Posted on 12/28/2011 11:40:14 AM PST by Kaslin
Attack dogs have finally been unleashed on Ron Paul. Those barking dogs caused Andrew Sullivan to Re-Think The Paul Endorsement
Time Magazine even launched a headline Paul Walks Away
No Need to Rethink Endorsement
There is no need to rethink endorsements. Here is the deal: Ron Paul did not say the things attributed to him. He denies them, disavows them, and most importantly, his voting record proves it!
Can anyone honestly tell me why things Ron Paul did NOT say over twenty years ago should be news today?
Paul Missed Best Tactic
How many times does he have to deny he wrote those things? Still, Ron Paul did not handle the CNN setup in the best possible manner.
This is what Paul said to CNN.
“Why don’t you go back and look at what I said yesterday on CNN and what I’ve said for 20 something years. 22 years ago? I didn’t write them, I disavow them."
That answer was perfectly fine, as far as it went. Then Paul walked out. It was a missed opportunity.
Proposed Follow-Up
Rather than walking out, Paul should have followed up with ...
"I'm not here to discuss imaginary topics or things I never said. Now, do you want to discuss my position on the economy, on the Fed, and on spending, or is your only point to this interview to discuss things I did not say 20 years ago and have explained to CNN countless times?"
That would have smashed the ball down CNN interviewer Gloria Borger's throat, right where it belonged.
OK. Admittedly, Ron Paul did not respond in the perfect manner. So Ron Paul is human. Who isn't?
Is a transgression 22 years ago of something Ron Paul never said, and whose track record in congress proves it, any reason to drop support of Ron Paul?
In favor of who? Flip-flopper Newt Gingrich? Mitt Romney, the man that practically wrote the Obama Health-Care legislation? The Mitt Romney who wants to starts a trade war with China? Another Republican candidate that has no chance of winning?
If case you are a misguided Mitt Romney fan please consider President Obama and Mitt Romney are Nearly One and the Same!
Anyone "rethinking" their Ron Paul endorsement based on things Paul never said is not thinking clearly.
Attack Dog Plus Side
Here's the plus side to the attack dogs: Ron Paul is now considered a serious candidate or the attack dogs would not have been unleashed on things he never said 22 years ago.
Interestingly, The State Column reports Ron Paul still holds a lead in Iowa.
Thus, a majority of voters have decided that 22-year-old never-made statements are irrelevant, even if some misguided souls can't.
His foreign policy viza viz the Mid-East in particular (but also elsewhere) is dangerously short-sighted. The fact is, fundamental Islam has been at war with us for many, many years. They have attacked and killed our citizens and soldiers...long before 911. They did so in a spectacular fashion on 911 and we had a President in office who responded appropriately...getting authorization and approval from Congress (which IMHO passes constitutional muster) and took the fight to them.
Bush did it in a brilliant manner, taking on two enemies directly while completely isolating the third, larger enemy in Iran, having surrounded them on three sides (Iraq, Afghanistan, and the Arabian Sea). If Bush he had stayed in power...which he couldn't...or if we had elected someone with the same vision, then when the liberty bug and massive demonstrations occurred in Iran last year, he would have taken advantage of it and Iran would have fallen...with our help.
We should in fact avoid foreign entanglements as Paul states. but I define entannglements as things such as the UN and other involvements that are clouded and not in our best interest. OTOH, we should embrace treaties and economic agreements with friends and allies that enhance our interests.
If we were true to that, and to the true Free Market...and the principles that undergird it (like the same principles that undergird our constitution), we would be fine.
Anyhow, Paul adopting this posture that we are to blame for the Islamic attacks (we aren't) and that if we treat them better and allow them to have nukes they will then make nice with us...is, as I say, dangeroulsy misguided, even if his monetary and budgetary leanings are spot on.
Finally, I am not satisfied with how he answered the question about his newsletters. They went out under his name. By extension they are his views. He either knew what was going in there and tacitly approved of it...or he was complacant to the point of being foolish as others used his newsletter as a platform to make those very wong-headed remarks. He cannot have it both ways.
He should disavow them...but he should also admit that he was negligent in his oversite of the newsletter. Without that, we are really left to wonder whether he really did mostly go along with them, or question his ability to manage what his own news-releases and press might say.
Keep your head low. You Morons are becoming endangered species here and I need my entertainment.
The guy is a complete nut case. All the preceding lists of compliments on Earth won't reverse the fact that he is dangerous to our National Security.
I’m desperately seeking a Constitutional candidate. Ron Paul is NOT the one I am looking for.
It’s becoming obvious, those who support Paul are Liberals and radical, pot smoking idiots who formerly belonged to the Ralph Nader cult.
I believe he’s 76. He is unhinged, however.
My, how little you understand of Libertarianism!
“I’m desperately seeking a Constitutional candidate. Ron Paul is NOT the one I am looking for.”
Then, you’re out of luck - unless you want to vote for Gary Johnson.
No, to say that Libertarians are along the same line of thinking and functioning as Conservatives are, clearly demonstrates how little YOU understand about Liberalterianism.
“Do we have to keep giving him so much attention?”
In my humble opinion YES!
One thing he has never done is to endorse T”he Third Way” concept of blending Communism with Capitolism as Newt has.
That truly makes someone a “nut” and also renders them unfit to hold elected office.
[One thing he has never done is to endorse T”he Third Way” concept of blending Communism with Capitolism as Newt has.]
Typical Paultard. We understand you can't spell Capitalism, but when you call Newt a Nationalist Socialist without providing proof to support your claim, you lose all credibility.
But don't bother, we already know that you will never be able to provide any such evidence, because none has ever existed.
Thank you. I have been saying this for weeks and even changed my tagline because of it.
Well, that's a magnificent lie.
What exactly did Paul say or write that is so horrible? Did he call someone the dreaded n-word or some other racial slur? Did he make a comment about fried chicken and watermelon? Did he make fun of someone's physical appearance? Has anyone produced the actual in context quotes of the vile, racist things Paul said or it all hearsay?
This thread will show how well the MSM and RNC propaganda machines work. Yuri was correct.
OWS may be a fairly disparate group, but given that it was organized by Leftists angry at everybody but the real culprits, namely the Federal Government, the Federal Reserve, and Corporate Socialists, their overarching theme seems to be that they want more goodies (free goods and services) extorted from productive people and transferred to them via the government.
Libertarians don’t want the government taking anything away from anybody other than what is needed to fund its legitimate Constitutional duties. (And those are precious few.)
Yes, we are willing to pay the costs of freedom. I missed the part about how invading Iraq protects our freedoms.
I would also like to see the things from Paul’s newsletter that are being discussed. I watched them misquote Newt over and over last month and would believe they are misquoting Paul. Perhaps someone who knows where to find them will post a link...
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