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Surprise! California Tilts Right of Center
NBC Bay Area ^ | Tuesday, Mar 6, 2012 | Joe Mathews

Posted on 03/06/2012 7:38:14 PM PST by nickcarraway

A fine new report from the Public Policy Institute of California updates what we know about the state's political geography.

For decades, the political divide in California was between the Democratic north and the Republican south. But in recent times, analysts have talked about a blue Democratic coast vs. the red Republican inland.

PPIC's new report concludes that the coast vs. inland explanation isn't exactly right.

When you dig deeply into the numbers, the state's real political divide puts the two former rivals -- Los Angeles County and the Bay Area -- on one side of the partisan divide, and the rest of the state on the other.

Even more intriguing, PPIC finds that while the state has become more Democratic, California is really only as liberal as its reputations in the Bay Area.

"In the rest of the state, even in Los Angeles County," says the report. "California is more conservative and less consistently defined by geography than conventional wisdom would sometimes suggest."

Indeed, on an ideological scale, public opinion data show the average Californians in the middle and "leaning slighty conservative."

We're right of center!

This could be an opportunity for Republicans. But many moderates and conservaitve support the Democratic party. And altering this could be hard because the Republican party may be too small an ideologically rigid to reach out.

The full report is here.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: cagop; california; conservative; geography; joemathews; kenyanbornmuzzie; mittromney; newtgingrich; ppic; ricksantorum
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1 posted on 03/06/2012 7:38:21 PM PST by nickcarraway
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Hmmmmm....is Admiral Akbar in the background?


2 posted on 03/06/2012 7:43:02 PM PST by ak267
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To: nickcarraway

The dems have the hippy, gay, minority and douchebag vote here but the rest of us can still tell $hit from Shinola, thank you very much.


3 posted on 03/06/2012 7:43:11 PM PST by Bullish
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To: nickcarraway

If gozilla stomped flat the first 10 miles fom the beach to indland, Calif might as well be Wyoming.

If you smell salt, well, that’s fruits ‘n nuts territory.


4 posted on 03/06/2012 7:44:35 PM PST by gaijin
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To: ak267

Who cares? Even most Republicans in California are to the left of Karl Marx.


5 posted on 03/06/2012 7:45:08 PM PST by Eleven Bravo 6 319thID
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To: nickcarraway

Then why do they keep re-electing that marxist harpie Barbara Boxer to the Senate? Why did they elect Governor Moonbeam? How do you account for Henry Waxman? Why is the Legislature run by communists and illegal aliens/Atzlan advocates? What about the monumentally left-wing traitorous mayor of Los Angeles? I call BS on this whole preposterous thing.


6 posted on 03/06/2012 7:45:49 PM PST by La Lydia
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To: nickcarraway

It’s a lot more granular than you think.

Go to a parking lot in Berkeley (Alameda County) and count the BO bumper stickers.

Now go to Walnut Creek (just one county over and a 20-minute drive on a good day) and look for BO bumper stickers.

See any?

Better yet, go to the Rockridge BART station (one mile south of Berkeley) (Oakland) and look for BO bumper stickers on a weekday.

See any? (Bear in mind the owners of those cars are AT WORK.)


7 posted on 03/06/2012 7:46:23 PM PST by thecodont
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To: nickcarraway

Reaction #1: I think most Frenchmen are to the right of the average Californian.

Reaction #2: Center right? Why is the entire government of California from National level on down run by liberals?


8 posted on 03/06/2012 7:47:16 PM PST by Tzimisce (this sucks)
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To: nickcarraway

AS someone born and raised in California all I can say is, what California are they talking about, because its not where I live?


9 posted on 03/06/2012 7:47:24 PM PST by svcw (Only difference between Romney & BH is one thinks he will be god & other one thinks he already is.)
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To: nickcarraway

In my observation it is more subtle than that,

I think a LOT of Californians are realistically conservative on fiscal issues (and annoyed to horrified by the irresponsibility of our legislature as any person should be) but much to the left on social issues, environment, homosexuality (prop 8 was really more a phenomena of a very well organized Mormon and Catholic coalition than widespread dislike of homosexuality), cannabis and interventionist foreign policy ( I do not know of anyone who actually gives a crap about Syria, for example).

Think of the typical ‘conservative’ as a hippie, or ex hippie, who now owns a business and has to pay taxes and deal with OSHA; not at all down with the “morality brigades” of the Bible Belt but justifiably suspicious of big government.

That is why Arnold played so well; he was in a lot of ways a typical blend of Californian values, fiscally conservative but socially liberal (that he proved to be an incompetent and dishonest putz is besides the point, they all roll that way out here but the time they get to sacto)


10 posted on 03/06/2012 7:50:07 PM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: nickcarraway

Hogwash. In the densely populated areas, the liberals are THICK! Where the population is widely dispersed, it’s a mixed bag with a conservative edge, but not so very wide an edge as this report would have you think. It’s a lot like the rest of this country.
We’re doomed barring revival.


11 posted on 03/06/2012 7:50:41 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Let's roll on this gunwalking thing already! NRA <BCC><)
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To: La Lydia

Easy. Because the CA GOP is left-wing and does all it can to sabotage Conservatives. If the state party actually offered a real, substantive choice and stopped trying to echo the Communist Democrat party it might actually start to win again.


12 posted on 03/06/2012 7:50:41 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj
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I can’t imagine the problems they are going to have once the Panama Canal is enhanced and Georgia’s Savannah port and other east coast ports are deepened and enhanced.

If we maintain a “right to work” and keep the terroristic port unions out (isn’t it ironic that the terroristic OWS thugs are shutting down California ports on wimps?) then Kalifornia is sunk and will have to get their affairs in order.


13 posted on 03/06/2012 7:51:57 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: RedStateRocker

‘Cept Arnie wasn’t fiscally Conservative. He made Davis look like a spendthrift tightwad. He was an across-the-board Socialist.


14 posted on 03/06/2012 7:52:46 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Reagan won. If Obama lost Cali, then he has ZERO chance of winning 2012.


15 posted on 03/06/2012 7:53:10 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: nickcarraway

IMHO, this just one of those stories to suck the ‘pubs into wasting $$$ on campaigning in kali-fornia.


16 posted on 03/06/2012 7:53:40 PM PST by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Well, he played one at election time :-)


17 posted on 03/06/2012 7:54:36 PM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

‘Cept he won his first term as Governor in 1966. If the CA GOP was run by Tom McClintock types, the party and the state would be in far better shape today.


18 posted on 03/06/2012 7:57:00 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj
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To: dynachrome
Maybe, but if things are truly bad enough economically, then the populous will look for real change. It won't matter how much the media and Obama talk up the economy.

People hurting look for responsible adults to fix things.

19 posted on 03/06/2012 7:57:14 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: Bullish
The dems have the hippy, gay, minority and douchebag vote here

For brevity's sake, we shall henceforth refer to it as the "Asshat" vote....

20 posted on 03/06/2012 7:57:21 PM PST by freebilly (Obama Sings While America Sinks....)
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