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Posted on 01/23/2012 2:38:27 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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Yes, getting a Republican House majority reelected twice.
This is always the case with him. Honestly, I think it's just because he's more libertarian than he is a conservative.
I was asking someone else about what Newt said. I left the same time you did.
I did hear him say "The President" in a hushed, reverential tone.
Like he used to do when Bush was president (yeah, right.)
I think Rick Perry has too much of an executive personality to be a good VP. Better to let him go be his own leader in his own domain.
Grotesque, hideous, ugly, radio?
nothing happened = Newt won
Newt was the leader heading into this debate, Newt leaves the leader. No affect what so ever on the race.
Perry would never step down to VP.
He has more influence on policy as a Gov than he would as VP.
They want a long drawn out primary because they think it gives them time to destroy whoever the GOP nominee ends up being. A long primary didn’t hurt Obama in 2008 though.
“Is it just me, or would Rick Perry make an outstanding Vice President?”
It’s just you :)
He was an alcoholic that had gone back to drinking. When he was picked up, he hid one of his shoelaces somewhere on his person and tried to kill himself in the jail cell. After being stopped, getting evaluated in a hospital, and convincing them he was not suicidal, he went home and finished the job.
Earmarks involve hard earned taxpayer money being spent on absurd projects..like the shrimp on the treadmills. Check out CAGW site to look at the tremendous waste ...it is pork and in no way is it good. It is also used to bribe congress...”I’ll vote for your bill IF you give me....mega millions for my state” it is the equivalent of extortion but in a “legal” way. CORRUPT
Yeh, that answer was right up there with I bet you $10,000.
The man is arrogant, and thinks that money is all it takes to be the President. Is that answer he gave gonna turn off Americans? YOU BETCHA.
“When the GOP nominates their man, he will get my support.
Until then, I am entitled to my opinion of Newt Gingrich.”
You can call Newt short, old, fat, like you did, but when you call him a liberal, that’s a lie and not looked upon favorably here.
You really ought to brush up on the site owner's most recent remarks regarding the trashing of Newt Gingrich, who he (and most others in this community) feels is the 'last man standing' for patriotic conservatism and the fundamental ideals this nation was founded upon.
The only thing that concerns me about their reaction is this:
Since they control the media, they control the debate setting. Looking at how it seemed to take the charisma out of Newts performance this evening, if we have Obama and Gingrich on a stage, with a boring moderator and a silent or no audience, it may give an advantage to Obama and neutralize Newt.
This may be the reason for the praise in Newts performance tonight-to encourage this debate style for him and in effect, remove the very best Gingrich weapon.
Especially that last question.
That is why Newt will win.
Post of the night.
“Is it just me, or would Rick Perry make an outstanding Vice President?”
Just you. VPs have to debate also.
Andrea and Chuck F. Todd are salivating at the prospect of open warfare in the Republican Party in general, with Andrea reporting that if Newt takes off with this thing, the Republican establishment will back away from Romney and bring in Jeb Bush or some alternative to Newt who is NOT Romney. Romney? Romney is DONE and the establishment knows it.
Bachmann’s man who quit, Ed Rollins, even says Newt has a good chance to take Florida. Romney HAS to have Florida. The bundlers will leave in droves.
Is there a name for that?
I think "Egads" works.
I’m still betting there was much more to it and while I don’t think Newt did anything wrong (or would have), it doesn’t mean that Brit doesn’t see it that way or blame him somehow based upon rumor.
Parents of suicides often look to blame others.
And another 50 different dialects of English alone in parts of Louisana and Alabama!
YES!!!!!!!!! I fell asleep for a minute lol
Uh, it's already being re-run multiple times at multiple venues.
I would like to see Perry involved in some fashion in a Gingrich administration. Not sure what the best role would be for him, but i came away very impressed with him.
Does anyone else puke in their mouth whenever Mitt says “free enterprise”?
This has been an interesting primary so far, considering we are only 3 states in. The polls have swung wildly to almost every candidate going back to last summer. Almost seems like when someone becomes the frontrunner in the polls, they drop like a rock within weeks. We had Bachman, Perry, Cain, Gingrich, Romney, and now Gingrich again. Maybe best to be a close 2nd and rack up enough delegates and fly slightly under the radar LOL. Being a frontrunner is dangerous!
This was a pretty low key debate as compared to last week. Mitt helped himself some. Gingrich didn’t hurt himself. Santorum looked better than last Thursday. In the end, this one probably doesn’t change much.
I think this race goes all the way into May and June now. Which is good. At least it forces the media to talk about the republican candidates. And Obama is kind of getting drowned out right now. And regardless of who gets the nomination, these large number of debates and drawn out primary battle will only strengthen the republican nominee.
Jeb had a press conference that tipped everyone off. He was a Pontius Pilat.
I always thought Romney was just a big government type. He’s a real slimebag!
Louisiana. Maybe a couple more for us dyslexics.
Q: How come NBC didn’t try to sell that dead time on the feed?
A: They’re waiting for Obama to tell them how to run their business.
It’s worse than that ..... it’s every time he gives that creepy smile or says “I understand how ....”.
Palladin gets cancelled, by the Boss.
I’ve given up trying to understand the thought process.
Perry was buried here at FR because he didn’t oppose his state’s giving in-state tuition for illegals. But we all love Gingrich — and Gingrich has not once said he opposed Texas, or would do anything as president to stop Texas from giving in-state tuition for illegals.
And Here Gingrich seems to support some part of the federal dream act, which Perry opposed. Santorum is the best candidate on Illegal immigrants as expressed here at FR, but he gets trashed in this thread as if he’s some liberal RINO.
Mark Steyn gets trashed because he correctly points out all the places where Gingrich was not conservative — something everybody did here at FR until a couple of months ago, when it became “clear” that Gingrich was the best shot at stopping Mitt. Now that is a good reason to support Gingrich, but not to attack people who still point out that Gingrich isn’t Ronald Reagan, and isn’t particularly conservative on some of the issues that people claim matter.
Santorum did great tonight, and he won Iowa, but he’s “unelectable”, so we are all bad people if we say good things about Santorum and bad things about Gingrich.
I’ll support Gingrich over Romney, but Gingrich is certainly a sad result from what we had to choose from when all this started.
Well that was a lot more boring that it had to be (thanks to NBC), but I am confident Newt will kick Romney’s *ss in Florida now and win the nomination. The liberal cultist had his chance to destroy Newt and failed, and no real republican wants to vote for Romney. Newt is our next President.
Palladin already rode the lightning.
Right on, boss. I was just explaining your position to that guy.
Totally agree. Newt took Romney down by simply reminding everybody what McCain and Huckabee said about him in ‘08. Romney just bored the juice out of his debate in the first 1/3 of the debate by beating the horse to death on his Freddie Mac engagement. I think it was good that Williams let this air out. After Newt released the records today they can tear it apart but there’s probably not much there.
The other thing is that Newt named 2 congressman on the Freddie / Fannie committee who said Newt never approached them to lobby. Romney claimed Newt lobbied but could not give one name of anyone who will validate that. The air is out of this balloon.
Right on. I was shocked to see this cr*p come up on FR yesterday. In trying to chase down where it was coming from, the only internet site I found with a recent discussion of it was the DUmpster. Made me wonder just how it jumped from there to here. Hmmm.
Anyway, there is absolutely zero, zilch, nada verification or confirmation anywhere ever that Sandy Hume was gay. There is zero evidence anywhere that Rep Paxon is gay. This vile hoax was begun (and, I thought, ended) in 1997 by Ann Northrup, who printed the unproven story in her column for the newspaper "Lesbian and Gay New York". She was a vile woman, who acknowledged at the time that she liked to "out" people for political purposes. With this fabrication she tried to tarnish the new (then conservative) Fox News, where Sandy Hume had recently become employed, and two conservative congressmen, Rep Paxon and Rep Gingrich. Other MSM would have loved the story to be true, and they tried like hell to verify it, but there was simply no there there.
I think the DUmpster is trying to float this old story again the same way they wouldn't let the story die about Sarah Palin not being Trig's mother. It's the same thing all over again, imo.
Palladin got the ZOT in post 1420, by Jimrob.
Yippee!!! Worthy ZOT!
Not so sure about that. Personally I get an uncomfortable feeling about Perry. I certainly dont like his positions on Muslims. I lived in Texas for 5 years until hurricane Ike sunk the yacht I lived on and wasnt all the impressed with Perry but not against him either. I just wouldnt feel comfortable putting him in the national level.
Palladin: Have Zot, will travel....
Reminds me of the old joke:
How do you pronounce dead (won’t connect the group that uses each)
The Terri Schiavo incident is still charged. Paul took the minimal response.
Newt took the stark comparison of the state killing an innocent citizen versus the appeals granted a condemned murderer.
You say Jeb didn't "wimp out"; he began boldly to defend and promptly caved to Judge Greer, George Felos, and Michael Schiavo.
Frist, too, began boldly, and promptly caved.
The water is still too hot for Jeb to run now as the establishment's Plan B.
But if they vote AGAINST the appropriations, then the earmarks are moot.
You’re not saving any money by NOT earmarking; you’d only save money by voting against spending (the appropriations bills).
When you earmark AND vote against spending, you’re saying no to spending any money, but if it passes, then you want the money to come back to the people, not be pissed away by the Administration, which will get all the money not earmarked....then Obama gets to give it to all his buddies and their projects...with no accountability. Does Solyndra ring any bells?