Posted on 01/26/2012 4:35:06 AM PST by icwhatudo
If you have so much contempt, why do you write so much?
Thanks icwhatudo.
That I have such contempt is justification for why I write so much.
Better you should spend your time learning and developing some contempt of your own. There is much that is contemptible in this world and in our besieged country and in the GOP, like the Mittwit and those who would substitute the power of money for an understanding of policy and support for what is best for the nation. If you work at it (learning and developing contempt) hard enough and long enough (years apparently) you may rise to the status of extremist. Best wishes in that quest.
God bless you and yours as well. I enjoy reading your posts even if I end up disagreeing with you. Which I invariably do. But they’re carefully crafted, cogent and funny. I appreciate that and it’s something that I’m finding harder and harder to find in political discourse.
Frankly, I think we seek similar ends, just have vastly different ideas of the best way to get there.
I suspect it’s that inquisition thing. Eastern Catholics just don’t understand why you’d bother to have an inquisition unless, of course, it were to extract some really good pirogy recipes.
If you think it’s an energizing factor, more power to you.
I find the information, and the need to respond to it one way or the other, quite energizing all by itself.
I see your point, but I really couldn’t care less as to the motive of the people releasing this info. Their motive is transparent anyway and completely predictable.
And I can’t agree that a vote for Newt is a vote against the media. President Gingrich will most certainly NOT be treating the media the way candidate Gingrich has. Much to the disappointment of many who voted for him in a “hit him again, Joey!” way.
That's probably true, but that's not quite what i had in mind. I meant a vote against the media in terms of sending a message we don't appreciate them playing seek-and-destroy with any candidate who poses a threat to Romney; that we don't appreciate them picking our candidates for us. But no, i wouldn't expect a President Newt to act like candidate Newt when it comes to handling the press....that's what a good press secretary is for : )
The difference in our views and values are so small that you’re required to imply things about mine that are not true to jusitfy the uncharitable venom you’re spewing. As Eric Hoffer once observed, it is self-contempt that sharpens contempt, and your statements about others who differ with you only in degree, your silly screeds, and your fountain of empty and shallow attacks show how insightful Hoffer was.
Care to back up your accusation by pointing out what, specifically, you think are my “lies”?
I’m always willing to listen.
You never answered my question: do you dispute that these stories exist outside of Drudge?
Do you really find it necessary to go running off to Daddy for a pat on the head because someone disagrees with you?
I am well aware of how the owner wants FR to be used and I respect his point-of-view, which we have discussed in some detail in the past. I think he’s well able to address things as he sees fit, and I certainly have no problem supporting him in that.
In the meantime, are you claiming that anything that is non-praise of Gingrich — including analysis that goes to how we might get this man elected and then held accountable once he’s in the Oval Office — is using FR to drive out Newt?
Pretending that if everyone keeps quiet about the challenges ahead in getting Gingrich elected will make those challenges go away is just not true.
Supporting a candidate doesn’t mean pretending he doesn’t present political challenges.
Accepting the reality that a candidate does present political challenges is not “trashing” him.
I’m pretty sure you’d be applying this line of reasoning to the Romney campaign, were he the frontrunner. Difference is, I think ALL the candidates should know that we know their crap stinks and we intend to hold them accountable.
I don't care who you are, that's funny!
The Drudge Report is a news aggregation, which attempts to splash out in headline form a picture of what major themes and controversies are being published in the media.
Just check out his posts, he is consumed with it.
He’s trashed conservatives, like Congressman Ryan, when he thought that’d curry favor with the media by calling Ryan’s policies right wing social engineering. This is the sign of an opportunist, not a party stalwart or a straight shooter committed to conservative ideas. Ego matters too often to Newt more than conservatism.
Newt has personally contributed to the false charge of hypocrisy and image that conservatives can talk the talk on family values but not live them. No one can deny that he’s on his third wife and that while he was leading the charge against the whoremonger Clinton Newt was acting with the same recklessness and sinfulness. Newt tries to stir up passions against Romney for being rich even though Newt has a half a million dollar at Tiffany’s for whenever he needs a piece of jewelry. Most freepers don’t shop at Tiffany’s, nor do we have a half million to leave there for whenever we need a present. I’m glad Newt’s rich, but he should not play the demagogue against Romney because he is too.
Many of us have said for years that character matters. I’d prefer we could be consistent in this belief. Liberals maintain that it’s situational based mostly on party. Joining Liberals now on this subject will mean we get indignant when it suits and turn a blind eye when it doesn’t. That’s one of the awkward positions Newt’s personal infidelities put us in. And just mouthing conservative shibboleths isn’t enough to convince me that Newt won’t abandon our conservative goals either. The toxic and insatiable ambition of Newt made him nearly impossible for other conservatives to work with when he was the Speaker of the House. That too is a big part of the reality of Newt’s character that we’re being asked to ignore.
Finally, I know and agree that Romney is a politician with all of the typical flaws they have and I don’t trust him either to steadfastly support conservatism anymore than I trust Newt. He’s a johnny come lately to much of what we care about, but he’s flopped our way. I believe Newt or Romney will be the next president.
That’s a bunch of garbage and it looks like you’ve swallowed the Romney spin completely. Newt is an author with two dozen books. He wasn’t born into wealth and a political family like Romney. He went to Congress as an outsider and fought for the American taxpayer as hard as anybody. He never became part of the establishment.
He never trashed Paul Ryan. He had one substantive objection to a part of the Ryan plan and stated it factually (he wanted the switch to be optional, not forced). I’m sorry if you were offended by his words, I didn’t know conservatives were so sensitive and politically correct about what words people are allowed to use. Newt has been consistent and never changed his principles and rarely changed his positions, always as the facts and reality changed and required a different response.
The charge against Clinton was based on perjury, plain and simple. It had nothing to do with adultery, it would have been the same no matter what Clinton lied about to try to keep his poll numbers up. Conservatives have always been about forgiveness when someone reforms over time.
The money Newt has is a mouse compared to Romney’s elephant. You’re talking about a whole ‘nother level of lifelong wealth with Romney that makes it impossible for him to understand how the average person lives, as Romney has demonstarted time and again with his clumsy statements.
Romney hasn’t just flip-flopped, he’s totally transplanted his beliefs. On every single major issue, Romney SUDDENLY changed his position when he decided to run for President. He’s a liar and totally unconvincing.
Again, I'm not so much pro-Romney as I am unconvinced that Newt's our man. He is our man if he's the only option, but it's a sad commentary on where we are when Newt is the standard bearer for us. I really cannot argue against what you say about Romney. We're pretty much in agreement.
Yes, Clinton was indicted for perjury, and he should have been run out of office. It was perjury about fellatio. And where I come from that's adultery. So while it's true that Newt didn't commit perjury, every thing I've heard is that he did commit adultery. And that's where he comes up looking like a hypocrite. If he were a Democrat, I wouldn't have to explain that. We conservatives normally don't pretend that adultery is a trait that's no big deal.
I am surprised at the level of commitment Newt inspires and hope that if he wins the nomination he can win the presidency. I'll be surprised again if he doesn't badly disappoint the Freepers who have been so passionate in his defense. He is too mercurial and egotistical in my view.
It’s like this JAG,
If you are not able to follow simple directions and live by house rules, don’t be so shocked when those of us who choose to honor the boss’s wishes get a bit POd when people do whatever they damn well feel like to oppose them. You call it ‘running to daddy’, I call it acting with some respect for the boss. But then that’s the claim many trolls make when they don’t like the rules and get called on their BS.
Now, if you can explain to the class why it is that you think that it somehow benefits/helps/leads a candidate who you yourself ‘claim’ you would vote for, to play concern troll and drag up every real or imagined transgression you can try pinning on him, please, by all means, educate us. Because that flies in the face of logic.
Many here seem to think that JR’s “All in for Newt” proclamation” means just that (and we are willing to respect his position). Your interpretation which is demonstrated by your many Newt-slamming posts on this thread and others is “if I have to vote Newt I will but I’m still gonna bitch to high heaven regardless of what the site owner clearly told us not to do’.
If I disagreed with JR’s edict, I’d have enough personal decency to just shut up, follow his instructions and go to a site where my views better aligned rather than piss on his leg and tell him it was raining.
You are pimping for Romney. Fabian is not.
If Romney is crammed down our throats, you won't be libre for long. You can fantasize that Romney is somehow a "conservative." Most of us know better.
In any event, privileged Mittens, the pro-abort, pro-homosexual, pro-perversity posing as "marriage, gun-grabbing, tax-hiking (on people of modest means to comfort his own privileged class), job-killing, GATT and WTO loving genuine son of his brainwashed father will never get my vote any more than did McGovern, Ted Kennedy, Obama, John F'n (did you know he served in Vietnam until his self-induced first, second and third purple ouchie?) Kerry, AlGore, Slick Willy, Michael Dukakis, Jimmuh Peanut, Walter Mondull, or any other Mittwit political soulmate who has run in the past. The only difference with Mittwit is that he has the colossal gall to run as though he were an actual Republican while he has consistently repudiated the important parts of the GOP platforms and then lying about it.
Is Gingrich perfect? Nope. But he is near infinitely more perfect than the Mittwit.
Have you seen Nancy Reagan in 1995, long after Newt publicly suggested that Bush the Elder (and elitist) come up with a new approach, Nancy Reagan saying flat out that her husband (still alive at the time) had passed the torch of conservatism to New Gingrich?
Did you ever wonder why neither Reagan Reagan nor anyone else possessed of condor and honesty ever passed any conservative torch to Mittwit? Could it be that he has been nothing more than a money-obsessive leftist birdbrain throughout his public life???
You want to vote for Mittwit? Show me whom you would elect and I'll show you what you are. We won't have to wait that long. You are in for the surprise of your life when you see how many actual conservatives (social, military, foreign policy, and folks of modest means) will gladly abandon the Mittwit. I will eagerly be one of them and I will convince every conservative voter I can. Too bad for the taxes and trust funds and job-killing trade schemes that are the only concerns of his well-padded corrupt anti-conservative bank rollers and stooges.
Let me make it so clear that even equivocating you can understand. I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR MITTWIT IN A PRIMARY OR AN ELECTION and neither will a whole lot of actual conservatives.
You may or may not have noticed but management here is, ummmm, not fond of the Mittwit. I never blow the whistle on anyone because I believe in the back and forth. What makes you think you won't come to management's attention? This is JimRob's living room not yours or mine.
Finally, I was a Reagan state campaign chair when he went against Mittwit's sorry spiritual and political ancestor Feckless Gerald Ford, another marionette of the privileged class. (Elitists: Gerald, jump! Gerald: How high?) You were not.
Aren't pierogis primarily associated with Poland, Lithuania, Czechoslovakia, all Latin Rite Catholic countries?
By Eastern Catholic, do you mean Eastern Rite Catholic or Eastern Orthodox?
As to "the inquisition thing," you may recall that Monty Python had a skit featuring men clothed in cardinalitial red suddenly appearing and saying triumphantly "Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!!!" Well, in Poland and some other countries, it was even better. Not only did no one EXPECT the Polish Inquisition, no one even SUSPECTED its existence but it was very effective and Poland has given us a pope much more recently than has Spain. Any heretics in Poland disappeared without showy fanfare.
Originally, the Inquisition was created to deal with such heretics as the Cathars and the Waldensians. Even you have to admit that you have met few, if any, Cathars or Waldensians. For that, we may thank the saintly Fra Tomas and his associates and their equivalents in other countries.
The Dominican Lords of the Inquisition were employed by Ferdinand and Isabella to crush the Muslims LONG before crushing Muslims was cool. "The auto-da-fe is God's chosen way to purge sin from the land. Another soul to heaven (or wherever) from Torquemada's band!" (partial lyrics of the theme song of the TdTGS, sung to the tune of McNamara's Band).
The Spaniards probably also have pierogi but would not call them pierogis. Instead, they would have a Spanish name and be served by irresistible dark-eyed young beauties in sharp clothing with a dramatic flourish.
Oh, and thanks for the kind words.
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