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Michelle: ‘Let’s Move;’ Sebelius: No, Let’s Not
CNSNews.com ^ | Bannister | Craig

Posted on 03/13/2012 7:36:05 AM PDT by CNSNews.com

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To: MrB

“delivering staple food items in poor neighborhoods
anyone else see the inherent problem with this? “

Hmmm—staples like the crap one can buy with foodstamps like chips, cookies, pizza, etc?


61 posted on 03/13/2012 8:56:46 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: freeangel

Yep, you get the point -

if they received some veggies, raw hamburger, a bag of flour, a bag of sugar, a dozen eggs, and a gallon of milk,

they’d say “where’s the food?”


62 posted on 03/13/2012 8:58:43 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Silentgypsy

Mandatory?.....Hell, we'll all be living out of shopping carts before too long!..............

63 posted on 03/13/2012 8:58:43 AM PDT by Red Badger (If the Government can make you buy health insurance, they can make you buy a Volt................)
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To: Sherman Logan
Most people can carry 40 pounds a mile or two without great difficulty. With a decent backpack.

You're talking about a serious, "go-camping-in-the-wilderness" backpack...not a typical size one that a student might use for carrying books, or a cyclist might have.

Even if I agreed with your proposition that "most people" could carry 40 lbs. The idea is preposterous because it's impractical to do this on a routine basis.

I live in a suburban locale, about 15 minutes from a mid-western city. It's by no means remote. However, it would be a two-mile walk one-way to the grocery store. Sidewalks would be pretty much non-existent outside of my neighborhood, and I'd have to cross 4 lanes of traffic where no crosswalks were anticipated.

But let's say I ignored the safety issues present, and walked anyway. I'd still be faced with a minimum of a 30-minute walk to the store, and that would be hoofing it. 30 minutes to walk to the store, another 45-60 minutes to shop (average time), and probably 45 minutes back to my house. If I planned correctly, I could do this on the weekend, but that's 2.5-3 hours wasted.

If we got to some post-apocalyptic version of our country and I had to do this to survive, I would. But now, why? We live in a country where we shouldn't have to walk 5 miles to the "community well" for fresh water. It's called civilization, which should be the by-product of our hard work, productivity, and ingenuity.

64 posted on 03/13/2012 9:11:49 AM PDT by Lou L (The Senate without a filibuster is just a 100-member version of the House.)
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To: Sherman Logan; Lou L
Most people can carry 40 pounds a mile or two without great difficulty. With a decent backpack.

LOL. Have you seen the physical shape of the average American? Granted it's easier to carry 40 lbs in a backback but the average American could not do it at that.

Heck the average American can't walk a mile without a backpack.

65 posted on 03/13/2012 9:26:42 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: CNSNews.com
Raging Rearex Mooselle: "I wish I could eat french fries every single day..."

"...and if you think I'm gonna use a bicycle basket or backpack or pull-cart to git my fries to my mouth, you got another thing comin' to you, you little hoi polloi peons.

66 posted on 03/13/2012 9:32:32 AM PDT by Miss Behave (All ways always.)
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To: Grams A

Same here - does that mean I’m old?


67 posted on 03/13/2012 9:32:32 AM PDT by mykroar (Ray: "You drank too much."...Archer: "That's a thing?!?")
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To: Joe the Pimpernel

When I was young and my son was old enough to walk, we would walk a mile to the supermarket closest to our apartment house and bring groceries back in a backpack and in his stroller.

Then I could afford a house in a suburb, and no stores were within three miles, so car required.

Now I am in an upscale beach community and it is one mile up the hill to a small grocery and two miles up the hill to a QFC. Another mile up to a Fred Meyer. I have walked to all of these and toted groceries back in a backpack, but generally drive there, except for the little store, only a mile away. I would feel foolish driving there.

I guess I have lived my whole life, as a small business owner, in a food desert. Who knew that the gubmint was shirking its responsibility to me?


68 posted on 03/13/2012 9:52:42 AM PDT by angry elephant (Endangered species in Seattle)
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To: Blueflag

My nearest license plate office is over 20 miles away. Their arcane and stupid rules made me return FOUR TIMES to get a set of license plates because they couldn’t understand simple procedures.


69 posted on 03/13/2012 9:53:47 AM PDT by cyclotic (People who live within their means are increasingly being forced to pay for people who didn't.)
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To: Lou L

I live on a sailboat and I routinely walk to the nearest grocery store, which is about 2.2mi, around 4 1/2mi round trip, at least every two to three days...

There is a bus that would take me part of the way...but walking is pretty good exercise for me, I don’t care for a bicycle...I’ve kind of gotten into a semi-speedwalking rhythym that gets me moving, and it’s good for my back...throw in some kung foolery and occaisonal heavy lifting and that’s my middle aged exercise plan.

Where I am is pretty urban, it keeps you on your toes...people lose perspective when they’re too cocooned in their safety zones.

When I first moved aboard, I would walk to the store and take the bus back, then when I felt good, forget the bus and carry the groceries back. Then I got so used to it I forgot about the bus. There’s another store I occaisonally go to where they have cheap deli style bread...it’s 5mi one way, but bread is a light load.

I only do this for groceries, by the way. If a friend is going to the hardware store, or if need to go to the mall, I get a ride or a bus or a cab...only for groceries do I walk. And I only get enough for a day or two at a time, so I walk regular. I found an empty cupboard is a great incentive to exercise, I’m not dragging my feet when my lunch is at the other end ;^)


70 posted on 03/13/2012 9:54:03 AM PDT by AnTiw1 (...after two decades in a mormon hell, i will not live in a country with a mormon president...)
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To: Lou L

I quite agree that the route to a store is often challenging or even highly dangerous on foot, or on a bike for that matter.

I also agree that it is time-consuming and impractical for many.

However, it is quite obvious looking around that most Americans could stand to get a little more exercise. I think one of the big problems we have as a society is the fact that “exercise” has changed from being a part of our lives, as in walking to the store, and become something you go somewhere to do. This leads to the somewhat silly prospect of people driving 5 miles to the gym in order to walk 5 miles on a treadmill.

The problem is that it is far easier to skip going to the gym than going to the grocery store. If getting needed exercise were part of other aspects of our life rather than a separate part, I think most of us would do it better.

I have personal experience with this. About 10 years ago, I cut out driving whenever possible at all for six months. I commuted by bike 26 miles round-trip every day to work and put in another 50 to 75 miles per week on other business, including grocery shopping (backpack and bicycle baskets). Put only 400 miles on the car in six months.

Lost 52 pounds and 40 points off my blood pressure.

Then I had a wreck and broke my pelvis in 5 places. Which kind of put a stop to the experiment for a while. :)

I realize that many won’t consider such a lifestyle change. For some it’s just not possible and others prefer not to do so. I would never consider trying to make such changes mandatory or force people into them.

But I do think moving in this direction would be good for both those who did so and the country as a whole.


71 posted on 03/13/2012 9:56:38 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Red Badger
I used to walk three miles to and from school every morning and afternoon. Uphill.......both ways..........

Reminds me of Jeff Dunham's Walter joke...

72 posted on 03/13/2012 9:57:22 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (If my candidate doesn't win the nomination I'm going to kick my feet, cry like a baby, and stay home)
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To: trailhkr1

See post 71.


73 posted on 03/13/2012 9:58:28 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: RJS1950
We've been talking about food, so your phrase"The power of the fed has to be reset hit me in two ways...
74 posted on 03/13/2012 9:59:45 AM PDT by Pecos (O.K., joke's over. Time to bring back the Constitution.)
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To: CNSNews.com
But, First Lady Michelle Obama says kids should walk 4-5 times that far every day, and adults should walk more than three times that far.

Thereby proving what idiots Moochelle and the leftists are. What they are talking about is kids walking 4 - 5 MILES or more EVERY day and adults should WALK 15 - 20 MILES EVERY day!!

First, I want to see Moochelle set the example by doing it herself - EVERY DAY for at least 3 months. Not just once for a photo op.

But, secondly (and, more important), ever heard of school and work . . . . . . . you ignorant morons!!???

75 posted on 03/13/2012 10:08:02 AM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - Another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: Sherman Logan
Sherman, you seem receptive and open-minded about this discussion. And while I personally agree that a lifestyle that incorporates activity is better than one that doesn't, I don't believe that forcing (through whatever means of coercion is used) a certain activity upon people because it's "good for them" is the type of thing we ought to be doing. Where do you draw the line?

I remember when I was younger, they had these "Presidential Fitness Awards" for doing so many things in gym class: running, pushups, situps, etc. Looking back, there didn't seem to be any political agenda behind them, and that kind of general public service message is probably acceptable.

Today, these forced lifestyle changes are anything but apolitical.

76 posted on 03/13/2012 10:27:44 AM PDT by Lou L (The Senate without a filibuster is just a 100-member version of the House.)
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To: Joe the Pimpernel

That is my first thought whenever I hear the term “Food Desert.”


77 posted on 03/13/2012 10:31:02 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty ("If the past sits in judgment on the present, the future will be lost." --Winston Churchill)
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78 posted on 03/13/2012 10:32:41 AM PDT by devolve (- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - you can*t do that with a WebTV - - - - - - - - - - - -)
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To: gramho12

“the administration’s definition of a “food desert” (being a mile away from a grocery store)”

My kids were raise in a Food Desert, an Education Desert and a Health Desert. Somehow, they turned out healthy and educated.


79 posted on 03/13/2012 10:40:19 AM PDT by Makana
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To: Pecos

Heh, didn’t see it that way but you are right, it can be taken two ways.


80 posted on 03/13/2012 11:00:27 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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