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Marijuana doesn't harm lung function, study found
Boston.com ^ | January 11, 2012 | Lindsey Tanner

Posted on 01/11/2012 9:29:52 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost

CHICAGO—Smoking a joint once a week or a bit more apparently doesn't harm the lungs, suggests a 20-year study that bolsters evidence that marijuana doesn't do the kind of damage tobacco does.

The results, from one of the largest and longest studies on the health effects of marijuana, are hazier for heavy users -- those who smoke two or more joints daily for several years. The data suggest that using marijuana that often might cause a decline in lung function, but there weren't enough heavy users among the 5,000 young adults in the study to draw firm conclusions.

Still, the authors recommended "caution and moderation when marijuana use is considered."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: drugs; weed; wod; wodlist; wosd
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To: Blue Ink
I don’t want to live in the kind of crap, third-world country that tolerates prostitution and heroin usage

Prostitution is legal in Nevada - is that a "crap, third-world" location? Opiates were legal in the USA until about 100 years ago - was the USA before that a "crap, third-world country"?

And it’s not your government that’s telling you what to — it’s your fellow citizens.

The Founding Fathers opposed tyranny of the majority: "When a majority is included in a faction, the form of popular government, on the other hand, enables it to sacrifice to its ruling passion or interest both the public good and the rights of other citizens." - Federalist #10

141 posted on 01/11/2012 1:47:19 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

I have yet to hear about some guy who came home and beat his wife after smoking Pot.


142 posted on 01/11/2012 1:49:40 PM PST by Afronaut (It's 1984)
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To: Lazlo in PA
All the people who supported Prohibition are the ones who about faced and called for repeal after the whole thing blew up in their faces with crime.

And yet you're hell-bent on continuing Prohibition II . . .

Man.

143 posted on 01/11/2012 1:52:12 PM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Lazlo in PA
BTW, I don't smoke pot - nor drink the lethal addictive drug alcohol.

Why don't you find a joint and familiarize yourself with the product

Where did I say I'd never smoked pot?

before jumping on the pot bandwagon. If you think drinking is "lethal addictive"

It's an easily observed fact. Do you really need proof?

and pot is fine

Where did I say that?

Because that's the conservative position - just like legalizing alcohol and ending Prohibition was the conservative position.

That is a canard. All the people who supported Prohibition are the ones who about faced and called for repeal after the whole thing blew up in their faces with crime. If you are not aware, FDR used repeal as a campaign issue in '32 and it was a Rat campaign plank. Some Conservative that FDR was.

So if some liberals agree with the conservative position, it's no longer conservative? I guess since 0bama wears pants I'd better stop wearing them.

144 posted on 01/11/2012 1:52:38 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: Afronaut
I have yet to hear about some guy who came home and beat his wife after smoking Pot.

There's a dirty joke in there somewhere just dying to get out.

145 posted on 01/11/2012 1:55:20 PM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
The available evidence...

Provided by the Federales who always have our best interests at heart.

146 posted on 01/11/2012 2:00:30 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazlo in PA
Provided by the Federales

I gave you their results and their methodology. Feel free to point out any flaws. Also feel free to produce any contradictory evidence.

Then explain why the same Federales who shouldn't be trusted to do sound research should be trusted to conduct a War On Drugs.

147 posted on 01/11/2012 2:04:39 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: Blue Ink; Hemingway's Ghost; JustSayNoToNannies
What you libertarians fail to understand is that your individual choices affect me, because you’re not an island. I don’t want to live in the kind of crap, third-world country that tolerates prostitution and heroin usage, because I know what sort of society results. For the same reason, I want to keep pot out.

And it’s not your government that’s telling you what to — it’s your fellow citizens. When pot legalization was put on the ballot here in California last time around, it failed.

So stop screaming about “the government” — the people of this country don’t want that noxious, evil weed legalized. Except you. And you only get one vote
 
 
That is so good - it deserves a repost in bold font.
 

What you libertarians fail to understand is that your individual choices affect me, because you’re not an island. I don’t want to live in the kind of crap, third-world country that tolerates prostitution and heroin usage, because I know what sort of society results. For the same reason, I want to keep pot out.

And it’s not your government that’s telling you what to — it’s your fellow citizens. When pot legalization was put on the ballot here in California last time around, it failed.

So stop screaming about “the government” — the people of this country don’t want that noxious, evil weed legalized. Except you. And you only get one vote

 

 

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Blue Ink - in case you didn't already know - you are arguing with two of the biggest lib hypocrites here at FR. While they themselves say they don't use these dangerous drugs, they are perfectly OK with others using them.
 
Kinda like welfare fraud. Or abortion. While they personally oppose it - they are OK with others taking part in these societal fuster-clucks.
 
That is morally evil. And yet they hate our SoCon values and attack us even on a conservative stie.
 
Ahh Well.


148 posted on 01/11/2012 2:05:18 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
It's an easily observed fact.

Aw geez. I thought we needed to back all our arguments with Gov't studies and not "observed" facts.

149 posted on 01/11/2012 2:06:11 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: cripplecreek
My brother-in-law is an oncologist and he once viewed the x-ray of a 40 year old pot smoker. According to him, the guy's lungs looked like a 65 year old lifetime smoker.

With that being said, there is no reason for the government and all their studies to find anything wrong with marijuana since it's such a fledgling industry. Once it reaches billion dollar status as the tobacco industry did, then watch the lawsuits and subsequent tax extortion to pour in..........

150 posted on 01/11/2012 2:11:33 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Naugahyde is no longer available due to the Naugas being hunted to extinction.....)
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To: Lazlo in PA
'The conservative concern with constitutionalism and the defense of local self-government which Stayton first articulated thus remained at the heart of the new antiprohibition movement in 1919 and 1920, as support increased and the organization defined its position. [...]

'These two conservative Republicans shared opinions as to the flaws of national prohibition. Murphy told a congressional committee that World War I had accustomed him to rigid, centralized government and that therefore, at the outset, he had fully expected the liquor ban to succeed. He joined Stayton's organization after concluding that the Eighteenth Amendment was "absolutely contrary to the spirit of the rest of the Constitution" and that it led to further contrary acts by the government, such as wiretapping, bribery, and the careless shooting of innocent people by prohibition agents. Respect for the Constitution had been "materially weakened." Furthermore, said Murphy, prohibition produced much crime and furnished the underworld with a large, steady income. Finally, the law interfered with established social customs and deprived the state of an opportunity to regulate the flow of liquor. Cassatt believed, as well, that prohibition was out of place in the Constitution. It seemed to him also that prohibition was leading to infringement of hitherto constitutionally protected personal rights. As did Murphy, he felt the United States too large and the customs too varied for one national law governing personal habits. Neither man liked instability, and both came to regard prohibition as a dangerous unsettling influence on government and society.'

- Repealing National Prohibition, by David Kyvig, Copyright 1979 by the University of Chicago

151 posted on 01/11/2012 2:15:50 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: SampleMan
I wonder what OSHA says about a job that requires breating non-tobacco smoke

Not even OSHA could determine that second hand smoke was even a hazard

152 posted on 01/11/2012 2:17:31 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Naugahyde is no longer available due to the Naugas being hunted to extinction.....)
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To: Hot Tabasco

I don’t care what people do to themselves as long as it doesn’t impact the rest of us. I just don’t like being lied to about it.


153 posted on 01/11/2012 2:18:09 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
That is so good - it

has already been rebutted in posts 139 and 141.

While they themselves say they don't use these dangerous drugs, they are perfectly OK with others using them.

Kinda like welfare fraud. Or abortion.

No, nothing like those rights-violating acts.

While they personally oppose it - they are OK with others taking part in these societal fuster-clucks.

That I am "OK with others taking part in these" is a baseless lie. THAT is morally evil.

And yet they hate our SoCon values and attack us

Have a hankie. It's your stupid arguments I've attacked.

154 posted on 01/11/2012 2:23:04 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: Lazlo in PA
Provided by the Federales who always have our best interests at heart.

Feds are committed to keeping marijuana illegal. This study, valid or not, is the equivalent of the star witness for the prosecution testifying in support of the defense.

155 posted on 01/11/2012 2:27:34 PM PST by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: Lazlo in PA
If you think drinking is "lethal addictive"

It's an easily observed fact. Do you really need proof?

I thought we needed to back all our arguments

Proof (you should try offering some sometime):

http://www.niaaa.nih.gov/FAQs/General-English/Pages/default.aspx#whatis

http://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/arh27-1/110-120.htm

156 posted on 01/11/2012 2:29:32 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

And heroin is good for you also.
Just keep writing those checks stupid!!


157 posted on 01/11/2012 2:35:10 PM PST by TsonicTsunami08
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To: TsonicTsunami08
And heroin is good for you also.

No, like many legal products it's bad for you.

Just keep writing those checks stupid!!

I'd love to stop writing checks for the failed drug war.

158 posted on 01/11/2012 2:37:53 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

“I could make a logical argument that simply by drawing a breath my actions affect others.”

No, you can’t. Absurdum ad reductio.

The middle ground between Tyranny (which you suggest I’m advocating) and Anarchy (which is what you’re advocating) is called How We’ve Done It in the United States for 200-odd years. And that’s really what I’m advocating.


159 posted on 01/11/2012 3:01:15 PM PST by Blue Ink
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To: Blue Ink
How We’ve Done It in the United States for 200-odd years.

For most of those 200+ years there were no federal drug laws.

160 posted on 01/11/2012 3:06:23 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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