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Anti-Romney ads on Bain Capital: Whose is toughest?
The Christian Science Monitor ^ | Jan. 9, 2012 | Peter Grier

Posted on 01/11/2012 7:43:12 AM PST by Comrade Brother Abu Bubba

Negative ads are rolling out about Mitt Romney's tenure at Bain Capital, trying to paint him as the sort of privileged money guy who created the financial meltdown.

opponents are lining up to attack him over his time as head of Bain Capital, in case you haven’t heard. They’re going to accuse him of bankrupting companies, throwing people out of work, and generally behaving like Gordon Gekko, the amoral Michael Douglas character from the flick “Wall Street.” "Greed is good"

“If he ends up looking more like an opportunist who profited for the few, instead of a man who created jobs for the many, it’s hard to imagine his poll numbers won’t drop,” write Politico’s Reid Epstein and Jim VandeHei.

(Excerpt) Read more at csmonitor.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: baincapital; romney
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To: Thane_Banquo

Most REAL venture capital firms finance entrepreneurs who are starting brand-new companies, or are expanding them in subsequent rounds prior to entering the public market or being acquired by a larger firm. VC firms, for example, helped build the biotech, Internet, and software industries. I am highly supportive of real VC firms.

Leveraged buyout firms, and corporate raiders like Carl Icahn, are something else entirely. When they call themselves “VC firms”, they are just obfuscating what they really are. I do not support them at all.

Bain Capital, as I said before, started out as a real VC firm, and then morphed into a LBO firm. So they—and Romney—can obfuscate even better than most LBO firms!!!


21 posted on 01/11/2012 8:06:49 AM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Daveinyork

Romney practiced Crony Capitalism, the kind that privatizes gains while socializing the losses.


22 posted on 01/11/2012 8:06:56 AM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Comrade Brother Abu Bubba; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; ..
RE :”opponents are lining up to attack him over his time as head of Bain Capital, in case you haven’t heard. They’re going to accuse him of bankrupting companies, throwing people out of work, and generally behaving like Gordon Gekko, the amoral Michael Douglas character from the flick “Wall Street.” “Greed is good” “If he ends up looking more like an opportunist who profited for the few, instead of a man who created jobs for the many, it’s hard to imagine his poll numbers won’t drop,” write Politico’s Reid Epstein and Jim VandeHei.

Will these Democrat OWS type points (’Greed’,’Getting rich’ ) resonate with Republican primary voters or will they backfire? It seems to me that the specific points made on this sound just like what anyone can hear on MSNBC very-night. I hope the other candidates don't start bragging that they are part of the other 99%ers

Alternatively since Romney is bragging about creating jobs in the private sector any job destruction he was involved with is relevant to this debate.

23 posted on 01/11/2012 8:07:10 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
"""Romney used Bain to raid workers pension funds then stuck the government (US taxpayers) with the bill. If criticism of that is anti-capitalist then I guess I am not a capitalist.""

Are we the only two that see that? Yet they will criticize Newt for EARNING a fee? Talk about double standards.

Go Newt

24 posted on 01/11/2012 8:07:29 AM PST by annieokie
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To: Comrade Brother Abu Bubba

A conservative would need to split hairs to side with Romney on this one issue. Why do so when that is the only history of Romney that they can agree with him about?

Especially considering Romney is looking to stick a knife in all our backs.

To Hell with Romney and the horse he rode in on!


25 posted on 01/11/2012 8:07:32 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: sickoflibs

Sarah Palin herself railed against the very kind of Crony Capitalism that Bain exemplified.


26 posted on 01/11/2012 8:08:30 AM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Sudetenland

so you think raiding compainies pension plans and sticking the US taxpayers with the bill is a good thing?


27 posted on 01/11/2012 8:08:47 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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To: RoosterRedux
Doesn't matter. It did far more good than harm--though that's beside the point.

I believe in liberty. I believe in freedom. I believe in opportunity. I believe in capitalism and the right of people to do as they will with it as long as it is within the law. I love that people make profits off of dying businesses. I believe that businesses must fail if they are weak so that others may thrive.

I do not believe it is good or honorable to attack those who practice free enterprise solely for political gain.

Time to stop behaving like spoiled children and start acting as adults. Mitt sucks, but he is not evil, he is not dangerous, and he is not worse than Obama.
28 posted on 01/11/2012 8:10:09 AM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: magritte
Mitt Romney is not now nor ever has been a Conservative or a Capitalist. He is at best a Country Club, Rockefeller Republican who is a Crony Capitalist and Corporatist. He has a long history of reeking ruin on formerly successful companies that had over funded pension and benefit plans and assets that outpaced their earnings. He did a great deal of corporate destruction for personal gain and sought and received millions in Federal financed loans, aid, and bail outs.

He time and again used foreign money to take over small and medium sized private and public companies with the sole interest in breaking up them and pocketing the spoils. He left many workers unemployed and often stuck the Federal Government (IE: You & Me) to pay the pensions and benefits of former workers. None of it was illegal, but much of it was distasteful.

He is a failed Governor who although elected as a Republican was lead by the uber leftist state house and passed dozens of tax increases and leftest policies including the most expensive and radical medical plan in the history of the United States. He is a consistent Pro-Abortionist Republican that appointed dozens of far left judges and approved tax payer money to pay for abortion services. He not only consistently supported abortion services, he also PERSONALY donated to Planned Parenthood as recently as only five years ago. HE GAVE HIS OWN MONEY TO PLANNED PARENTHOOD.

The idea that an true Conservative or even Moderate Republican would cast a vote for this loser is unbelievable.

He may be inevitable, but he is the least electable in the field, including the geriatric nut job, Ron Paul. I fear that if he garners the nomination he will not only lose but splinter the Republican Party.

29 posted on 01/11/2012 8:10:49 AM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: dfwgator
RE :"Sarah Palin herself railed against the very kind of Crony Capitalism that Bain exemplified.

Who??

30 posted on 01/11/2012 8:11:10 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: Sudetenland

I get that people don’t like or want Romney to win the nomination. I get it - I really do. But some of the hatred is so over the top. Worse than the libs’ BDS and PDS. I’m in the Perry camp through SC, though I’m disappointed in his attack on venture capitalism. After that, I’m on the ABO bandwagon. Perry is pro life, pro God, pro guns, pro country - served his country, created jobs in Texas. When he first jumped in I thought he was the ideal candidate - still he wasn’t good enough and the other candidates tore him down on day one. So now we’re stuck with Romney. Perry supporters said this would happen.


31 posted on 01/11/2012 8:14:08 AM PST by jersey117 (.)
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To: Comrade Brother Abu Bubba

I would urge EVERYONE (especially you Romney supporters AND those that have gone off the deep end thinking that Newt is attacking Capitalism) to watch the video at the bottom of this page:
http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/01/selling-out-capitalism-in-the-defense-of-romney-and-bain/

This is ONLY ONE of the troublesome Bain issues that MUST be vetted NOW. If we don’t do it now, you know that it will ALL come out later!


32 posted on 01/11/2012 8:15:24 AM PST by georgiagirl_pam
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To: dfwgator

How did he socialize the losses?


33 posted on 01/11/2012 8:15:40 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: georgiagirl_pam

Forgot to say, watch for the question at the end from Mark Halprin.


34 posted on 01/11/2012 8:16:25 AM PST by georgiagirl_pam
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To: Honorary Serb

Agreed. There is such a thing as true venture capital, and it is based on the whole in financing needs for small-to-medium sized businesses that are not yet prepared to go public. I guess I should use the term private equity firms instead, because there used to be a distinction.


35 posted on 01/11/2012 8:17:38 AM PST by Thane_Banquo
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To: Jim from C-Town

Attacking Bain Capital is a ridiculous angle to take on Romney. He’s got PLENTY of bad points, but the Pitchfork Pat anti-capitalism populist baloney is going to kill us. Even my guy Perry jumped on it, and I sent his campaign a strong worded “What a stupid attack” email.


36 posted on 01/11/2012 8:19:18 AM PST by magritte
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To: Sudetenland; Timaeus
Please see post 21. I used the venture capital term loosely, based on its common usage today. There is a difference between true venture capital and LBO private equity, though today the private equity guys market themselves as the same as venture capital. Romney wasn't a true venture capital guy in the real sense of providing mezzanine financing for small-to-medium size, high-growth firms that were not yet ready to go public. That kind of service is very valuable in financial markets. Romney was the kind of guy who took advantage of government intrusion in the form of Alan Greenspan.
37 posted on 01/11/2012 8:21:10 AM PST by Thane_Banquo
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To: Daveinyork
How did he socialize the losses?

When taxpayers picked up the tab for the underfunded pensions.

38 posted on 01/11/2012 8:22:45 AM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: jersey117

Yep, we sure did. Perry’s stumbles in the debate, and the endless attacks by other conservatives who had their own worshiped candidate took him from being the one real conservative opponent who would have crushed Mitt, to a peripheral soon to be out of it candidate and assured Mitt’s ascension.


39 posted on 01/11/2012 8:23:16 AM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: Thane_Banquo

You’re wasting your time. This forum has been infiltrated by a bunch a sheep who don’t have five minutes to read or listen to the facts. They assume what they want to assume.

Romney has much to explain. For example, what exactly was he doing in France? Shouldn’t we ask? How many Catholics did he convert to the Mormon faith?

The idea that he was this great jobs producer like Sam Walton is a joke.

In one paragraph you size up exactly what needs to come out. These vulture capitalists raided these companies, drew as much money as they could from pensions and borrowing... then putting them for sale on the stock exchange...where they cashed in again...only to let the company declare bankruptcy...in the end.

Who wins? Bain not the workers.

Sorry, I ain’t buying this. Romney is not the man.

PS-Why isn’t Romney showing his tax returns?


40 posted on 01/11/2012 8:28:23 AM PST by nikos1121
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