and knowledgeable persona, I think his stock will fall.


10 posted on 12/04/2011 9:02:13 AM PST by JustTheTruth
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This Tom Coburn?
11 posted on 12/04/2011 9:06:23 AM PST by jimbo123
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Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK), was scored by the Washington Post on the percentage of votes on which a lawmaker agrees with the position taken by a majority of his or her party members. The scores do not include missed votes. Their summary:
Voted with Republican Party 82.8% of 290 votes.


12 posted on 12/04/2011 9:06:56 AM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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The real crux is we have a field of flawed candidates and folks take turns further beating them down. At this rate we won’t have anyone left standing who is deemed pure enough for the position. It looks like I need to go back to considering my toaster for the position....


15 posted on 12/04/2011 9:10:52 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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PRESS ADVISORY

January 28, 2000

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Contact: Connie Hair
Phone: 818-512-3432

Coburn Endorses Keyes for President

MANCHESTER, N.H. - U.S. Rep. Tom A. Coburn (R-OK) today endorsed Ambassador Alan Keyes for the Republican nomination for President, calling him “the one candidate for President who actually understands what is wrong with our country and who has the vision, the courage, and the clarity of principle to put it right.”

Coburn is a practicing physician who has earned a reputation as a leading budget hawk during his three terms in Congress.

Coburn declared that “Keyes has shown repeatedly that he has a better grasp on the issues...than any other candidate.” But Coburn decided to announce his support for Keyes not on the basis of any specific issue, but because of Keyes’s “recognition that national leadership in our day is not about policies and not about political solutions to political problems. It is a matter of moral leadership to address a moral crisis.”

Comparing Keyes to Abraham Lincoln, the Oklahoma Congressman declared that “Alan Keyes has the capacity to ignite among us another rebirth of freedom.”

“Some people tell me Alan Keyes has little chance to be elected President,” acknowledged Coburn. “But my heart and my conscience tell me that Alan Keyes is the man who should be President. And to my way of thinking, doing right means doing what your heart and your conscience tell you.”

Coburn is the first Member of Congress to endorse Keyes for President. Dr. Coburn’s prepared statement is reprinted below:

“It is clear to me that Alan Keyes is the one candidate for president who actually understands what is wrong with our country and who has the vision, the courage, and the clarity of principle to put it right.

Ambassador Keyes has shown repeatedly that he has a better grasp on the issues – the foreign policy, the fiscal policy, the social policy and all the rest of it – than any other candidate. But choosing a president is not a scholarship contest. The mere fact that he knows more about the issues than any other candidate is not what qualifies Mr. Keyes to be our President.

The real difference Alan Keyes brings to this campaign is his recognition that national leadership in our day is not about policies and not about political solutions to political problems. It is a matter of moral leadership to address a moral crisis.

Alan Keyes is the one man who has come forward to pose the proper question: what are we doing with the liberty that has been bequeathed to us by God through the sacrifices of our forebears, and what should we be doing with it?

Like Abraham Lincoln, Alan Keyes has the capacity to ignite among us another rebirth of freedom. He will bring us together as a nation by reminding us of what it is that makes us one nation. Alan Keyes will be a great President because the Presidency is not merely a matter of issues and policies but of moral leadership.

Some people tell me Alan Keyes has little chance to be elected. My heart and my conscience tell me Alan Keyes is the man who should be President. And to my way of thinking, doing right means doing what your heart and your conscience tell you, not what someone else tells you.

That is why I am proud to announce my endorsement of Alan Keyes for President of the United States.”

Paid for and authorized by Keyes 2000.


16 posted on 12/04/2011 9:13:38 AM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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Coburn is known to have a warm personal relationship with President Obama.

That explains it.

21 posted on 12/04/2011 9:21:59 AM PST by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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Humm let’s see just WHERE IS the “Colburn Government Reduction Act of ANY YEAR”??? Bueller, Bueller, Bueller...! This guy(Colburn) runs his mouth alot but produces NOT MUCH!


29 posted on 12/04/2011 9:46:22 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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Everyone knows Newt’s sins. If they support him, its for two reasons. They remember the glee with which he used to beat the snot out of Clinton back when he was implementing his “Contract for America” and the way Clinton was forced to back down time and time again and then claim credit for what Gingrich forced him to sign.

And they see his obvious willingness to fight when he’s on the debate stage, and his command of detail, and his ability to run rings around his opponents.

They will have to forgive the fact that, once Clinton had the goods on him, he went weak in the knees during impeachment. They’ll have to forgive his support for Scozzafava, when he was being (as he often is) too clever for his own good. They’ll have to forgive his acceptance of Global Warming as settled issue (though as I recall his approach was to try and show that the free market was the solution to this non-problem). They’ll have to forgive his faithlessness as a husband; the fact that he didn’t lie under oath about it doesn’t buy him much credit. We know his enemies will make a lot of hay about him going after Clinton when he was having his own affair.

This guy has a lot of baggage and he has disappointed a lot of people. But what I wouldn’t give to see him running rings around Obama on the debate stage.

I have said any number of times that my favorite four were Bachmann, Santorum, Cain, and Newt in no particular order. Cain has imploded, Bachmann and Santorum are getting stronger all the time, and I like them more and more as they go along. Newt? He’s always going to be problematic. But I have to say I love it when he steps up to the podium and opens up another broadside against the Obamists; no one does it as well as he does.


32 posted on 12/04/2011 9:52:25 AM PST by marron
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Back then, Coburn was pretty conservative, so he likely knows what he is talking about. Now, Coburn is as bad as Newt, unfortunately. He needs to be replaced, and Newt needs to be sent back home to his latest wife.


35 posted on 12/04/2011 9:56:32 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Back then, Coburn was pretty conservative, so he likely knows what he is talking about. Now, Coburn is as bad as Newt, unfortunately. He needs to be replaced, and Newt needs to be sent back home to his latest wife.


36 posted on 12/04/2011 9:56:43 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Back then, Coburn was pretty conservative, so he likely knows what he is talking about. Now, Coburn is as bad as Newt, unfortunately. He needs to be replaced, and Newt needs to be sent back home to his latest wife.


37 posted on 12/04/2011 9:56:50 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Tom Coburn is from the DeMint wing of the party (or as DeMint once phrased it, the other way around).......if it still has serious concerns, I will listen to him.

Coburn has built up enough credibility as a real conservative to be worthy of listening to, and he did it, not by words or speeches or interviews, but by deeds.

40 posted on 12/04/2011 10:06:49 AM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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The issue here isn’t Newt’s Conservatism, but rather his leadership capability.

When the GOP retook the House after the 1994 election, it was pretty clear that Newt was the idea/vision guy ... but it was really Armey who was running the place on a day-to-day basis.

Newt’s the guy you want in the basement coming up with policy papers, and I have concerns that his deliberative and professorial decision and policy-making approach won’t be a good match to the demands of the Presidency.

If it comes down to Newt vs. Romney it’ll be a mirror image of the Dems in 2008 where Obama was the ideological visionary and Hillary! was the pragmatic leader.


47 posted on 12/04/2011 10:21:35 AM PST by tanknetter
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52 posted on 12/04/2011 10:36:39 AM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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