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Live Thread (CNN Presidential Debate from Mesa, AZ, Feb 22, 8 PM EST)
CNN.com ^ | 02-22-2012 | parksstp

Posted on 02/22/2012 3:30:02 PM PST by parksstp

LIVE DEBATE THREAD (Is it too early to start?)


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: 2012debates; aknockout4newt; arizona; arizonadebate; arizonaprimary; az2012; backstabberromney; bitterromney; elections; gingrich; gopdebate; livegopdebate; michiganprimary; mitttrotsky; newt; newt4gunfreezones; newtlautenberg; newtvotedantigun; newtwon; paul; popesantorum; reichsfuhrerpaul; rick4anticondomczar; rickhatesprotestants; ricksturnsoffvoters; romney; santorum
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To: writer33

Nah... I don’t agree. You’ve made up your mind for Santorum based on platitudes. Why would I waste my time trying to get you to understand substance? (Hint: There’s no reason).

Thanks.


801 posted on 02/22/2012 6:36:51 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: freemarketsfreeminds

Santorum: prolific proliferator....

That’s a mouthful.


802 posted on 02/22/2012 6:37:18 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: sillsfan
Re: Santo's voice...he's pontificating profusely under pressure to be pertinent.

Emphasis on the "P".

803 posted on 02/22/2012 6:37:24 PM PST by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: Red Steel

Paul is ok with Iran having one nuke, one with Israel’s name on it no doubt. Israel is a one bomb target.


804 posted on 02/22/2012 6:37:24 PM PST by Poincare (Reality is not a fool.)
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To: writer33
This is kind of sad. This debate thread moves slower in terms of posts than any debate thread I've ever seen on FR. Why? Because it's a complete echo-chamber delivering no useful information. It's no less astro-turf for Gingrich than the stacked audience is for Romney.

Watching supposed conservatives bash a conservative stalwart like Rick Santorum because he's not their preferred candidate is boring. When FR becomes a one-candidate forum to the detriment of all others, its relevance diminishes drastically.

The goal here is to beat Romney, then beat Obama. If you've forgotten that, you're contributing to the election of one of them.
805 posted on 02/22/2012 6:37:37 PM PST by Antoninus (Mitt Romney -- attempting to execute a hostile take-over of the Republican Party.)
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To: show

Yes, the intelligence level should increase next caucus when Ron Paul supporters have gone back to their Democrat home.


806 posted on 02/22/2012 6:37:47 PM PST by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: JimSEA

Santorum very very good in Obama vs. Iran (Obongo letting Iran walk all over His Royal Highness). Very good. Very impassioned. The Romney stacked audience would not go wild though. I can deal with it.


807 posted on 02/22/2012 6:37:47 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Patience, my compatriots, PATIENCE! FR will be "Santorum Country" in a very short time, IMHO.)
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To: smoothsailing

Newt’s nailing them with Perrys energy plan.


808 posted on 02/22/2012 6:37:59 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: RitaOK
Of course now. Me neither. I personally know NO ONE who will vote for Romney.

Wish I could say the same. People in AZ seem to really like Romney.

:(

809 posted on 02/22/2012 6:38:04 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Santorum looks like a wimp. Newt looks like a teacher educating the students aka RS, Mitt.


810 posted on 02/22/2012 6:38:04 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: All

Santorum smacks down Obama on Iran and Newt does too!


811 posted on 02/22/2012 6:38:04 PM PST by sheikdetailfeather ("We need to teach the establishment a lesson!" Newt Gingrich CPAC 2-10-2012)
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To: rodguy911

I have said it before..so I repeat myself...Santorum is the “junior partner” in a Gingrich organization. Rick needs a few years to learn from the master. I like Santorum, but he is not yet ready for prime time, and this debate is proving it. That being said...he is a damned site better than Mittens, that smarmy lying sack of crap.


812 posted on 02/22/2012 6:38:04 PM PST by MagUSNRET (I have always been proud of my country, it is my government that I am ashamed of!)
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To: All

Why is there no discussion of gas prices, or keystone pipeline? Someone needs to call John King out on this horrible line of questions.

Not to mention all the softballs to Romney...


813 posted on 02/22/2012 6:38:12 PM PST by sandshark222
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To: Reily

LOL!!!!


814 posted on 02/22/2012 6:38:31 PM PST by matginzac
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To: dandiegirl

Pray you’re right.

One would think a mannequin could defeat him as abysmal a President he is.


815 posted on 02/22/2012 6:38:45 PM PST by phoneman08 (Reagan conservative union member. Not a s rare as you think!)
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To: reasonisfaith
Congressman Paul has shown a very serious defect in his understanding of reality. He's an absolute nutcase.
816 posted on 02/22/2012 6:39:16 PM PST by Cato in PA (1/26/12: Bloody Thursday)
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To: Right_in_Virginia

Nah. I made up my mind because of conviction. That’s why I wasted my time explaining it to someone who made up their mind based on debate performances only, because it certainly isn’t substance and it definitely isn’t conviction.


817 posted on 02/22/2012 6:39:22 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: Red Steel

Notice how much time Paul burns as well. Moderator king asleep at the wheel. Were it not for Newt key issues would have been totally ignored tonight.


818 posted on 02/22/2012 6:39:34 PM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Jane Long

“Re: Santo’s voice...he’s pontificating profusely under pressure to be pertinent.
Emphasis on the “P”. “

PURRfectly said! Lol!! :)


819 posted on 02/22/2012 6:39:34 PM PST by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. Newt knows where all the bodies are buried, because he buried them.)
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To: Cato in PA

Santorum is not a good debater, but he does great with people, in person.

He should focus on his strengths, and they are considerable. Debate is not one of them, however.


820 posted on 02/22/2012 6:40:11 PM PST by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: All

This debate would be over in twenty minutes if all the candidates (except Paul) were allowed to say “I agree with Newt” after each question.


821 posted on 02/22/2012 6:40:23 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: MagUSNRET

Give Santorum 10 - 20 years and he’ll be a fantastic president.


822 posted on 02/22/2012 6:40:23 PM PST by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: Antoninus

Thank you!!!! I like Newt, but Santorum IS a conservative and a good man.

I don’t understand why everyone is attacking him, he’s on OUR side guys.


823 posted on 02/22/2012 6:40:23 PM PST by sandshark222
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To: All

Ron Paul just said $6/gallon in Florida today. Is that true? Anyone living Florida?


824 posted on 02/22/2012 6:40:30 PM PST by imchris
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To: Severa

Finally now that the debate is almost over.


825 posted on 02/22/2012 6:40:44 PM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Antoninus

Because it’s basically been a Romney/Santorum girlie slapfest. Paul and Newt have had little time to put forth any ideas.


826 posted on 02/22/2012 6:40:44 PM PST by Severa (I can't take this stress anymore...quick, get me a marker to sniff....)
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To: imchris; AmericanInTokyo

Ron Paul sounding like the crazy uncle in the attic - as usual - on foreign policy. WHEN will this idiot drop out of the race??


827 posted on 02/22/2012 6:40:52 PM PST by nutmeg
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To: Shortstop7
Newt: "This is an administration that as long as you're our enemy, you're safe."
828 posted on 02/22/2012 6:41:08 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: writer33

Debates are absolutely crucial to hearing the difference in the candidates. Santorum has come across as very weak on his “convictions” back tracked more than once.


829 posted on 02/22/2012 6:41:08 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: sandshark222

No discussion of oil because they all saw Newt’s 30 minutes where he talks at length about how to solve this nation’s energy problems and it terrifies them no end that he might get a chance to say ANY of it where a large audience might hear!


830 posted on 02/22/2012 6:41:20 PM PST by Advil000
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ok seriously tired of this pattern of hitting Newt with the hard question first so dumb a** romney can ride his coattails...pathetic!

And for the love of all things honest and decent left in the world, shut ron paul up regarding ANYTHING to do with Israel, the man is very very sick and crude.


831 posted on 02/22/2012 6:41:20 PM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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Oh jeez. Dick Santorum says, “Well, I’m principled, but sometimes you gotta take one for the team!”


832 posted on 02/22/2012 6:41:26 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: sandshark222

Because not everyone believes conviction is important. It’s really that simple.


833 posted on 02/22/2012 6:41:32 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: Red Steel

I said the same thing..we must both be brilliant. ha.


834 posted on 02/22/2012 6:41:32 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (NEWT in 2012)
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To: sandshark222

Sant is playing team game.


835 posted on 02/22/2012 6:41:46 PM PST by jennychase
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To: writer33

Okay.


836 posted on 02/22/2012 6:41:52 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Gator113; Marcella

Great Value Light Key Lime Pie Nonfat Yogurt

frozen

I put them in the freezer

Yummy

:)


837 posted on 02/22/2012 6:41:59 PM PST by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: GlockThe Vote

I ask the Rick supporters, to support Newt.

Rick was shown as a weak candidate.


838 posted on 02/22/2012 6:41:59 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: rodguy911

And that cooperate tax 28% bull is only to get more in taxes,
from 35% to 28% ends up in a net gain, when
it should be at least revenue neutral percentile to not hurt business more.


839 posted on 02/22/2012 6:42:10 PM PST by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: imchris

I thought the same thing. Is Paul talking out his ARSE again?


840 posted on 02/22/2012 6:42:16 PM PST by Artcore
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To: Antoninus

Rick Santorum devolved into a personal policy debate with Romney which he did not win and even worse was unable to control the conversation. When a debater like Gingrich is able to take any steering and put Obama clearly behind the problem, the rest of the panel loses. One Winner, Two Losers, and the Gyno in the attic.


841 posted on 02/22/2012 6:42:27 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: writer33

Ouch!....excellent response...


842 posted on 02/22/2012 6:42:29 PM PST by matginzac
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To: writer33
Now “no child left behind” OMG! Gas prices please. BO is coming on TV tomorrow night to lie about all the drilling he's done. Newt needs to get on this to diffuse his lies that are coming.
843 posted on 02/22/2012 6:42:31 PM PST by dandiegirl
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To: sandshark222

Rick just sunk himself. Politics is team sport so leave your convictions at the door.


844 posted on 02/22/2012 6:42:31 PM PST by freemarketsfreeminds
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To: Vision
Give Santorum 10 - 20 years and he’ll be a fantastic president.

Well, he is really sucking at the moment.

845 posted on 02/22/2012 6:42:46 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: parksstp

Did I miss the question on Energy?


846 posted on 02/22/2012 6:42:46 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: Antoninus

[Watching supposed conservatives bash a conservative stalwart like Rick Santorum ]

Nothing wrong with Santorum personally, but he is clearly a second tier candidate compared to Newt. He just stayed out of the target long enough to be still standing.


847 posted on 02/22/2012 6:42:52 PM PST by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Tonights debate should have reminded the voters of just how weak and unqualified for the job Santorum really is.

My goodness, if Romney can shake Ricky up, imagine what Obama would do to this prattling rookie.

President Newt Gingrich—”Our beloved republic deserves nothing less.”


848 posted on 02/22/2012 6:42:56 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. President Newt Gingrich--"Our beloved republic deserves nothing less.")
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To: sandshark222
Newt's a conservative AND a good man, too.

Santo has hurt himself, tonight, with his inferior debating skills.

849 posted on 02/22/2012 6:42:56 PM PST by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: nutmeg

We have......the richest, the holiest,, the smartest, the craziest.......which one u going to chose?


850 posted on 02/22/2012 6:43:03 PM PST by Toespi
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