Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Obama’s Birthplace Question May Boot Him Off Georgia Ballot
Israel National News ^ | 1/29/2012, 2:31 PM | Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu

Posted on 01/29/2012 11:19:11 AM PST by devattel

“Birthers” have asked a Georgia court to bar President Barack Obama from the ballot unless he proves he was born in the United States.

The president last year tried to silence doubters and showed a copy of his citizenship papers, but that has not stopped those who say his papers are forged.

American law requires the president be a natural born citizen. His birthplace is recorded as being in Hawaii.

Savannah, Georgia Tea Party chairman Marolyn Overton told the local WSAV station, "I think Obama should not be able to just kind of force his way through this, not produce any answers. He's stonewalling us. He has partially contributed to the controversy because he has not produced any papers that would prove or disprove anything to end the controversy."

(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: certifigate; eligibility; georgia; naturalborncitizen; obama
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 121 next last
To: devattel
"I find it curious the DNC is poking their nose into this fight."

The DNC's fanny is hanging 'way out on this -- big time! In 49 States, their certification of Øbozo did not warrant that he met the Constitutional requirements for the Presidency. Nantzi Pelosi signed a different certifiction for Hawaii alone -- that solitary certification did contain the Constitutional statement. On that one, Pelosi's signature is very shaky and tentative -- as if she knew full well that she was committing fraud by signing it... and felt the stress of her lie.

Pelosi and the DNC stand to lose hugely over this one -- no matter what happens to Øbozo...

21 posted on 01/29/2012 11:57:03 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Scooter100

Although the author is completely ignorant to the facts of the case, I posted this article because it clearly states the DNC will take action and appeal.

It is quite interesting how “they” will appeal, considering they were never an original party to the case.


22 posted on 01/29/2012 11:57:50 AM PST by devattel
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: ArmyTeach
“Anyone check me on this. Obviously Obama sr was Kenyan and a citizen of the British commonwealth. However, his mother was 18 years old at the time of Obama jr birth. Am I right in recalling that a parent must be 19 years of age to confer citizenship on a child and therefore neither parent can confer citizenship.”

This only comes into play if he was NOT born in Hawaii (or anywhere in the USA). If he was born in Hawaii, it doesn't matter who his parents were. An anchor baby if you will.

IF, he was not born in the United States, say Kenya, or Canada, he would not be a U.S. citizen AT ALL because his dad was not American and his mom was not old enough, long enough, to convey citizenship, under statute, at the time.

You are confusing “Citizenship” vs “Natural Born Citizenship”. Of course you can't be a Natural Born Citizen if you are not even a citizen.

“Natural Born Citizenship” is a Constitutional requirement

Article II, Section 1, Clause 5, which only applies to the president only.

“.............No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States...........”

and the Vice President in

Amendment 12

“..........But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.”

23 posted on 01/29/2012 11:59:05 AM PST by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: devattel

I thought Obama and the democrats might be content to leave this sleeping dog lie there in Georgia.

If it isn’t appealed, their media pals will keep it quiet and almost no one other than conservatives and political junkies will even know this hearing took place.

However it it is appealed, the story could become too big to contain. Even with the elitist liberal spin about “crazy southerners” and “redneck racists”, the fact he might not be on the ticket in one state will get some people to start thinking “where there is some smoke there might be some fire”.

Heck! Some of the other 56 states might even decide to jump on the bandwagon!


24 posted on 01/29/2012 12:00:49 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: devattel

Where is his birthplace recorded as being in Hawaii?


25 posted on 01/29/2012 12:02:47 PM PST by maxwellsmart_agent (I)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: devattel
Maybe Obama’s lawyer did the only thing he thought he could at this point. Showing up would not guarantee a win for Obama, but this keeps the attention level low for now.

There's always the chance, I suppose, that the Republicans would support a decision that kept Obama on the ballot. They would figure it would help Bobby Jindal, Marco Rubio and others. After all, neither party seems all that interested in upholding any kind of citizenship laws. If tens of millions of illegals don't bother the powers that be, why would one more, even if in the White House?

But I do hear good things about the Georgia secretary of state, as I hope I'm wrong.

But if the Georgia case gets any media attention, expect Romney, Rove and other Republicans to trip over themselves clawing their way to a microphone saying Obama is eligible. Of that much I am sure.

26 posted on 01/29/2012 12:02:59 PM PST by cvq3842
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: melissa_in_ga

Yup - it’s not rocket science! People who are either this stupid or dishonest should find another line of work.


27 posted on 01/29/2012 12:05:08 PM PST by cvq3842
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: LachlanMinnesota

It was interesting that Pelosi changed the certification form determining his eligibility to run, and signed same in 49 states. Hawaii insisted on the real certification form, which she did sign...(kinda proving Hawaii was in it from the get go and doing a bit of CYA). Pelosi’s botoxed head is on the chopping block. And it doesn’t matter if Malcolm X or Davis, both US citizens, are his father. Obummer is claiming Brit/Kenyan citizen Obama, Sr. as his father, and he is stuck with it now. Also, according to bloggers, there is no formal name change changing his name from Soebarkah or Soetero on record in the U.S. (although there is someone changing their name to Barack Obama in an off the beaten track court in Canada). At the least,Obummer ran under an assumed name.


28 posted on 01/29/2012 12:05:34 PM PST by kiltie65
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: devattel

I’m not really up on this but wouldn’t the falsification of ss number(s) be easier to pin down? Wouldn’t that constitute fraud? Once a lie is proven, the whole conspiracy would fall, don’t you think?


29 posted on 01/29/2012 12:06:06 PM PST by Nanny7
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: devattel

I’m not really up on this but wouldn’t the falsification of ss number(s) be easier to pin down? Wouldn’t that constitute fraud? Once a lie is proven, the whole conspiracy would fall, don’t you think?


30 posted on 01/29/2012 12:06:19 PM PST by Nanny7
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: devattel
Pelosi's Hawaii (only) certification -- with "Constitution" statement (note Pelosi's signature)...


31 posted on 01/29/2012 12:07:37 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: chopperman

I know she was. I watched from 8:30 until the end of the hearing.

Orly’s charges are too “out there” for the average American to swallow. Unlike the other two cases, she didn’t offer compelling proof that NObama is ineligible. The other two attorneys were quick, to the point, and factual-even using Obama’s own writings to show he’s not an NBC. Judge Malihi admonished Orly several times and showed impatience with her. She may be on a one-woman crusade to get the truth out, but in doing so may tarnish those cases that have a chance.


32 posted on 01/29/2012 12:11:19 PM PST by melissa_in_ga (Laz would hit it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: faucetman
Amendment 12

“But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.”

This why we can't have a Marco Rubio or a Bobby Jindal as VP. You could have a situation where the president dies and Nancy Pelosi (or some other Democrat) is Speaker of the House. They would become the legitimate President, because the ineligible Rubio or Jindal could not legally take office. Nancy Pelosi or the Democrats would never bring this up, would they? I mean a chance to legally STEAL the presidency? No, they wouldn't dare. (sarc)

33 posted on 01/29/2012 12:11:35 PM PST by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: devattel

American law requires the president to be a natural born citizen of 2 American parents.
“The Secretary of State [of Georgia] has all ready said he will back the Judge. Signing off on it is all that’s left to do.

They skip the ballot hearing “at their own peril. His name will not be on the Ga. ballot.

Nobody is above the law.
look away look away look away Dixie land


34 posted on 01/29/2012 12:11:47 PM PST by triSranch ( Home of J.C. Calhoun and the Birthplace and Deathbed of the Confederacy)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: devattel

If Georgia refuses to allow Obama on the ballot, then you would have two states with different standards - Indiana & Georgia. That should force a federal court case with expedited review by the US Supreme Court to rule, definitively, on the meaning of natural born citizen.


35 posted on 01/29/2012 12:22:05 PM PST by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: devattel
google news
92 hits with, georgia eligibility obama

61 hits with, georgia eligibility obama -birther (i.e, w/o the pejorative word "birther")

And the scant (virtually zero) MSM mention was along the lines of "Commentary: 'Birthers' nonsense sets Georgia up for ridicule — again Kansas City Star - 2 days ago"

Also, georgia eligibility obama -birther, included hits about eligibility for food stamps and other programs not related to the issue of Obama's eligibility to be president.

My cursory effort to get a count of only stories about this issue netted less than 20 hits.

36 posted on 01/29/2012 12:26:29 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: faucetman

Amendment 12

“But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.”

This why we can’t have a Marco Rubio or a Bobby Jindal as VP. You could have a situation where the president dies and Nancy Pelosi (or some other Democrat) is Speaker of the House. They would become the legitimate President, because the ineligible Rubio or Jindal could not legally take office. Nancy Pelosi or the Democrats would never bring this up, would they? I mean a chance to legally STEAL the presidency? No, they wouldn’t dare. (sarc)


37 posted on 01/29/2012 12:32:57 PM PST by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: melissa_in_ga

exactly what I was going to post..when will people figure this out..he could have been born in the white house..still would make him ineligible because of his daddy.


38 posted on 01/29/2012 12:34:08 PM PST by leenie312
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: devattel
It is quite interesting how “they” will appeal, considering they were never an original party to the case.

They "have no standing" for an appeal, which is the same bullsquat they have been using right and left to quash any other case which has come before a court...

the infowarrior

39 posted on 01/29/2012 12:35:43 PM PST by infowarrior
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Mr Rogers
Mr Rogers said:

If Georgia refuses to allow Obama on the ballot, then you would have two states with different standards - Indiana & Georgia. That should force a federal court case with expedited review by the US Supreme Court to rule, definitively, on the meaning of natural born citizen.

This suit was originally about Natural Born Citizenship and its definition. Now it has become one of vetting rights, especially with a default judgment. Although it is important for us as a nation to get to the bottom of this definition, we must first make a decision on who has authority to vet eligibility first.

Obama's attorney attempted to say the federal government has the authority. The DNC says it has the authority, which is impossible because it is a private entity. Other courts have said only Congress has the authority. Now Georgia says it has authority, at least at the state level.

40 posted on 01/29/2012 12:37:02 PM PST by devattel
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 121 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson