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More Doctors 'Fire' Vaccine Refusers
Wall Street Journal ^ | FEBRUARY 15, 2012 | SHIRLEY S. WANG

Posted on 02/15/2012 1:10:19 PM PST by FewsOrange

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To: ari-freedom

That’s funny, too.


101 posted on 02/15/2012 3:35:50 PM PST by Tax-chick (I saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's. His hair was perfect!)
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To: aposiopetic; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; AccountantMom; adopt4Christ; ...

Yeah, I know it’s of interest to homeschoolers.


102 posted on 02/15/2012 3:36:09 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Jewbacca

Vaccination is a big issue in the Jewish community after an outbreak of pertussis in Lakewood, NJ.

“Recently, there have been a number of reported cases of whooping cough in Lakewood, NJ. In fact, two infants were hospitalized in critical condition due to untreated whooping cough. Neither of those infants had been vaccinated against the disease. Doctors have also reported that whooping cough has spread to those who were not vaccinated at an alarmingly quick rate. As a result, Lakewood’s famous senior pediatrician, Dr. Reuven Shanik, publically declared that he would not see any patients whose immunization records were not up-to-date.”


103 posted on 02/15/2012 3:38:21 PM PST by ari-freedom
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To: To-Whose-Benefit?

Not remotely.


104 posted on 02/15/2012 3:40:13 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: FewsOrange

If I were a Dr., I’m not so sure that I wouldn’t do the same thing. They get sued if they DO something and they get sued if they DON’T!!

Lawyers have cleaned up making doctors the target of the litigious-minded!! And, the lawyers are the only ones making any money!!


105 posted on 02/15/2012 3:45:33 PM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - Another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: Jewbacca

“Global warming cultists and the anti-vaccine cultists share the same bad scientific methods.

Remarkably so, in fact.”

Well, then, I quess that’s the end of that. If it’s gubbmint approved, what on earth more is there to question? Unless of course it’s going into you or a family member?

http://www.pharmalot.com/2012/02/house-probes-fda-over-whistleblower-employees/#comments

For the record, the employees accused the FDA of secretly reading their personal email accounts, while the agency maintained they illegally disclosed confidential business information after writing to Congress to complain they were being coerced to approve devices that posed unacceptable risks (back story). And their lawsuit charges the FDA repeatedly attempted to initiate formal criminal investigations and harmed their reputations.


106 posted on 02/15/2012 3:49:59 PM PST by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: RFEngineer

I would rather be stupid than a communist. But since I didn’t miss any childhood vaccines, you will have to come up with something else.


107 posted on 02/15/2012 3:51:00 PM PST by st.eqed
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To: Jewbacca

It’s clear you really do not know how to read english.

You are nothing but a freaking liberal with your ends-justify-the-means viewpoint and trying to cover it up under some veneer of your religion to try to pass it off on the gullible who’ll buy that crock of crap.

Me not taking a vaccine harms nobody else. How can I harm you if your precious and perfect vaccine protects you?

You’re insane and people like you ought never to be in positions of power over anyone else.

You are just justifying taking away people’s ability to determine acceptable risk for themselves because somehow you know what’s better for them than they do and you have no problem forcing it onto them in the name of whatever religion you appear to following.

Ironic also you call me a luddite when you’re the one justifying forcing people to get vaccinated because your religion says it’s your duty to force people to do stuff if you think it’s best for them.

Naw, you’re not an effing communist. Get off the board and go home to DU. Seriously.


108 posted on 02/15/2012 3:52:28 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Jewbacca

You must be for Obamacare’s mandate then too.

Obama says his religion beliefs shaped Obamacare and the individual mandate. You’re all for forcing medical decisions and choices against peoples’ will, I am sure you are just happy as hell Obamacare passed.

Hey, Obama knows what you need better than you do. His experts will say they know stuff and say it’s true too. They’re all smarter than you. They must know better than you too.


109 posted on 02/15/2012 3:56:11 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: To-Whose-Benefit?

I don’t doubt the FDA has issues. But vaccines have been around a lot longer than the FDA.

And I understand being annoyed at government ordering you do to things. I hate seatbelt laws. But I wear my seatbelt, and did so before there were such laws.

I’ve been to countries where basic vaccination plans are not in place (e.g., South Sudan). It’s not pretty.


110 posted on 02/15/2012 3:56:21 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

You’re a very silly man.


111 posted on 02/15/2012 3:57:23 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Tax-chick

“This sounds like a marketing opportunity for a medical practice that doesn’t support vaccination.”

Imagine all the interesting diseases you could pick up in *that* waiting room.


112 posted on 02/15/2012 3:58:22 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: Tax-chick
one doctor, osteopathic practitioner

Osteopath's are Doctor's. And called D.O.s and addressed as Dr. Smith, or Morris, or whatever.

In fact their training is not much different these days from a M.D. If at all....

FWIW-

113 posted on 02/15/2012 3:58:43 PM PST by Osage Orange (A clear conscience is the sign of a fuzzy memory.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Exactly! The choice comes down to the individual, not the state. This is a fundamental tenet of conservatism.

It’s also good to view the FDA with a healthy dose of skepticism because it’s part of the government just as much as any other federal agency. I’m not saying that it’s always wrong, but it certainly can’t be immune from the corruption that’s found its way into everything else in Washington.

People who ask questions about vaccines or any other health-related topic should be commended because they’re attempting to take charge of their health. If more people asked questions before eating junk food, smoking, or settling for a sedentary lifestyle, we’d all be lot better off.

Reward their curiosity and point them in the right direction; don’t tell them off. That’s what I say.


114 posted on 02/15/2012 3:58:49 PM PST by Cato in PA (1/26/12: Bloody Thursday)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Nicely put. I can’t wait until the free indoctrination- er. I mean education kicks in so I can have a fulfilled life.


115 posted on 02/15/2012 4:02:33 PM PST by st.eqed
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To: Jewbacca

Once you have basic hygiene standards in an area diseases naturally decrease. That is the trend we’ve seen in America even before vaccines. All diseases were decreasing before we started developing vaccines for everything. It’s always been attributed to the fact basic hygenic practices were in place and being followed. Same reason why childbirth deaths/mom deaths went down when doctors and hospitals started handwashing and soap between patients.

Potable water, sewage treatment systems, garbage treatment/removal, and basic soap/handwashing/hygiene practices are what is necessary to greatly reduce diseases and outbreaks. We achieved this in most places by the 1900s and the data for diseases going down reflects that.

South Sudan has never attained these four basic standards to prevent outbreaks. So you are really comparing apples and oranges, a third world country will not hit the levels necessary to prevent such things.


116 posted on 02/15/2012 4:02:53 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: PLMerite

“Imagine all the interesting diseases you could pick up in *that* waiting room.”

Nothing that can’t be cured with the blood of a chicken, a goat tongue, and some chanting in Urdu.


117 posted on 02/15/2012 4:07:40 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Cato in PA
I don’t think raising questions in this manner is radical or extreme in any way. Vaccine proponents should have nothing to fear from an open and honest discussion since they believe the evidence to be on their side.

The way they mock and deride most people who ask them to defend the status quo is shameful.

That alone makes me wonder about the need for so many vaccines.

There are vaccines that are absolutely worth getting and there are vaccines that are overkill in their preventing a slight risk.

Either way, the biggest problem I see is that so many vaccines are given at one time.

In the real world, nobody contracts measles, mumps, rubella, polio, DPT, chickenpox, tetanus, all at once.

While I think that some of these vaccines are really important, like tetanus, some aren't and they should not be overloading an infant or toddlers immune system like that.

118 posted on 02/15/2012 4:09:46 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Jewbacca

” being annoyed at government ordering you do to things”

It’s not a matter of being merely annoyed. Government already owns virtually whatever you own by just passing some piece of crap legislation that determines They want it. And even That’s not enough for them.

Forced, Legislated Medicine is Government taking your Health After they’ve taken your property in order to appease the monied interests who bought them their offices through lobbying bucks.

When it comes to putting Any foreign substance into My Carcass, OR YOUR’S,

SHOW ME THE MONEY!


119 posted on 02/15/2012 4:10:42 PM PST by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: st.eqed

“I would rather be stupid than a communist.”

This is good material.


120 posted on 02/15/2012 4:11:04 PM PST by RFEngineer
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