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To: thouworm; MestaMachine; LucyT
I was a SEAL officer and was in many joint and combined operational planning meetings etc. This is called a "NEO" operation, for Non-combatant Evacuation Operation. Every embassy and consulate has and practices all kinds of emergency evac plans, in concert with the US military. For example, Marines and SEALs practice NEO ops prior to deploying on a float, as a VERY high priority mission. They involve full dress rehearsals, with "civilian" role players, helos, landing craft, rounding up stranded stragglers, fighting your way to LZs while protecting a gaggle of civilians down to babies etc. Conducting successful NEO ops is a TOP TOP TOP military and state dept. mission priority.

When the alarm goes worldwide that an embassy or consulate is being attacked, the entire U.S. military swings into rescue mode, without waiting for any orders from the White House. The military does all of the operational planning and begins to execute the rescue op.

The one thing they CAN'T do is cross an international border without permission from POTUS. So the US Military will be inbound full-steam-ahead to make the rescue, and all they need from POTUS is a "proceed" order. In this case, they got a "stand down" instead.

This is at the POTUS level, it is not a decision taken at State. State and the military (JCS) should be in the Situation Room with POTUS soon after a critical incident like this begins, so all decisions can be made in real time. (I have heard nowhere that POTUS went into the Situation Room. Oval office briefly, but not down to the Situation Room, where the "war planning" screens and commo tools are all located.)

But if POTUS punts after the brief Oval Office meeting with Dempsey and Hillary and goes upstairs to the family quarters....the stranded Americans will die.

Only POTUS can give the order to cross international borders. Only POTUS can allow US warplanes to give air support to Americans battling on the ground in a foreign country. If POTUS makes himself unavailable, the Americans will die.

Even the VEEP or Sec State cannot make that call. The VEEP can only do it if the POTUS is determined to be medically unable to perform his functions. If the POTUS goes upstairs and turns off his phone, there is nothing anybody can do about it. Nothing.


951 posted on 10/27/2012 5:59:06 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Thank you, Matt. I knew this but somehow seeing it in black and white straight up made my blood run cold. I also know that this will not stand and it will not pass by. I watched a friend who appeared on Fox yesterday and he was speaking through gritted teeth. The anger is palpable. The need for righteous justice is too high. And that is all I have to say about that.


953 posted on 10/27/2012 8:05:33 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and none dare call it treason)
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To: Travis McGee; MestaMachine; KC_Lion; Godzilla; Domestic Church; dragonblustar; Oorang; jersey117; ..
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. . . . # 951 is important.

Also see # 952 ... and # 955.

Thanks, Travis McGee.

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956 posted on 10/27/2012 9:59:33 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: Travis McGee; MestaMachine; Jeff Head; reluctantwarrior; LucyT
The President said this yesterday.

“I can tell you, as I’ve said over the last couple of months since this happened, the minute I found out what was happening, I gave three very clear directives. Number one, make sure that we are securing our personnel and doing whatever we need to.

So if the caller to Rush's show yesterday, whom is pinged here, and you are correct then this statement would indicate that the military should have proceeded. Reports are that they did nothing, why? And whom is responsible? Rhetorical of course.

ref: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2950692/posts?page=89#89

But if you look at his whole quote, as I pointed out in at the referenced post, he is speaking in past tense meaning the minute he found out was on the 12th?

962 posted on 10/27/2012 11:09:15 AM PDT by GregNH (If you are unable to fight, please find a good place to hide.)
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To: Travis McGee; LucyT

Thank you, sir.

(thanks for the ping, LucyT)

BTTT!


969 posted on 10/27/2012 2:43:43 PM PDT by PGalt
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