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Rep. Allen West on the reaction to the Marines incident: “Shut your mouth; war is hell”
Hotair ^ | 01/13/2012 | Tina Korbe

Posted on 01/14/2012 6:41:26 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Candidly, the story of a handful of Marines videotaping themselves urinating on dead Taliban fighters is a subject I’ve feared to broach because it is heart-breaking to think those men so lost their sense of shared humanity — if only for those minutes — as to do what they did. Rep. Allen West has given me a way to write about it, though, by saying it all better than I ever could. In an e-mail to The Weekly Standard, West wrote:

I have sat back and assessed the incident with the video of our Marines urinating on Taliban corpses. I do not recall any self-righteous indignation when our Delta snipers Shugart and Gordon had their bodies dragged through Mogadishu. Neither do I recall media outrage and condemnation of our Blackwater security contractors being killed, their bodies burned, and hung from a bridge in Fallujah.

All these over-emotional pundits and armchair quarterbacks need to chill. Does anyone remember the two Soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division who were beheaded and gutted in Iraq?

The Marines were wrong. Give them a maximum punishment under field grade level Article 15 (non-judicial punishment), place a General Officer level letter of reprimand in their personnel file, and have them in full dress uniform stand before their Battalion, each personally apologize to God, Country, and Corps videotaped and conclude by singing the full US Marine Corps Hymn without a teleprompter.

As for everyone else, unless you have been shot at by the Taliban, shut your mouth, war is hell.

Without excusing the vulgar, distasteful, disgraceful (insert your adjective here) desecration committed by the Marines themselves, West reminds us that civilians can never fully understand the magnitude of the sacrifices they ask men and women to make on their behalf.

Words of support for the troops are needed now as always, but they’re hardly forthcoming. The Republican presidential candidates, for example, have made no statements of support for the predominantly well-behaved troops as a buttress against the effects on public opinion of the administration’s eager denouncement of the few. William Kristol highlights their silence:

Give me a break. More importantly, give our troops a break. Yes, the Marines who appear to have done what they did should be reprimanded or punished, as they would have been in the normal course of things once their deed came to light. I will even grant that some higher-ups might have felt it prudent to deplore what happened, based on realpolitik considerations of depriving our enemies of excuses to whip up sentiment against us in the region (though I’m doubtful the effort to do this isn’t more counterproductive than not). But the administration’s reaction is over the top. And it smells of cheap self-righteousness and moral posturing from an administration that, to be honest, hasn’t devoted a whole lot of time to thanking our troops for what they’ve been doing in very difficult and dangerous circumstances.

Maybe it was too much to expect senior officials to make the common sense points that 1) this incident is not something to get hysterical about, and 2) it needs to be put in the context of the admirable behavior of 99 percent of our troops 99 percent of the time. But aren’t there Republicans around who might want to make this point? I gather, for example, that there are several people running for the Republican presidential nomination. Maybe one of them could say a good word about our troops?

Those who do dare to speak up are promptly attacked for it. Big Journalism’s Dana Loesch describes the backlash she’s received for a few statements she made on her radio program yesterday to the effect that the reaction to the incident has been overblown:

This is nothing but an exercise in situational, exploitative outrage, and it completely proved the point I was making. The phrases “defile” and “desecration” popped up in my replies on Twitter every minute or so. If “desecration” is a concern for progressives, where was their outrage when the remains of over 200 Air Force members were dumped in a landfill? I’ve seen more outrage towards our troops over this incident than I have ever seen towards the Taliban themselves who’ve beheaded soldiers (American and Afghan), raped and tortured women, sent out suicide bombers, and carried out horrific attacks.

The disproportionate anger on the part of progressives is fueled by their dislike of our military. That['s] what this proves. The left is attacking me so they can give the Obama administration a pass–unlike what they did with Bush and Abu Ghraib. Like it or not, I’ll stand up for our troops no matter which president is in charge.

The situation has never called for histrionics, but it has always called for a sober recognition that the reality of war is unfathomable to those who’ve never experienced it, and it is up to us, who remain in comfort while others fight our battles, to sing the praises of those who bear with the unbearable in a brave and noble manner — and to help however we can to restore to those veterans who’ve lost it a deep, abiding conviction in the dignity and worth of the human person.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: allenwest; alteredtitle; marines; pissing; taliban
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To: DManA
This is what Mark Levin had to say about it:

And what we should be saying: “Let this be a lesson to everyone of you subhumans who plots against America and tries to kill American citizens. We don’t give a damn who you are! We don’t give a damn what you believe! And we don’t give a damn if you’re offended! Because we’re going to hunt you down and kill you and then humiliate you after you’re killed!

Got it?!
21 posted on 01/14/2012 7:25:03 AM PST by seekthetruth (I want a Commander In Chief who honors and supports our Military!)
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To: patriot08

Viewed the clip though I had seen it before. I agree with it even more each time I see it. And, yes, we do very badly need this man as a part of any Republican administration. That will only happen though, if we can successfully silence the liberal elements of that Republican administration.


22 posted on 01/14/2012 7:26:27 AM PST by davisfh
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To: SeekAndFind

” so lost their humanity” what tripe.

Ike let tens of thousands die in a muddy field with no food water or medical care.....


23 posted on 01/14/2012 7:26:48 AM PST by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: seekthetruth

Excellent.


24 posted on 01/14/2012 7:27:27 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: seekthetruth
This is what Mark Levin had to say about it:

And what we should be saying: “Let this be a lesson to everyone of you subhumans who plots against America and tries to kill American citizens. We don’t give a damn who you are! We don’t give a damn what you believe! And we don’t give a damn if you’re offended! Because we’re going to hunt you down and kill you and then humiliate you after you’re killed!


Ha ha, Mark always has the mot juste.
25 posted on 01/14/2012 7:27:38 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Old Sarge

Oh, yeah, what was I thinking to criticize our Dear Leader???


26 posted on 01/14/2012 7:32:53 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Rick Perry 2012)
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To: kindred
The left wing democrat and rino communist citizens of America are more outraged at military soldiers who do their jobs of killing enemy terrorists than they are at the terrorist major who the DOJ defends for the murder of American soldiers at a military base which the DOJ rats describe as workplace violence. Of the left wing communists it can truly be said, they call evil good and good evil.

You expressed my opinion exactly!

My question remains, WHO shot the video??
27 posted on 01/14/2012 7:33:34 AM PST by seekthetruth (I want a Commander In Chief who honors and supports our Military!)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Marines - IF these were actual Marines - should be punished appropriately: maybe an extra 5 minutes of PT?

Screw the AQ thugs. And #### the leftscum and their “outrage”!


28 posted on 01/14/2012 7:36:06 AM PST by piytar (The Obama Depression. Say it early, say it often. Why? Because it's TRUE.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
Congratulations to Col West!!!

Where are the other conservatives? the Weasels!

Where is Code Pink? Where is John Kerry and “Ghengis” Kahn, now that this is not a Republican President?

My empathy is for these Marines, who got to this point with multiple deployments and watching these Muslim savages kill their friends. Where is the outrage over decimating the military to create endless deployments? where is the outrage that the Va does not have enough services for these young veterans when they come home with the nitemares of WAR??

I NEVER could have said it better! Thank you!!
29 posted on 01/14/2012 7:38:02 AM PST by seekthetruth (I want a Commander In Chief who honors and supports our Military!)
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To: patriot08

“What a man!

View this short video of Col Allen West explaining Islam to a marine. (Start at about 1:35)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkGQmCZjJ0k

We need this man in the new Republican administration.
He is one of the few with guts enough to tell it like it is.
Our elected officials are limp wristed whips who are afraid of Obama and Muslims.”

Thanks for posting this link.

I agree WE NEED ALLEN WEST IN THE NEW ADMINISTRATION!!!!!!!


30 posted on 01/14/2012 7:41:10 AM PST by paterfamilias
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31 posted on 01/14/2012 7:42:14 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: maineman; manc; wymck; ghost26; PJammers; myuval; tiredofreeloaders; WBITT; bigcheese; Yulee; ...
Allen West is the man.

We Floridians think so too!
32 posted on 01/14/2012 7:42:47 AM PST by seekthetruth (I want a Commander In Chief who honors and supports our Military!)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Grand Jihad: How Islam and the Left Sabotage America

Nuff said.


33 posted on 01/14/2012 7:43:03 AM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: SeekAndFind

As a retired Marine, here is how I see it. Americans send their men and women into war, and yet, many have this synthetic, righteous belief that warriors can become effective mechanical killers while remaining perfectly civilized in an environment where killing human beings daily is common place while those being killed are trying their best to kill you first. One small deviation from civility and the critics jump to crucify you, instead of recognizing that you need their support to help you hang on to your sanity. The challenge becomes: How can I continue to remain an effective killer day out and day in without going stark raving mad? I’ll tell you how. You have to dehumanize your enemy. And, after long combat stretches, this gets easier and easier as you get shot at repeatedly and your closest buddies get shot and their life slips away in your arms. Endure this hell repeatedly and then tell me whether your only thoughts are of condemnation?


34 posted on 01/14/2012 7:44:24 AM PST by iontheball
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To: SeekAndFind
Wait, doesn't Rumsfeld Panetta have to resign over this?
35 posted on 01/14/2012 7:49:04 AM PST by fightinJAG (So many seem to have lost their sense of smell . . .)
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To: iontheball

Agreed. Only thing I see suitable for criticism is their lack of the kind of judgement marines should demonstrate: I would have thought marines would have known better than making a video.


36 posted on 01/14/2012 7:54:10 AM PST by DugwayDuke
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To: DManA
Filled theirs with hot lead!

My defense would be that I was trying to put out fire.

37 posted on 01/14/2012 8:01:14 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: DManA
Filled theirs with hot lead!

My defense would be that I was trying to put out fire.

38 posted on 01/14/2012 8:02:45 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: SeekAndFind

I hope they all had a lot of pee at that moment.


39 posted on 01/14/2012 8:04:52 AM PST by Marcella (Newt will smash Hussein in debates. Newt needs money.)
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To: iontheball

Well said. I was marrried to one of those guys for almost 50 years.


40 posted on 01/14/2012 8:09:33 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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