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New York City sues roll-your-own-smokes shops (NYC taxes - $5.85 a pack)
Washington Times ^ | 11/21/11 | David B. Caruso

Posted on 12/10/2011 6:15:59 PM PST by Libloather

New York City sues roll-your-own-smokes shops
Sees tax evasion in do-it-yourself business
By David B. Caruso - Associated Press
Monday, November 21, 2011

NEW YORK — There is no place in the U.S. more expensive to smoke than New York City, where the taxes alone will set you back $5.85 per pack.

Yet smokers who visit Island Smokes, a “roll-your-own” cigarette shop in Chinatown, can walk out with an entire 10-pack carton for less than $40, thanks to a tax loophole that officials in several states are trying to close.

The store is one of a number around the country that have come under fire over their use of high-speed cigarette-rolling machines that function as miniature factories and can package loose tobacco and rolling papers into neatly formed cigarettes, sometimes in just a few minutes.

Customers select a blend of tobacco leaves, feed the tobacco and some paper tubes into the machines, and return to the counter with the finished product to ring up the purchase.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bantobacco; newyork; newyorkcity; nyc; shops; smoke; taxedenoughalready; taxes
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To: Libloather
Legal product made legally. They can't stand that.

Cigarettes are a "suicide machine". Suicide is illegal. Is it really a legal product? Rest In Peace, Dad. I wish you hadn't been a smoker.

21 posted on 12/10/2011 9:11:34 PM PST by rivercat (Typed on my OSX-free MBP! Windows 7 (SP1) FTW!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


22 posted on 12/10/2011 9:11:43 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Gabz

Just before I quit wmoking cigs, I started to roll my own. The machines that take filters are pretty good, and I could get very high quality leaf with no additives in both Maryland and VA for about 40% of the cost of the pre-rolled silage most cigarette companies use. The difference in flavor is worth the extra trouble.


23 posted on 12/10/2011 9:15:40 PM PST by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: Sky Slug

Authoritarianism and gubmint social engineering slays ends in epic failure in the central planners attempt to control millions of the unwashed masses.

He thinks he is smarter than a million people combined. NY anti smoking policies should be renamed the NO CIGARETTE BOOTLEGGER LEFT BEHIND ACT.


24 posted on 12/10/2011 10:14:13 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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To: RC one

They don’t want to kill it just collect outrageous taxes on it....bast*rds.....


25 posted on 12/11/2011 12:58:50 AM PST by goat granny (.)
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To: rivercat
Maybe death for some, I have been smoking for over 1/2 century and am doing fine..I think genetics has a big role in developing cancer...for my family, cancers of the GI track are common in relatives and my father, his brother and his father....Dad smoked until he turned 50 and developed asthma...but lived to be 86 and never developed lung cancer. But had colon cancer, that didn't kill him either, the blood work before surgery was hinky and they finally got a diagnosis of acute Leukemia and that prognosis was 10 days to 6 weeks. No chemo, at his age would probably kill him. He came to my home and died 10 days from diagnosis...7 days at my home before he passed...My sister is 80 and has been smoking since she was 15. Not even a breathing problem.....I don't believe all the propoganda about cigarettes...Back in the 40's they were called cancer sticks and coffin nails, any of those that sued cause the companies lied is just hearing ch ching to deep pockets...

If they are suicide machines, it sure takes a long time to kill you according to my family...

26 posted on 12/11/2011 1:11:20 AM PST by goat granny (.)
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To: rivercat

I am sorry about your fathers death. May he rest in peace and you find peace in his passing......GG


27 posted on 12/11/2011 1:13:33 AM PST by goat granny (.)
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To: Godebert

Back when I was a twenty year old sailor and stupid enough to smoke I bought cigarettes for one dollar a CARTON on the Saratoga when we were at sea. In Barcelona we could go ashore and have a blast on three or four dollars. My pay was a princely one hundred and eighty two dollars monthly back then. I was wealthy.


28 posted on 12/11/2011 6:27:11 AM PST by RipSawyer (This does not end well!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Unbelievable.


29 posted on 12/11/2011 2:26:55 PM PST by Mears (Alcohol. Tobacco. Firearms. What's not to like?)
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To: rivercat

Suicide is illegal?

What’s the penalty——death?


30 posted on 12/11/2011 2:32:54 PM PST by Mears (Alcohol. Tobacco. Firearms. What's not to like?)
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To: goat granny

60 year smoker here,goat granny.

I certainly don’t plan on quitting now.


31 posted on 12/11/2011 2:36:18 PM PST by Mears (Alcohol. Tobacco. Firearms. What's not to like?)
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To: Libloather

Statist thugs


32 posted on 12/11/2011 2:37:21 PM PST by Gene Eric (Save a pretzel for the gas jets.)
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To: RipSawyer
:O) you served on the Sinking Sarah, my son serves on the USS zippo The Forrestal/sp
33 posted on 12/11/2011 5:24:32 PM PST by goat granny (.)
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To: Libloather

God forbid Westerners, should be able to smoke in peace as they’ve done for centuries.I believe the Persian and their culture of control and taxation,which the liberals absolutely love,were the ones who started executing people for smoking publicly by pouring molten lead down their throat.

It is a cultural vice that mostly doesn’t harm that many lives, at the end of the day Liberals and their brand of stupidity which again smacks of Oriental despotism(in the name of the greater or public good) is far far worse.


34 posted on 12/11/2011 7:20:10 PM PST by Del Rapier
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To: Mears

Believe it, dude. The nanny state stops at nothing these days...


35 posted on 12/11/2011 8:36:36 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: Libloather

Actually, I don’t give a rip if people want to smoke, however I do get upset at smokers that feel it’s their right to litter their butts all over the place. I once asked a lady to pick up her butt, after she flicked it on the ground, and both she and her young son flipped me off and told me to mind my own business.


36 posted on 12/11/2011 10:00:51 PM PST by rivercat (Typed on my OSX-free MBP! Windows 7 (SP1) FTW!)
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To: peggybac

A couple of years ago before she left the governorship, Granholm and the democrats gave Michigan a lovely present...Raised the cost of loose cigarette tobacco 25 dollars a pound...Don’t democrats know greed is an ugly thing and they are full of it....


37 posted on 12/12/2011 11:16:47 AM PST by goat granny (.)
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To: goat granny

These idiots don’t want smokers to quit - they fill the coffers. It’s amazing how these nitwits will increase taxes the way they do so folks will quit and their tills will dry up.


38 posted on 12/12/2011 6:39:58 PM PST by peggybac
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To: peggybac

typical of leftist democrats...kill the goose that lays the golden egg....GG


39 posted on 12/12/2011 6:48:53 PM PST by goat granny (.)
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To: goat granny

Exactly.


40 posted on 12/12/2011 8:50:36 PM PST by peggybac
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