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U.S. Warns Israel on Strike
wall Street journal ^ | JANUARY 14, 2012 | y ADAM ENTOUS,JULIAN E. BARNES and JAY SOLOMON

Posted on 01/14/2012 9:20:01 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Officials Lobby Against Attack on Iran as Military Leaders Bolster Defenses

WASHINGTON—U.S. defense leaders are increasingly concerned that Israel is preparing to take military action against Iran, over U.S. objections, and have stepped up contingency planning to safeguard U.S. facilities in the region in case of a conflict.

President Barack Obama, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and other top officials have delivered a string of private messages to Israeli leaders warning about the dire consequences of a strike. The U.S. wants Israel to give more time for the effects of sanctions and other measures intended to force Iran to abandon its perceived efforts to build nuclear weapons.

Stepping up the pressure, Mr. Obama spoke by telephone on Thursday with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and U.S. Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, will meet with Israeli military officials in Tel Aviv next week.

The high-stakes planning and diplomacy comes as U.S. officials warn Tehran, including through what administration officials described Friday as direct messages to Iran's leaders, against provocative actions.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iran

1 posted on 01/14/2012 9:20:12 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

H/T to the Drudge Report.


2 posted on 01/14/2012 9:21:54 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Bibi ought to tell Hussein to shove it.


3 posted on 01/14/2012 9:30:08 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Has Hillary sent a stern warning letter yet? followed by a phone call, I am sure Bibi is shaking in his boots...


4 posted on 01/14/2012 9:33:40 AM PST by JoanneSD (TEA PARTY VERSES TEE TIME)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

“Hey, Obama, you capisce Yiddish? Vaffanculo!”


5 posted on 01/14/2012 9:42:36 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Ceterum autem censeo, Obama delenda est.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Jeesh. Poor Bambi hasn’t even had time to finish surrendering to the Taliban and now he has to take time out of his heavy schedule to surrender to Iran.


6 posted on 01/14/2012 9:54:43 AM PST by 2111USMC (Not a hard man to track. Leaves dead men wherever he goes.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

FK Obama, Hit ‘em hard IDF!


7 posted on 01/14/2012 9:55:53 AM PST by Grunthor (I am a conservative, neither half of the one party represents my views.)
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To: NormsRevenge; Marine_Uncle; TigersEye; Fred Nerks; SunkenCiv; SJackson
Nice little sidebar with Title:

Mutual Contempt

*****************************EXCERPT***********************************

Insults, taunts and threats between Israel and Iran have been heating up in recent months:


8 posted on 01/14/2012 10:08:28 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

The best response is “I hear you.” and nothing more.


9 posted on 01/14/2012 10:10:49 AM PST by UScbass
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Why should we wait for Sanctions to work?

They have worked so well so far.


10 posted on 01/14/2012 10:15:34 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Israel’s survival is at stake so why should they listen to 0. Oh Dear, the same applies to us.


11 posted on 01/14/2012 10:23:13 AM PST by mcshot (Voter fraud will be the doom of the Republic as desired by the Lib Dems.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Israel needs to use a lone stealth plane with a bunker buster nuke. Create a little nuclear accident.... Those careless Iranians must have just connected the wrong wire.


12 posted on 01/14/2012 10:26:16 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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13 posted on 01/14/2012 11:13:57 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Everything for 0 hinges on his plans for reelection.

Having to deal with a war between Israel and Iran would upset those plans, and worse for him, force him to make critical military decisions in a crisis atmosphere.

Nothing would showcase his monumental ineptitude, his dithering and prevaricating, and his pathetic grasp of foreign policy, diplomacy and military strategy than having to deal with a crisis like this, which would be the most serious of his presidency.

There's nothing he's more afraid of than this. And what's worse, US public opinion would force him to come to Israel's aid, which is entirely against his lefty, crypto-Muslim preferences. But trying to squirm out of it would expose him to huge pressures, and even his friends in the MSM, try as they might, could not spin this for him.

It's a huge lose-lose for him.

14 posted on 01/14/2012 11:26:53 AM PST by mojito
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
contingency planning to safeguard U.S. facilities in the region in case of a conflict

No doubt there are contingency plans for US forces to interdict Israeli forces - to "prevent escalation of the conflict with Iran".

Many plans are made. Few actually get executed.

The key question is whether Obama will have time and support enough to order any actions before the Israeli or the Iranian first strike. And then of course, which contingency plan will he order?

I think Vice-President Biden has already given us a clue.

15 posted on 01/14/2012 11:33:18 AM PST by flamberge (What next?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Bammy’s just quivering with anticipation for the time he can watch Israel get “wiped off the face of the map”, and he can officially bow to apologize for all that the US has down around the world.


16 posted on 01/14/2012 11:59:59 AM PST by Wiggler
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

What about the consequences of no action? (rhetorical)


17 posted on 01/14/2012 12:03:25 PM PST by Know et al (The greatest argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with a voter: Churchill)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

RE: “Mutual Contempt”. Looks like the Kenyan follows closely in the foot steps of Yimmity Cata, to the hilt.


18 posted on 01/14/2012 1:37:50 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
. . . more time for the effects of sanctions and other measures intended to force Iran to abandon its perceived efforts to build nuclear weapons

Perceived efforts? More time for sanctions? Anyone smarter than a turnip knows that Iran is building nukes and would probably already have them and have used them if they had not had such bad luck with traffic accidents and work-related incidents.

Who is killing Iran's nuclear scientists? "Iranian scientist working at a key nuclear facility . . . magnetic bomb was attached to his car by two assailants on a motorcycle . . . fourth assassination of a scientist involved in Iran's nuclear program since early 2010 . . . A sixth key figure in Iran's military program, Maj. Gen. Hassan Moghaddam, an Iranian missile expert who was charged with "ensuring self-sufficiency" in armaments, was killed in November in a huge explosion at the Bid Ganeh base outside Tehran. Iranian officials have called that explosion, and another at a nuclear facility in Isfahan, accidents . . . damage caused by Stuxnet . . ."

I just hope and pray that Israel will continue to ignore any American advice that would put their entire population in immediate danger of mass murder.

19 posted on 01/14/2012 1:47:42 PM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Iran’s “...perceived efforts to build nuclear weapons.” Perceived?? When an Islamic, carbon energy rich nation that burns natural gas off at the wellhead in amounts that would heat Germany builds nuclear reactors, enriches uranium to weapons grade levels in secret complexes and announces it hates America and the west, what makes it a perception? I’d say it’s a dead certainty.

What makes Obama & co. think we can scold Israel for taking steps to protect the safety of Israeli citizens and the national survival of their land? Obama won’t even shake a finger to scold Iran or maintain US security.


20 posted on 01/14/2012 2:11:56 PM PST by RicocheT (Eat the rich only if you're certain it's your last meal)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I can imagine how bold Iran would become when/if they have the nuke. They will
use that nuke to threaten and intimidate every country in the world by
doing whatever they want. And in the current PC climate I doubt many heads
will unplug from the sand trap they've dug for themselves.

They will try to hold the world hostage, that is an absolute fact.

21 posted on 01/14/2012 2:31:38 PM PST by MaxMax
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To: MaxMax

“They will use that nuke to threaten and intimidate every country in the world by doing whatever they want.”

The Iranian proponents of the nuke may think that, but if so they are in for a rude awakening (for details, see van Creveld’s analysis of nuclear proliferation). Despite the apocalyptic views of some factions in the Iranian mullah-ocracy, I suspect that the dominant factions have a much more realistic view of what they might accomplish by developing their nuke, starting with careful consideration of what happened to Libya’s Quaddafi after he renounced his WMD development efforts. http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/32007.pdf They, like the North Koreans, will draw the obvious conclusion: http://38north.org/2011/03/libyan-lessons-for-north-korea/

http://www.forward.com/articles/11673/
The World Can Live With a Nuclear Iran
By Martin van Creveld

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_van_Creveld

http://www.amazon.com/Nuclear-Proliferation-Future-Conflict-Creveld/dp/0029331560

Though the possibility of nuclear confrontation between superpowers has greatly diminished since the end of the Cold War, the possession of nuclear weapons by states whose conflicts are unresolved could turn out to be equally threatening, notes Van Creveld ( The Transformation of War ). He here considers the likelihood of conflict between North and South Korea, China and Taiwan, China and India, India and Pakistan, Israel and the Arab states, as well as the nuclear status of other countries currently developing the scientific, technological and industrial infrastructure that would enable them to build weapons of mass destruction. Van Creveld begins this academic study by describing the basic characteristics of large-scale warfare as it evolved before the introduction of nuclear weapons and the effect of the latter on both the countries that possess them and on those countries threatened by them. Finally, he assesses the impact of nuclear proliferation on the future of war itself, including the configuration of the armies that would be prepared to wage it. For specialists.


22 posted on 01/14/2012 3:19:19 PM PST by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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To: Recovering_Democrat

But dont’ you realize that a strike on Iran would be almost as bad as our marines pissing on some dead terrorists?


23 posted on 01/14/2012 3:30:39 PM PST by Stepan12
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Ernest. The US has done this multiple times, perhaps it’s more like “don’t throw me in that briar patch”.

http://www.google.com/search?q=US+warns+israel+on+iran+site:freerepublic.com


24 posted on 01/14/2012 6:28:29 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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US Warns Israel Not To Attack Iran
Australian Broadcasting Company | Posted Fri May 15, 2009 8:34am AEST | Anne Barker
Posted on 05/15/2009 8:06:56 AM PDT by lewisglad
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2251608/posts


25 posted on 01/14/2012 6:29:35 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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26 posted on 01/17/2012 4:45:17 AM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims¬óDoing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do !)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Europe decided against cooperating with sanctions for at least another six months.


27 posted on 01/17/2012 5:30:31 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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