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Families' exodus leaves S.F. with lowest pct. of children in U.S.
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 3/9/12 | Heather Knight

Posted on 03/09/2012 7:37:04 AM PST by SmithL

Last year, a family of three earning $111,000 a year could afford just 23 percent of homes for sale in San Francisco - mostly in southern neighborhoods, including Bayview-Hunters Point.

The median price of a house in the city in 2010 was $668,000. Just 2 percent of new housing units built in the city since 2001 are single-family, detached homes.

These were just a few of the scores of statistics presented at a special Board of Supervisors hearing Thursday to help explain why San Francisco is bleeding families with children - losing 5,278 people younger than 18 between 2000 and 2010, according to census figures.

There are actually about 3,000 more children younger than 5 in the city than there were in 2000, but about 8,000 fewer school-age youths.

The flight of families with children - particularly middle-income and African American families - is leaving San Francisco older, whiter and richer. That has concerned city officials and family advocates who say families with children are essential to a diverse, thriving city.

Keeping city diverse

"This has been a personal issue for me for quite some time," said Supervisor Mark Farrell, who called the hearing and said his two young children are losing lots of their friends to the suburbs - and that his own adult friends are increasingly moving.

"Keeping families in San Francisco is important for a diverse city," he said. "Having children in our parks and our schools and strollers on our sidewalks is important to the vibrancy of our neighborhoods."

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; US: California
KEYWORDS: antifamilies; itsforthechildren; sanfranciscovalues
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To: buwaya
The impediments to more people staying and raising children are indeed due mainly to the obsessions and failures of liberal politics

And the majority of all voters vote to keep liberal politicians in power. I'm not throwing stones (I live in Illinois) or casting aspersions on all the people of S.F. but like Illinois, S.F. liberal politicians are elected by the majority.

Our perverts and other liberals are generally confined to one huge city.

81 posted on 03/09/2012 12:23:10 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Eccl 10 v. 19 A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things.)
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To: Graybeard58

In this case, they are elected by a minority. Most SF adults don’t vote, much less so than in most other cities.

Out of 700,000 adults, only 460,000 are registered voters. In the last mayoral election only 284,000 voted.

SF politics is dominated by the few, political obsessives and the government bureaucracy and its hangers-on.


82 posted on 03/09/2012 12:36:51 PM PST by buwaya
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To: SmithL

I love visiting San Francisco. Great city but no way in hell I would live there. Way to screwed up thanks to the nutbag liberals.


83 posted on 03/09/2012 12:43:42 PM PST by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: buwaya
In this case, they are elected by a minority. Most SF adults don’t vote, much less so than in most other cities.

Which verifies my earlier statement:

Quoting self - And the majority of all voters vote to keep liberal politicians in power

In my case, the voters here in, "other than Chicago", vote overwhelmingly conservative. Chicago politics rule the entire state because of its numbers.

By the way, you couldn't pay me to live in the crap hole of Chicago either. I'm about 200 miles from there. and am looking for real estate in Missouri, where it's not a felony to think about guns.

84 posted on 03/09/2012 12:59:20 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Eccl 10 v. 19 A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things.)
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To: SmithL
"Keeping families in San Francisco is important for a diverse city," he said. "Having children in our parks and our schools and strollers on our sidewalks is important to the vibrancy of our neighborhoods."

Put the gays back in the closet
Put the bums back in nut houses
Make San Francisco a military friendly town again
Lower the cost of living there

Maybe, just maybe, people will stay

85 posted on 03/09/2012 1:56:26 PM PST by hattend (Jesus wants me to make churches pay for abortions. - Barack Obama)
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To: taterjay

Heh, heh, heh...

Or, you can leave, but your kids have to remain behind and stand in the front window of a bath-house, until they are adopted.

Now there’s food for thought.


86 posted on 03/09/2012 1:57:18 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Abortion? No. Gov't heath care? No. Gore on warming? No. McCain on immigration? No.)
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To: weeweed

OK, so how many folks are going to know what movie that’s from?

Only those with kids that choose older, more wholesome movies, of course.

(admission - when we hear the ice cream truck’s music, I tell my kids that it’s the child catcher - they’re in on the joke)


87 posted on 03/09/2012 2:04:25 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Mine do - It was their favorite at one time.
They can still sing the songs, 10 years later.


88 posted on 03/09/2012 2:26:34 PM PST by buwaya
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To: buwaya
It is plain fanaticism, by the way, to condemn people who don’t vote our way.

Garbage. The people who run your city are not garden-variety Democrats; they are criminally insane, and they obviously reflect the values of those who support them. BTW, watch your kids CAREFULLY when they interact with all those nice neighbors.

89 posted on 03/09/2012 2:51:09 PM PST by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: madprof98

Nuts.
Do I believe you or my own lying eyes ?

There are certainly insane people living here and some of them have political power. But the vast majority here are perfectly sane and decent.


90 posted on 03/09/2012 3:23:28 PM PST by buwaya
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90 posted on Friday, March 09, 2012 5:23:28 PM by buwaya: “There are certainly insane people living here and some of them have political power. But the vast majority here are perfectly sane and decent.”

Which, brother Freeper, provides you an opportunity.

People who live in places like San Francisco have special responsibilities to speak out. Sometimes they can be effective far beyond anyone’s wildest imaginations.

Let me give you two examples which on their face are very different, but actually have much in common — in one case, one church and in the other case one man, each standing up against liberalism and winning by speaking truth to overwhelming power.

First Orthodox Presbyterian Church of San Francisco managed to win a landmark court case when it was sued for firing its practicing homosexual organist. Standing up to evil worked. By not compromising on the reasons for firing the organist, the church risked losing virtually every right Christians have to control their own hiring practices for religious grounds, and for that reason, many people urged the church's leaders to find some other excuse to fire him. However, sticking to their guns won the victory that Christian institutions now rely on throughout the entire United States to exempt themselves from anti-religious rules, and that case was won right in the heartbed of the American gay agenda.

The second case involved not the OPC but rather the PCUS, the old Southern Presbyterian Church.

Many decades ago before the PCA was formed, back when the old Southern Presbyterian Church was still mostly conservative, the Atlanta Presbytery was the center of the denominational bureaucracy and was run by leftists trying to force a merger with the (Northern) Presbyterian Church in the USA and the United Presbyterian Church in North America.

Various conservative presbyteries were voting against the merger, but one man had a brilliant idea. He went from town to town through the Atlanta Presbytery visiting small churches that rarely sent elders to presbytery, explained what merger would mean, and got lots of previously unaware elders riled up enough to come to the Atlanta Presbytery meeting when the merger was scheduled for a vote.

Those elders stayed quiet all morning and most of the afternoon until the vote. Then, to the shock of virtually the entire denomination, the most powerful liberal presbytery in the entire PCUS went on record **AGAINST** the merger. As the shock waves ran across the denomination, people realized that the vast majority of the people in the pews were against the merger no matter what the leaders were claiming, and presbytery after presbytery went on record against the merger. While the PCUSA and UPCNA did merge to form the UPCUSA, that success in the Atlanta Presbytery, caused by one man who successfully warned the silent majority to speak up, kept the PCUS out of the merger with Northern Presbyterians for another generation until the merger was finally forced in the 1980s.

All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. You're telling me there are lots of good men and women in San Francisco who don't vote, and you're probably right.

Sounds like you have some work to do with your nice neighbors.... ;-)

91 posted on 03/09/2012 9:36:02 PM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: morphing libertarian

I flew into SFO Airport for a week further north. When I departed I got there a few hours early.. about 5 a.m. and had about an hour to kill before turning in the rental car.

I parked the vehicle in downtown Burlingame and walked around the old town area. Nothing was open but the Starbucks, but the weather was great that morning for walking. Downtown Burlingame is a beautiful area with interesting architecture. It reminded me of old postcard images of bygone California.

Talked to a few of the locals while getting a coffee and they seemed pretty down-to-earth and friendly. I suspect Burlingame is one of those locales to which families have fled.


92 posted on 03/10/2012 2:34:06 AM PST by ScottinVA (GOP, meet Courage... Courage, meet GOP.)
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To: Lancey Howard
I maintain that anybody who deliberately takes a child into San Fransicko should be jailed for child abuse.

Wrong.

Visits to the De Young, the Symphony, the Ballet, the Maritime Museum, the Palace of the Legion of Honor, the Opera, the Asian Art Museum... They're good and well worth a visit.

The exposure to the sickos along the way is part of educating them why theirs is a lifestyle to be avoided. The kids recoil all on their own. Keeping it a dark mystery can make it an attraction later on. Bad idea.

93 posted on 03/10/2012 7:00:27 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The RNC would prefer Obama to a conservative nominee.)
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To: ScottinVA

Thanx


94 posted on 03/10/2012 8:05:18 AM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: buwaya
"Even this city is 90+% composed of perfectly normal, decent people. The rest are more flamboyant sinners than most."

Ummm... I rest my case I suppose...

95 posted on 06/05/2012 3:35:44 PM PDT by Desron13
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