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Documents: ATF used "Fast and Furious" to make the case for gun regulations
CBS News ^ | Dec 7, 2011 | Sharyl Attkisson

Posted on 12/08/2011 3:43:53 AM PST by Toadman

Documents obtained by CBS News show that the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) discussed using their covert operation "Fast and Furious" to argue for controversial new rules about gun sales.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; obama
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During a congressional hearing, I remember a Senator or Congressman (I can't remember), postulating that the Obama administration was intentionally moving guns to Mexico to justify more legislation controlling firearms.

I was listening to Rush and he played the sound bite. I'll see if I can locate the text in Rush's archives.

Oh, and notice the ATF uses the term "DEMAND Letter 3" with regards to implementing more control.

I may go fishing with my firearms this weekend... wonder what the weather will be like.

1 posted on 12/08/2011 3:43:54 AM PST by Toadman
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; ...

In case you missed it ping.


2 posted on 12/08/2011 3:47:20 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Toadman

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2817610/posts?page=5#5


3 posted on 12/08/2011 3:49:30 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Toadman

This reporter has been trying to make her case for a while but has basically been hushed by CBS. I see all the other major media is running with the story now./s


4 posted on 12/08/2011 4:00:52 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Toadman
"...ATF used "Fast and Furious" to make the case for gun regulations..."

If even CBS can see the link....
Like the old addage: "just because your're paranoid doesn't mean there isn't a conspiracy afoot....

5 posted on 12/08/2011 4:01:57 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Toadman

Praying it is all exposed in the hearing with Holder today..........


6 posted on 12/08/2011 4:08:12 AM PST by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: Toadman

Officials in this government committed an Act of War against another country (supplying weapons to insurgents/cartels) in an attempt to manipulate the press and public opinion in order to restrict freedoms in this country.

They should be tried for treason in this country before being shipped to Mexico to be tried as enemy combatants.

But of course, nothing at all will happen to them because we are way past being a nation where the rule of law has any meaning whatsoever.


7 posted on 12/08/2011 4:16:53 AM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: spodefly

Change that to “illegal enemy combatants.” That way the Mexicans can hang them.


8 posted on 12/08/2011 4:26:03 AM PST by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Toadman
Q: How many murdered Mexicans does it take to justify confiscating all Americans' firearms?
A: As many as Barack Obama and the Democrat Party need.

This is a 100% evil administration. Not stupid, not misguided. Evil.

Mr. niteowl77

9 posted on 12/08/2011 4:35:23 AM PST by niteowl77
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To: MestaMachine

F&F just wasn’t “under the radar” far enough.


10 posted on 12/08/2011 5:21:46 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: spodefly
Officials in this government committed an Act of War against another country

Not just another country, but one that we're (nominally) friendly with.

11 posted on 12/08/2011 5:29:08 AM PST by kevkrom (Separation of Business and State)
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To: Toadman

The ****** ******* **** ******* bastards are in our sights.

Pray that they don’t put up a distraction for our ADHD traitor media. At the end of the day, they still need viewers. If this is the only juicy story, someone will run with it.


12 posted on 12/08/2011 5:30:59 AM PST by varyouga
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To: Toadman
their covert operation "Fast and Furious" to argue for controversial new rules about gun sales.

We knew this from day one. It was way too obvious what the oboma administration was doing. Only a fool wouldn't have seen the motive behind this move.

13 posted on 12/08/2011 5:35:56 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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Well, we knew what “Fast and Furious/Gunwalker” was all about.
Recall the Obama admin claiming that he guns in Mexico were coming from Mom and Pop firearms retailers.
This was the aim all along.


14 posted on 12/08/2011 5:38:08 AM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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Recall the Obama admin claiming that he guns in Mexico were coming from Mom and Pop firearms retailers. This was the aim all along.

Yep. Those killed by these guns were to be considered collateral damage for the cause. The more dead people, the better it was for Oboma and his disarming agenda.
The oboma administration has declared war on America. He's armed it's enemies with the "hope" Americans would be killed.

15 posted on 12/08/2011 5:49:18 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: varyouga
The ****** ******* **** ******* bastards are in our sights.

The progressive Modus Operandi.....

Manufacture a crises.
Wait for the people to cry out for relief.
Blame the opponent for the problem.
Come in with a "new" (socialist/communist) way, because the "old" (liberty/free market) way "didn't work".

For example - the left created the current economic decline via subsidized mortgages. They waited for people to lose everything. People panicked. They blamed the banks. Now, we need a "new" form of economy - a communist (nationalized) economy, because the "old" way, capitalism, didn't work!

They did the same thing with health care. Their trial lawyers made it unaffordable. Again, the people cried out for relief. Presto! We now have a "new" way.

16 posted on 12/08/2011 5:58:04 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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Nice that CBS finally noticed this after five months. As seen on FreeRepublic back in mid-July:

Gunwalker: Smoking Gun Email?
Pajamas Media ^ | July 13, 2011 | Patrick Richardson

17 posted on 12/08/2011 6:01:27 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Toadman

“Documents obtained by CBS News show that the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) discussed using their covert operation “Fast and Furious” to argue for controversial new rules about gun sales.”

Ya think?


18 posted on 12/08/2011 6:43:00 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: concerned about politics

Precisely.
If anyone needed a better example of why socialism/communism etc are evil, they just need to lok at the blatant disregard fro life in pursuit of ‘the cause’.


19 posted on 12/08/2011 7:06:01 AM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee

We’ve been saying this from day one... literally from day one.


20 posted on 12/08/2011 8:24:07 AM PST by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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