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William Jefferson Gingrich [BAD BEAT, RIVERED]
New York Sun ^ | January 25, 2012 | R. EMMETT TYRRELL

Posted on 01/25/2012 3:53:39 PM PST by Nonstatist

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To: Bikkuri

I read some assertion on Twitter that Ann is dating a Romney staffer who was slipping oppo research, presumably on Newt, to drudge, IIRC.


161 posted on 01/27/2012 9:22:53 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: John S Mosby
Newt did a great deal of soul searching, having his failed marriages, until this last one— and converted to Catholicism in his spiritual search.

In that case, he's worth consideration (again).

162 posted on 01/27/2012 9:35:32 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: Biblebelter; berdie; okie01; jwalsh07; John S Mosby; AmericanVictory; STARWISE; ...
...He was sold out in the Senate by his own party led by the ultimate political crossdresser Phil Gramm and...

...This information was never publicly revealed by Hyde to my knowlege but passed on by David Schippers who was the head counsel to the House Managers. I think he wrote a book called Sellout.

Sellout: The Inside Story of President Clinton's Impeachment By David P. Schippers, Alan P. Henry (Page 262)

...Republican Senator Phil Gramm of Texas stands out, in my estimation, as our most loyal and courageous supporter. He talked personally with the Managers a number of times, always giving encouragement and even advice on procedure. Had he been the Majority Leader, things might have been radically different...

163 posted on 01/27/2012 11:25:13 AM PST by BufordP ("Drink me if you can't take a joke." --Kool-Aid)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Didn't you get the memo? The Club for Growth is a bunch of RINOs. LOL!
164 posted on 01/27/2012 11:35:34 AM PST by BufordP ("Drink me if you can't take a joke." --Kool-Aid)
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To: jwalsh07; big'ol_freeper
You been relegated to hall monitor these days? It doesn’t become you.

Don't you just love these brown-nosers who ping JR to posts they disagree with? Can you believe that FR has come to this? FReepers trying to get others zotted because difference of opinion is no longer tolerated!

You are kind to call this one a hall monitor...It's more playground tattling!

165 posted on 01/27/2012 11:51:16 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: BufordP

I stand corrected.

I appreciate your research.

Obviously it was not Schippers that was the source of my assertion.

It is in my memory that Gramm was mentioned as the one who set the rules and the rules set the course of the trial which some saw as a show trial.

Whether that was in fact the case or I am suffering from a faulty memory I cannot say for sure, it was such a long time ago.

I do appreciate that this forum has those such as you who are willing to do the homework necessary to hold posters like myself accountable.


166 posted on 01/27/2012 12:14:15 PM PST by Biblebelter
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

That is my intention, thanks.

I intend to continue zotting trolls, liberals and liberal supporters, as always.


167 posted on 01/27/2012 12:14:46 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is not just brewing, rebellion is here!!)
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To: Biblebelter

From what I was reading as I surfed around was that Gramm was in an unenviable position of having to negotiate between the honest Repubs (I’m discriminating between the good Repubs and the Trent Lotts) versus the Dems trying to work out agreements. He wasn’t forcing the rules as much as playing moderator. And even though he was playing moderator he was still trying to get the best deal for the Managers. Meanwhile, Lott was mucking it up.


168 posted on 01/27/2012 12:32:32 PM PST by BufordP ("Drink me if you can't take a joke." --Kool-Aid)
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To: pa mom
"Are we really an echo chamber? There is some real meat here regarding Newt’s character."


An echo chamber? Apparently so. As for the meat of the article, that appears to be of little concern. The biggest concern is that it echos the party line.
169 posted on 01/27/2012 4:55:12 PM PST by rob777
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To: humblegunner
"Gingrich is what we have to work with and we had by-God better get behind him or watch the whole circus fold. Deal."


What is it with this "we" B.S.? I am have no more interest in getting behind Gingrich than I do Romney. At this point I am more concerned with the House and Senate races, as well as the state and local ones.
170 posted on 01/27/2012 5:00:39 PM PST by rob777
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To: rob777
I am have no more interest in getting behind Gingrich than I do Romney.

Thank you for letting me know what you "am have".

Carry on "am have" no more interest.

171 posted on 01/27/2012 5:19:25 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Well, it was only some few months ago that people were saying that a politician who couldn’t keep his marital vows couldn’t be trusted to keep his promises to the American people. Apparently, that has become passe.

Yes, some were. Oddly, I never noticed a similar reaction on FR when Netanyahu was elected last time, in spite of his two divorces, three marriages and an adulterous affair (that he had to admit to because his political adversaries knew of it) in the early 90s.

Well, maybe some are applying the soft bigotry of low expectations to the Israelis . . . ;-)

172 posted on 01/27/2012 5:21:00 PM PST by maryz
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To: Nifster
140 posted on Thursday, January 26, 2012 1:28:16 AM by Nifster: “Ronald Reagan was the greatest president of my life time. He saved the nation when it was on the bring.”

I know it's just a typo, but this is a funny truth in a way I'm sure you didn't intend. America was on a “bring me this, bring me that, I don't wanna work, just bring it to me” mentality before workfare and similar policy changes that Reagan either began or created a climate to make politically possible.

173 posted on 01/27/2012 10:21:02 PM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: pa mom; Jim Robinson
61 posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2012 6:47:27 PM by pa mom: “So we can’t have ANY issue with extra-marital affairs? It’s an issue and a problem and we can’t just ignore it. How can we slam Clinton up and down the wall for the same thing? It’s NOT okay when our guys do it. I understand fully wanting to see ABR, but we can’t lose our soul. Many of us here are believers and I can’t put aside what I KNOW to be wrong just for politics. I mean no disrespect, but I would hope that MY position is also respected. Thanks.”

Jim Robinson is perfectly capable of speaking for himself, but as someone who also has serious concerns about the same issues of marital infidelity, I haven't been “zotted” once I made very clear my goal is **NOT** to trash Gingrich.

I don't think the point is that we can't have problems with extramarital affairs, but rather that we need to avoid being used as tools to enable the nomination of Mitt Romney.

Related to that, please read this article posted on Free Republic by the pastor of Skyline Wesleyan Church of San Diego regarding Newt Gingrich's personal faith. I found it helpful.

A Pastoral View of Newt Gingrich
By Rev. Jim Garlow
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2822096/posts

As an evangelical Christian, I believe the short-term goal needs to be defeating Romney, and the long-term goal is to defeat Obama.

However, there are people whose sole reason for attacking Gingrich is to get Romney nominated. After the “document dump” over on Drudge Report attacking Gingrich, I think I now have a better understanding of Jim Robinson's reasons.

But even if I didn't agree, it's his site and his rules. I respect that.

For whatever it's worth, PaMom, we also need to deal with the fact that in our own conservative Christian circles, large numbers of people are voting for Newt Gingrich. What happened in South Carolina shocked me — Gingrich won, and won in the most conservative parts of one of the most conservative Bible Belt states, and he didn't just win by a narrow margin but by a huge margin.

When this election is over, we've got some really hard work to do in our churches no matter who wins. A fair number of people in the left-wing media have been claiming that the Tea Party has replaced Christian conservatives as the driving force in the conservative movement. They're wrong, but this election does risk enabling some very dangerous libertarian trends in the Republican Party.

If Gingrich's faith is sincere — and Rev. Garlow’s article gives me reason to be hopeful — a President Gingrich will conduct himself in office as a repentant sinner, and will give evangelical Christians and conservative Catholics a place at the table.

I think it's clear that's far more than we can expect from Mitt Romney, let alone a re-elected Barack Obama.

I'd rather see a better Republican candidate than either Gingrich or Santorum, but right now, those are the only two choices we have left, and since it doesn't look like Santorum is going anywhere, we'd better get prepared to explain to people in our churches why the other alternatives are much worse.

174 posted on 01/28/2012 12:25:41 AM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: Nonstatist
You all can beat your breasts on why we don't have a saint for a conservative president AFTER we have a conservative president to complain about. Right now the country has a terrorist in office and we need a leader more than we need a preacher.

This self indulgence serves no one but the "saints" of Salt Lake City andif that is your goal, then bring on the ZOT.

175 posted on 01/28/2012 1:03:53 AM PST by AnTiw1
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To: darrellmaurina

Yeah it was a typo.... sometimes my fingers do not pay attention to my brain.

Glad I could bring (or should I say brink) amusement to a serious subject. Thanks for your gentle nudge


176 posted on 01/29/2012 10:03:35 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Nifster
On Monday, January 30, 2012 12:03:35 AM · 176
Nifster to darrellmaurina: “Yeah it was a typo.... sometimes my fingers do not pay attention to my brain. Glad I could bring (or should I say brink) amusement to a serious subject. Thanks for your gentle nudge.”

Yep, have a good day!

177 posted on 02/01/2012 8:00:59 AM PST by darrellmaurina
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