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The Rush Limbaugh LIVE Radio Show Thread - Thursday, March 8, 2012

Posted on 03/08/2012 7:42:18 AM PST by IMissPresidentReagan

Quick post Hubby's grandmother is not doing well so off to see her. Please send prayers. She's a real gem!


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cholesterol; heartdisease; lundell; rushlimbaugh; rushlive; talkradio
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To: Excellence

Not that good. And this took me 5 minutes.

Dr. Stephen Barrett of Quackwatch Exposed In Court Cases

At trial, under a heated cross-examination by Negrete, Barrett conceded that he was not a Medical Board Certified psychiatrist because he had failed the certification exam.

This was a major revelation since Barrett had provided supposed expert testimony as a psychiatrist and had testified in numerous court cases. Barrett also had said that he was a legal expert even though he had no formal legal training.

The most damning testimony before the jury, under the intense cross-examination by Negrete, was that Barrett had filed similar defamation lawsuits against almost 40 people across the country within the past few years and had not won one single one at trial.

Subject: Quackwatch Founder Stephen Barrett loses Major Defamation trial in Hometown

In a stunning development, Lehigh Valley Pennsylvania Judge J. Brian Johnson on Thursday, October 13, 2005, tossed out nationally known self-proclaimed ‘consumer medical advocate’ Stephen Barrett’s defamation lawsuit just minutes before it was going to be considered by a local jury.

The lawsuit, filed in August 2002, against also nationally known Pennsylvania chiropractor, lecturer, researcher and publisher, Stephen Barrett sought unspecified damages against Koren and his company, Koren Publications, Inc. for statements that he wrote in his newsletter in 2001 about Barrett.

Barrett, a long-time nemesis of chiropractic, filed the lawsuit because of Koren’s publication that Barrett was ‘licensed’ and in trouble because of a $10 million lawsuit and because Barrett was called a ‘Quackpot’.

In his defense, Koren contended that the statements were true and not defamatory and that he had a First Amendment right to write them in his newsletter.

Thursday’s ruling by Judge Johnson represented a major reversal of the finding of an arbitration in August 2004 wherein a panel of three local private attorneys reviewing the case had found in favor of Barrett and awarded Barrett $16,500 in damages and that Koren should publish a retraction. That award was appealed by Koren.

Dr. Koren was represented by well-known health freedom San Juan Capistrano, California, attorney Carlos F. Negrete for trial and Washington, D.C. attorney James Turner of Swankin & Turner. Easton, Pennsylvania attorney Christopher Reid of Laub, Seidel, Cohen, Hof & Reid served as local counsel for the team and was co-counsel for the trial along with Negrete.

Turner and Negrete have been well known for their representation of clients in the health food, supplement and vitamin industries as well as representing naturopaths, nurses, dentists, physicians, chiropractors and complimentary therapists across the country.

Turner’s experience dates back the 1960s when he joined consumer advocate Ralph Nader and was one of the groundbreaking Nader’s Raiders that made consumer advocacy popular and brought about significant changes in manufacturing and consumer protection.

In making the ruling to throw out the case, Judge Johnson granted a rare directed verdict to the jury finding there was insufficient evidence to support Barrett’s claims. Judge Johnson indicated that this case was one of those rare times where such a motion was appropriate.

Barrett operates the web site www.quackwatch.org , www.chirobase.org and 20 other web sites and has been a long time critic of chiropractic calling much of it”quackery”.

The victory to chiropractor Koren comes almost 18 years to the date that chiropractors received national attention with their victory against the American Medical Association (AMA) by obtaining an injunction against the AMA from an Illinois federal judge for engaging in illegal boycotting of doctors chiropractic in Wilk et al vs. AMA.

Barrett had been an outspoken supporter of the AMA at the same time that Koren had been a vocal advocate that the AMA has, in recent years, violated the spirit of the federal judge’s order.

After the ruling, Koren proclaimed that: I am overjoyed and enthusiastic that this nightmare is over and that the science, art and philosophy of chiropractic and the work of all of my colleagues have been vindicated.

“This case took a toll on my life and family, but I knew that I was right in publishing the truth.”

Dr. Barrett has no right to misinform the public about chiropractic and other natural healing arts or to try to silence anyone who criticizes him or tell consumers that he is not what he purports to be.

“I believe that it is not right to be silent when there is a duty to inform the public and let the truth be told.”

For years, Barrett has touted himself as a medical expert on ‘quackery’ in healthcare and has assisted in dozens of court cases as an expert. He also was called upon by the FDA, FTC and other governmental agencies for his purported expertise.

He was the subject of many magazine interviews, including Time Magazine and featured on television interviews on ABC’s 20/20, NBC’s Today Show and PBS.

He has gained media fame by his outspoken vocal disgust and impatience over natural or non-medical healthcare, including his criticisms of two time Nobel Prize winner Linus Pauling.

Dr. Tedd Koren is known for his writings and lectures on chiropractic science, research, philosophy, and chiropractic patient adjusting.

He is known for his Koren Publications chiropractic patient education brochures, posters, booklets, books and other products that are used in chiropractors’ offices throughout the United States and around the world.

Dr. Koren also co-founded a chiropractic college, is on the extension faculty of two chiropractic colleges, is published in chiropractic and bio-medical journals and has received numerous awards in his field. His web sites include www.korenpublications.com and www.teddkorenseminars.com

In his 2001 newsletter, Koren published articles that revealed that even though he touted himself as a medical expert, Barrett had not been a licensed physician since the early 1990s.

He also published that Barrett had been the subject of a $10 million racketeering lawsuit [that had been withdrawn] and called him a ‘quackpot’ for the contradiction of his website and lack of credentials.

Koren’s trial attorney, Carlos F. Negrete of San Juan Capistrano, California, is known for his defense of physicians, chiropractors, dentists, clinics and natural heath providers who practice what is known as complimentary & alternative medicine and holistic healthcare. Negrete has also handled groundbreaking cases against HMOs in California and has represented many celebrities and politicians.

At trial, under a heated cross-examination by Negrete, Barrett conceded that he was not a Medical Board Certified psychiatrist because he had failed the certification exam.

This was a major revelation since Barrett had provided supposed expert testimony as a psychiatrist and had testified in numerous court cases.

Barrett also had said that he was a legal expert even though he had no formal legal training.

The most damming testimony before the jury, under the intense cross-examination by Negrete, was that Barrett had filed similar defamation lawsuits against almost 40 people across the country within the past few years and had not won one single one at trial.

During the course of his examination, Barrett also had to concede his ties to the AMA, Federal Trade Commission (FTC) and Food & Drug Administration (FDA).

This was not the first time that Negrete was a trial attorney in a Barrett case. He also represented anti-fluoridation advocate Darlene Sherrell in a federal lawsuit filed in Eugene, Oregon by Barrett.

Barrett also lost in trial of that case. Negrete also represented Robert King of King Bio Natural Medicine of North Carolina and MediaPower (manufacturers of CalMax and Nu-Zymes) of Maine in cases filed by an organization led by Barrett, which were lost by Barrett’s organization.

Barrett has also filed a lawsuit against Negrete and his client Dr. Hulda Clark (author of The Cure for All Diseases and The Cure for All Cancers) , which is now pending and awaiting trial in San Diego, California federal court.

After the Koren trial, Negrete stated: “The de-bunker has been de-bunked. I am pleased and satisfied with this outcome for Dr. Koren and am proud that Dr. Koren did not succumb to the pressures of the intimidation of Barrett’s legal wrangling. Not everyone can stand up to someone as well known as Barrett.”

Negrete continued, “It is another great day for health freedom and alternative healthcare around the world. I am especially pleased that this most important victory was in Barrett’s own hometown. It just goes to show you that there is justice anywhere, even when you are a visitor challenging the home team.

Barrett is a shill for the medical and pharmaceutical cartels and his bully tactics and unjustified discrediting of leading innovators, scientists and health practitioners should not be tolerated.”

Negrete said, “You can be assured that our legal team will be wherever health freedom advocates and practitioners are being persecuted. The tide is now turning and people are no long accepting that synthetic drugs are the only form of treatment are the only way to address health concerns.

“Every day, consumers are becoming more educated about the benefits of holistic and alternative methods. This is something that the medical establishment obviously fears and wants to crush with false propaganda.”

Koren said that he would now go back to his home in Pennsylvania to spend more time with his family and continue to write, research, and lecture on topics concerning chiropractic and healthcare and the experiences he has gained from this precedent setting legal battle.

He plans to give new lectures to chiropractors across the country who are under attack or have been subjected to governmental actions.

He also announced that he is forming a new organization aimed at informing and assisting chiropractors across the country.

The trial started on Monday, October 10, 2005 and ended on October 13, 2005 Barrett was represented by local Allentown attorney, Richard Orloski.

http://www.canlyme.com/quackwatch.html


81 posted on 03/08/2012 11:00:43 AM PST by bluerose (Newt Gingrich or Santorum and Col. Allen West for VP!)
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To: bluerose

There are many reasons for losing a license. The facts are still facts. Agreed.


82 posted on 03/08/2012 11:08:23 AM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: bluerose

Good work, bluerose. I think that what the good Dr. Lundell says is probably true (although I am no doctor, nor do I play one on TV.) I dislike self-appointed truth policemen, like this Dr. Barrett, a psychiatrist who does not have the depth of knowledge to be trustworthy on a subject such as this.


83 posted on 03/08/2012 11:10:19 AM PST by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: Biggirl

Crying towel?


84 posted on 03/08/2012 11:12:21 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: bluerose
Between 2000 and 2008, Lundell was subjected to five regulatory actions by the Arizona Medical Board: In 2000, the board concluded that his postoperative management of a patient who died following carotid artery surgery was substandard and insufficiently documented. He was censured for unprofessional conduct, assessed a $2,500 civil penalty, and placed on probation during which he was required to take continuing medical education courses in carotid artery surgery and medical recordkeeping. He was also required to submit to monitoring of his patient records [4].

In 2003, the board noted that 13 out of 20 charts reviewed by the consultant were deficient because they did not include adequate initial evaluations of the patients. Lundell was censured again and was placed on probation that included quarterly chart reviews [5].

In 2004, the board found fault with his management of two patients and concluded that his records for these patients were inadequate. He was reprimanded and ordered to serve two more years of probation, during which he was required to undergo an extensive evaluation of his fitness to continue practicing medicine [6].

In 2006, the board sent him an advisory letter for failure to maintain adequate records and for a technical surgical error [7].

In 2008, the board reviewed Lundell's management of several more patients and revoked his medical license. The board's order indicated that the board began investigating his care of seven patients after the Banner Desert Medical Hospital suspended Lundell's surgical privileges [7].

Financial and Legal Trouble

And that doesn't include the bankruptcies, and tax evations. This is more than bad record keeping and a couple of complaints, including the dead guy.

I just think Rush should have vetted the guy first before getting behind it. It may come back to bite him.

85 posted on 03/08/2012 11:13:16 AM PST by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: IMissPresidentReagan
Quick post Hubby's grandmother is not doing well so off to see her. Please send prayers. She's a real gem!

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Prayers to her...

Hello all busy week @ work...

86 posted on 03/08/2012 11:22:33 AM PST by ExCTCitizen (If we stay home in November '12, don't blame 0 for tearing up the CONSTITUTION!!)
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To: Biggirl
Good morning/afternoon,

megaBiggirlToListenToUConnMenTakeOnSyracusedittos from Biggirl. PING!:)=^..^=

Who's winning?? Will history repeat itself??

87 posted on 03/08/2012 11:23:49 AM PST by ExCTCitizen (If we stay home in November '12, don't blame 0 for tearing up the CONSTITUTION!!)
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To: Defiant

Thanks and I think Barret should add himself to his list:

“At trial, under a heated cross-examination by Negrete, Barrett conceded that he was not a Medical Board Certified psychiatrist because he had failed the certification exam. “


88 posted on 03/08/2012 11:27:05 AM PST by bluerose (Newt Gingrich or Santorum and Col. Allen West for VP!)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom
mathematically Romney CANNOT LOSE??? He. Is. It?

Obama or a RINO LIBERAL?? God BLESS the USA... we need it!!!

89 posted on 03/08/2012 11:27:36 AM PST by ExCTCitizen (If we stay home in November '12, don't blame 0 for tearing up the CONSTITUTION!!)
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To: American Quilter

I love my Rav4 too!! great little SUV


90 posted on 03/08/2012 11:29:29 AM PST by Sammie42 (Will Rogers never met Obama)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom
Energy Secretary, Steven Chu, does NOT own a car.

Where do they find these people?

They get them in the LIBERAL version of the ZOO...the Universities!!!

91 posted on 03/08/2012 11:32:31 AM PST by ExCTCitizen (If we stay home in November '12, don't blame 0 for tearing up the CONSTITUTION!!)
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To: Excellence

Yes, I saw and read that the first time. Did you see my post on Barrett? Here’s another:

Quackbusters Are Busted!
Though they seem to have more lives than a cat, it seems likely that Quackbusters will be down for the count.
by Heidi Stevenson

25 July 2010

excerpt;

Stephen Barrett is a retired psychiatrist and hires himself out as an “expert” to testify against non-mainstream medical practitioners. He is a retired psychiatrist, though he was never certified because he didn’t pass the board examinations. In America, once licensed as a physician, it’s legal to practice any type of medicine desired. Simply take a look at the storefront self-styled plastic surgeons doing liposuction and other plastic surgery.

Barrett was terminated from a part time position by the Pennsylvania State Mental Hospital in 1993 and, in a profession that has supposedly been very short staffed for more than two decades, he was unable to find work. He turned his medical license in and retreated—some say to his basement.

Please understand that I would never make fun of someone’s misfortunes in normal circumstances. In Barrett’s case, though, an exception needs to be made. He has done enormous harm to anyone who advocates or practices non-mainstream medicine. He has hired himself out as an expert to testify against such practitioners, and he has been the mouthpiece for Big Pharma’s attack on anything that isn’t manufactured and sold by them.

In other words, the California Supreme Court found that Barrett and Sampson were using the court system to operate a self-enrichment scam! Barrett and his partner in crime, Sampson, were attempting to enrich themselves by destroying the reputations and livelihoods of alternative healthcare practitioners.

In Canada, Barrett admitted to claims made by a plaintiff(3) that:

The sole purpose of the activities of Barrett & Baratz are to discredit and cause damage and harm to health care practitioners, businesses that make alternative health therapies or products available, and advocates of non-allopathic therapies and health freedom.

Barrett has interfered with the civil rights of numerous Americans, in his efforts to have his critics silenced.

Barrett has strategically orchestrated the filing of legal actions in improper jurisdictions for the purpose of frustrating the victims of such lawsuits and increasing his victims costs.

Barrett failed the exams he was required to pass to become a Board Certified Medical Doctor.

Stephen Barrett founded and has been the figurehead of Quackbusters since its inception. What more should anyone require to acknowledge Quackbusters’ lack of their authenticity?
Where Has Barrett’s—and Quackbusters’—Funding Come From?

Barrett has launched at least 14 expensive legal actions at a single time, cases that can be assumed to cost at least $100,000 each to pursue. In the Federal Court in Oregon, he was forced to respond to questions about his income.

In two years’ time, Barrett had made a total of $54,000.

Where did Barrett get the money to pursue so many cases? Thus far, no one seems to have found the hard proof, but it’s obvious that the backing for his nefarious machinations has been Big Pharma and Big Medicine, which seek to drive any and all competition out of business and make them illegal.

http://www.gaia-health.com/articles251/000277-quackbusters-are-busted.shtml


92 posted on 03/08/2012 11:37:06 AM PST by bluerose (Newt Gingrich or Santorum and Col. Allen West for VP!)
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To: ExCTCitizen

Chu doesn’t need to own a car.

He’s riding around in the very highest style (and expense) all on our great-grandkids’ very last dime.

(And I’d kinda like to stop by next January and take every bit of it out of his hide.)


93 posted on 03/08/2012 11:37:19 AM PST by Unrepentant VN Vet ((316 and a wakeup) Truth, I know, always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition.)
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To: ExCTCitizen

he has others drive him .....


94 posted on 03/08/2012 11:39:26 AM PST by malia
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To: ExCTCitizen

UConn lost. Oh well.


95 posted on 03/08/2012 11:40:34 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: who knows what evil?

Syracuse won, but it was a fun down to the wire game.


96 posted on 03/08/2012 11:42:14 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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Romney is a moderate at best and he is proclaimed as a right-wing radical by leftists! Exactly, Rush!!

Rush now asking who was the last great Republican Moderate who ran on a campaign of moderation and won. Says that Nixon was the last and boy, did the left love him! He blew up govt and what did the left do? Brought about impeachment.


97 posted on 03/08/2012 11:44:00 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (We the People are coming!!)
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To: Biggirl

Yes, it was...many fingernails were lost on both sides. :-)


98 posted on 03/08/2012 11:44:50 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: who knows what evil?

Voted for John Effing Kerry and supports Santorum?

I call BS!


99 posted on 03/08/2012 11:46:35 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: bluerose

I’m taking everything with a grain of salt. My ex takes these medicines, and for a while his feet were so swollen he couldn’t wear socks, wearing them hurt so bad. And he seemed exhausted all the time. On the other hand, the blood pressure attack damn near killed him. If I’m going to recommend something to him, it needs to be perfectly correct. His life is, literally, at stake.

Now Rush is doing a Life Lock ad. I guess they are still with him.


100 posted on 03/08/2012 11:52:23 AM PST by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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