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[RaceBannon]

Article II SUPERPAC streaming live video and audio at this link

[spokeshave]

BTW, she is absolutely 100% right. Her big win should come in Hawaii, where the authorities are breaking state law by not letting everyone who asks poke around in the records room.

any news on this..?

thanks in advance.

[morphing libertarian]

I don’t have the energy or connections to get one started in Cal. But I would contribute should some one initiate a case.

[Kleon]

Are you accusing me of using multiple accounts?

[Churchillspirit]

A girl who worked for me came from old New England money...had a summer home near the Kennedys.

Her mother was a CPA and took a job in Alabama. They had been living there for several months when one day the mother called upstairs to the daughter.."Have you tidied your room yet?"

The reply came back..."I'm fixin' to do it"

They were back in Boston within three months!

[DiogenesLamp]

To protect the presidency of the man who appointed him to the bench. If Arthur was found to be ineligible and removed, Gray would have suffered the same fate. He had material interest in helping hide Arthur’s status and what it meant.

This would presume the unproven fact that Justice Gray knew anything about it. I very much doubt that Chester Arthur collaborated with Judge Gray to protect both their secrets. A more likely explanation is that which I posted to Rummy Girl above. Republican Justice Gray wanted to Slap down those Racist Democrats and rebuke Justice Tanney in Dred Scott v Sanford. He saw no danger to the Presidency from his actions and it just felt too good for him to resist moralizing against the Democrats he hated.

[STJPII]

“in the record” or “into evidence?” I suspect you already know, the two are not the same. If the COLB was not admitted into evidence, Sven and others who seem apoplectic over the issue, appear to be worrying needlessly.

[RummyChick]

Here is a simple question.

Did the majority opinion AND the Dissent of Wong Kim Ark indicate that the majority opinion was that the 14th Amendment was declaratory of the Common Law Doctrine on citizenship.

[justlurking]

Actually, just last December or late November (I don’t recall exact date), 2011, the facts surfaced through an unexpected channel, a Canadian source, so I don’t have to stick my neck out to get this into the public domain now.

That's fair. I understand that you don't want to get caught up in the circus.

But, if the SHTF and the BC forgery suddenly becomes a topic of national discussion, your info might help to explain what happened. However, I don't know how one would publish it and authenticate it, anonymously.

I don't know what really happened, and I suspect that Obama himself might not know. But under the circumstances, I can understand why his grandparents would have fabricated a US citizenship for him.

[rxsid]

"Your son CAN become President according to the Common Law Doctrine as outlined in Wong Kim Ark. The 14th Amendment was a declaratory Amendment according to the majority opinion in Wong Kim Ark."

Nonsense. WKA was not found to be a "natural born Citizen", only a "citizen."

And the state of Indiana case of Ankeny confirms that the WKA court did not find WKA to be a "natural born Citizen."

[DiogenesLamp]

I even had material which has never seen public reading which show Barry was not even born in the USA but his mtoher broguht him back tot he U.S. within the first month of his life, but that is no more useful now than it would have been in fall of 2008.

If you have such material, why not post it now? Many of us would be very interested to see it.

[Churchillspirit]

Would this set a precedence for other states?

Arizona comes to mind for starters.

[Fractal Trader]

Actually, just last December or late November (I don’t recall exact date), 2011, the facts surfaced through an unexpected channel, a Canadian source, so I don’t have to stick my neck out to get this into the public domain now.

You say that you have incontrovertible evidence that BHO was born outside of the US and now that this information has been revealed this past fall and is in the public domain.

URL please?

[RummyChick]

Here is a simple question.

Did the majority opinion AND the Dissent of Wong Kim Ark indicate that the majority opinion was that the 14th Amendment was declaratory of the Common Law Doctrine on citizenship.

[rxsid]

Here's the simple facts of the case:

WKA was not found to be a "natural born Citizen", only a "citizen."

And the state of Indiana case of Ankeny confirms that the WKA court did not find WKA to be a "natural born Citizen."

[DiogenesLamp]

In that case there will be appeals, right up to the SCOTUS...Standing will no longer be the issue.

If it goes to SCOTUS now, I fear we will lose. Not because we are wrong, but because it takes a long time to research and learn what is the correct meaning of "natural born citizen." Couple that with the likely hood of the Supreme Court not wanting to cause such a disruption as would occur if they unseated the first "black" President, and our odds of winning are virtually nil.

We should fight this out in state courts one by one until it becomes too big of an issue to cover up any longer. Once the public is woke up and angry, THAT will be the time to take it to the Supreme Court. Of course this scenario relies on Obama being unwilling to present his birth certificate at any of these state trials.

[justlurking]

You say that you have incontrovertible evidence that BHO was born outside of the US and now that this information has been revealed this past fall and is in the public domain.

Actually, he says that it is not in the public domain, because he doesn't believe it will make any difference at this time.

Follow the string of replies back to #818.

[GregNH]

I will meet you anywhere in this country and relieve of the burden. I will never need to know who you are nor would I ever want to. Once the information is my possession it I take full responsibility for it. I mean this sincerely. You don’t even have to answer now. FReep mail me at anytime.

[philman_36]

It's a simple question. I even posted the decision and you can't answer a simple question.

The evident intention, and the necessary effect, of the submission of this case to the decision of the court upon the facts agreed by the parties were to present for determination the single question stated at the beginning of this opinion, namely, whether a child born in the United States, of parent of Chinese descent, who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of the Emperor of China, but have a permanent domicil and residence in the United States, and are there carrying on business, and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under the Emperor of China, becomes at the time of his birth a citizen of the United States. For the reasons above stated, this court is of opinion that the question must be answered in the affirmative.

He was deemed a citizen ...by virtue of the first clause of the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution..., not upon Article II of the Constitution, which was the very question the court was asked to decide upon.

All of your SCREAMING isn't going to change that last sentence. He was declared a citizen, not a natural born citizen, because he was born on US soil to foreigners. Period!

It really is that simple.

[DollyCali]

great comments from you both (Mr.K 812)

I used them both on my FB page & have you the HT.

I was unable to follow the trial today & this thread did help.

Hard to believe Mr. Arrogance didn’t even send an attorney. Showing disdain for the laws of the land & his attitude he is above the law. Pwet!

[DiogenesLamp]

Obama, Homeland Security Chertoff and the Senate agree with the TWO US PARENT definition. Thomas said the SCOTUS was "evading" the issue. To me, that says they know something smells.

Roe v Wade smells up one side and down the other, yet what was the last SCOTUS decision regarding it? Stare Decisis! (Which means "Shut up and do what we tell you!" )

Throwing out the first "black" President is no little deal. Even if they agreed, I think they will chicken out.