Beam me to Planet Gore !
Posted on 12/11/2011 10:26:57 AM PST by Nachum
Durban - A new deal to "save the planet" will force the world's three biggest emitters the US, China and India to cut carbon emissions for the first time, although scientists fear it will come too late to stop global warming. More than 190 countries managed to finally agree a new climate change deal amid chaotic scenes in the early hours of Sunday morning in Durban, South Africa. (Snip) In the end the wording was decided in an extraordinary 10 minute 'huddle' between the exhausted ministers to decide the fate of future generations.
(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...
It’s not yet any (proposed) treaty at all, it’s merely a joint declaration to continue working toward a post-Kyoto treaty.
Considering that USA-China-India have never been foolish enough to accept Kyoto-style reductions in emissions, and that there’s no reason to expect them to agree in coming years, this is all mere posturing for the fanatical greens to pretend the dream is still alive.
Granted they still have far far too much influence and propaganda around, but their dream of a post-Kyoto treaty has collapsed along with the CAGW scam.
This is total BS. Yesterday AP wrote:
“A U.N. climate conference reached a hard-fought agreement Sunday on a far-reaching program meant to set a new course for the global fight against climate change.
The 194-party conference agreed to start negotiations on a new accord that would ensure that countries will be legally bound to carry out any pledges they make. It would take effect by 2020 at the latest.
The deal doesn’t explicitly compel any nation to take on emissions targets, although most emerging economies have volunteered to curb the growth of their emissions.”
In other words, a hard-fought, far-reaching accord to start negotiations on something to take effect in 2020 and won’t compel emissions targets! Only cost tens of millions of dollars for these useless eaters to meet in the fun and sun to arrive at this momentous “agreement”! AND they can keep on meeting until at least 2020!
Utter and total failure. Absolutely laughable that the media is reporting this as a success. Just chalk that up to another addition to their syntheti alternate reality.
Yes, I agree with your take. Also, I just read this blog post which provides quite an interesting description of how the ‘BASIC’ nations thwarted the CAGW fanatics:
“The BASIC Truth About Durban”
Sunday, 11 December 2011 17:05 Philip Stott
The basic truth about Durban, the latest and 17th Feydeau farce passing as serious UN climate talks, is simple: the BASIC countries - Brazil, South Africa, India, and China - played a blinder.
They outwitted comprehensively the ever-zealous, naive, and hypocritical EU to ensure that they achieved their fundamental goals, which were to delay any agreement on a replacement for the failing Kyoto Protocol until at least 2015, and any actual action to cut emissions until at least 2020. And, of course, by then, the plate tectonics of world politics may have altered even more radically, so that further delays will be eminently possible, or the global warming narrative - we can only hope - will have withered away permanently into perennial greenhouse history....
http://thegwpf.org/opinion-pros-a-cons/4532-philip-stott-the-basic-truth-about-durban.html
Oh please.
Sadly, the modern obsession with CO2 started when Margaret Thatcher wanted to break a coal strike in the early 19080s. An old idea that CO2 raised atmospheric temps was dusted off and put into motion by the BBC. There’s nothing to the theory, of course, but the damage is done now.
Oh what a tangled web we weave...
Probably just the indication we need that the global warming movement is collapsing.
It’s an alibi for the vanishing of thousands of more jobs — into Africa and rural Asia.
did China and India agree to cut emissions or, like that other time, get exempted??
Shhhh, don`t tell the gaia tree hugging marxists farmers LOVE these things:
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http://www.johnsongas.com/industrial/CO2Gen.asp
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China wants developed countries to continue the charade as China is the primary supplier of wind turbines and solar panels as well as providing the rare earth minerals. China is no fool. The idiot and zealot is in the White House.
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That is a good point. The uninformed/uneducated/mentally slow/abnormally low IQ/average democrat would indeed make that mistake.
The problem with that logic is that to create the CO2 by burning fossil carbon we are using up oxygen. Either way, whether we create more CO2 or we don't, we will have plenty of oxygen.
Just as the Kyoto Protocol was not approved by the U.S. Senate, so this will not be approved.
And anyone who thinks China and India are going to abide by this new agreement are really living in a fantasy world.
I’ve had it with these moronic, unelected, international climate thieves. Just who the hell so they think they are? I’m burning three old truck tires now in celebration of their stupidity. Black soot offered up to their beloved Gia. I spit on them.
I’ve had it with these moronic, unelected, international climate thieves. Just who the hell so they think they are? I’m burning three old truck tires now in celebration of their stupidity. Black soot offered up to their beloved Gia. I spit on them.
We have been emitting over the last century larger amounts of CO2 and also been carrying out large scale deforestation. So the percentage of CO2 has gone up. Even tiny variations can have catastrophic impacts.
At the Durban climate exchange US-China-India have only agreed to a voluntary carbon emission reduction target as opposed to a binding target. Which means US-China-India will set their own targets and they will be monitored and held accountable to achieve that target. Only Europe has agreed to a binding carbon emission target.
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