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NBC: Romney Wins Illinois Republican Party [Romney Wins Big In IL]
MSNBC ^ | March 20, 2012

Posted on 03/20/2012 5:47:47 PM PDT by Steelfish

NBC: Romney Wins Illinois Republican Party By Michael O'Brien, msnbc.com

Mitt Romney won the Illinois Republican primary with some ease on Tuesday evening, allowing him to likely add at his advantage over his rivals in the tally of delegates needed to secure the party's presidential nomination.

NBC News projected that Romney had won the contest, the lone presidential primary taking place on Tuesday, shortly after polls closed. The primary offered Republicans maybe their best chance yet of a genuine one-on-one battle between the former Massachusetts governor and Santorum, his chief competitor for the Republican nod.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcpolitics.msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
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To: katiedidit1

I left off North Carolina, which is another santorum state.

Santorum did well in Tennessee, and he does much better in republican counties. Romney wins Obama counties, but fails to win Republican counties.

Kentucky being almost 100 percent Republican, would bode very well for Santorum.


101 posted on 03/20/2012 6:43:23 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: Steelfish

“I don’t think Romney needs Rubio to win FL. “

Gov. Scott only beat that pinko Alex Sink by 1% in the 2010 avalanche. Don’t put FL in the bank for the GOP just yet.


102 posted on 03/20/2012 6:44:14 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: af_vet_1981

Bullshit

The GOP must die

No more blue blood country club military service avoiding cowards from planet Kolob or anywhere else in the twilight zone

DC is the problem, it’s the LAST place the muzzies will nuke

This Republic is lost due to the imposition of universal suffrage.

What will come in it’s place, and it might take another 50 to 100 years, will be a reset to what the FOUNDERS gave us.


103 posted on 03/20/2012 6:45:06 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Rick Santorum voted against Right toWork)
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To: Steelfish

You have stated so many times that if only Newt had told his supporters to vote for Rick in Ohio and Michigan Rick would be winning.

As a Newt supporter, I’m getting a little tired of Santorum supporters believing that I’m some “mind-numbed robot” who will vote the way someone tells me to. I’m pretty sure that Newt has far too much respect for his supporters to order us to vote for someone.


104 posted on 03/20/2012 6:45:37 PM PDT by Mangia E Statti Zitto
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To: Bailee

I’m not going to face my maker and try to explain why I voted for the lesser evil. Those days are done. There is no collective salvation.

I’m not sure why you think evangelical preaching has anything to do with it.

Further argument with me about it is a waste of time. People can blame me all they want, it has no effect on me.


105 posted on 03/20/2012 6:46:41 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: oldbrowser

Yes, how is he a troll? A roll is not defined as somebody that doesn’t kiss your ass btw.


106 posted on 03/20/2012 6:46:49 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Steelfish
The way the primaries, caucus’ have been run is a disgrace. The National Republican Party should be hung out to dry! the state leaders have walked in lock step with the establishment in many cases.
As a Newt supporter..I KNOW he is the best man for the job. I do not want the folks in Texas to be disenfranchised and not have the opportunity to vote for him. Perry and Norris are working hard for him down there.
Newt should stay in and hopefully gain bartering power at the convention. IF Newt dropped out..Romney would still be ahead of Santorum. Also, the mega bucks ads being spent bashing Newt would have been directed at Santorum who got a free pass for quite some time.
107 posted on 03/20/2012 6:46:50 PM PDT by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: Artcore
A solid Conservative VP choice could be Romney's political salvation.

I think a solid conservative VP would just be window dressing and an attempt to pander to the base. With the people romney would set up in Dc, I don't see a conservative VP having much influence over the agenda...

108 posted on 03/20/2012 6:47:16 PM PDT by true believer forever (If Newt is good enough for Sarah, he's good enough for me!)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
Those primary delegates will help determine which Republican Illinois won't vote for. And who the rest of the country will be stuck with. So it is far from meaningless.
109 posted on 03/20/2012 6:48:53 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: ScottfromNJ
Time for a new direction.

Aye, but the timing would just hand the election to Ø.

Gear up NOW for 2016.

In the meantime....PRAY that we make it to 2016. I certainly cannot/will not vote for Mittens.

110 posted on 03/20/2012 6:48:53 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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To: GotMojo
time for Newt & Rick to exit so we can focus on the task at hand. The sooner the better.

Nope. Romney's feet have to be kept to the fire. If he is coronated, he will scoot to his Massachusetts liberal safe zone. We have to make him say conservative things so that we can call him on his lies should he happen to become president, which he would do without my vote.

Scorched earth has a price.
111 posted on 03/20/2012 6:49:17 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (May Mitt Romney be the Paul Tsongas of 2012.)
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To: JCBreckenridge

You have to remember New York, NJ and California


112 posted on 03/20/2012 6:49:35 PM PDT by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands
We are in the situation that we are in because of attitudes like that. The Republican establishment thumbs their nose in our faces because they say “You don't have anywhere else to go.” So they feel confident with putting forward increasingly more liberal candidates without fear of any conservative backlash.

Sure, Romney is more conservative than Obama in most ways, but Harry Truman and John Kennedy are more conservative than Romney. If we keep encouraging the liberal Republican establishment by voting for the establishment choice, then eventually our choice will be between two candidates even more liberal than Obama. At some point this acquiescing to the liberal Republican steamroller has to stop.

The greatest enemies of social conservatives are liberal Republicans. In Roe v. Wade, 7 of the 9 Supreme Court justices were appointed by Republican Presidents. In Lawrence v. Texas, 5 of the 9 justices were appointed by Republican Presidents.

It is scarcely mentioned in the mainstream media, but people with conservative religious beliefs are already being fined, fired, not allowed to graduate from college, and even jailed simply because of their faithfulness to those conservative religious beliefs. Perhaps those willing to always vote for the Republican establishment's choice will not face those problems, because they will probably not have the courage to stand firm for their beliefs. But a good many of us have more reason for concern.

Regardless of the odds, regardless of the outcome, some of us will continue to speak from the public square, from the corners of the crowd, from the recesses of society, from prison. Our voices will echo from the grave.

Voting for Romney is not the answer. It only postpones the inevitable.


Exactly right!

Romney is all about money. He couldn't care less about about the lefts attack on the family, our children, our freedoms, in fact HE created these problems for parents in MA. Schools are teaching 5 year old about protected sex and homosexuality, while academics has fallen drastically. We don't need our schools to fulfill socialist dreams, we need schools to get back to basics and teach RRR. We see a war on religious freedoms. We have abortion up to 9 months in the womb (which was fine with Romney in MA-until he wanted to be president) Hollywood wants all moral restrains thrown off, that is why most of them don't believe in a real God, He would cramp their style. The left wants our kids hearts and minds and we must fight for them. Rick is the ONLY one who is fighting the culture war, everyone else is SCARED to talk about it, it might hurt them. Politically. Sometimes the truth hurts and if the culture continues on the road it's on, God help our kids. Many parents do see this threat and chose the ONLY candidate willing to stand up for us.


FIGHT ON RICK!!!


RICK IS GIVING A GREAT SPEECH!

113 posted on 03/20/2012 6:52:38 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Only God can change a heart, but we can pray for hearts to be changed)
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To: katiedidit1

True - they will be big. I just think it’s too early to give up not when there’s so many conservative states that can be won.

Illinois, is now 48-34 despite the early call. So Santorum is gaining on Romney.


114 posted on 03/20/2012 6:53:50 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: TitansAFC

This was one of the best posts I have ever read!


115 posted on 03/20/2012 6:54:11 PM PDT by Mangia E Statti Zitto
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Can we ever just look forward to the future for the sake of our grandkids? I’m so sick of this divide. Conservatives all over the web are having a reality check and coming to grips with Romney - except here where hatred for Romney trumps the commie. It’s unbelievable to me. I’m no Romney supporter. From day one I thought Rick Perry was the man. And I sadley watched him torn apart here. He’s not lookin’ so bad now, huh? Everyone is so quick to forgive Newt’s and Santorum’s past - but not the governor of a super liberal state. I’m not thrilled with Romney but I do know he’ll be better than obama. Maybe that’s not a good enougth reason to vote for someone — but then again, we’ve never had an obama.


116 posted on 03/20/2012 6:54:22 PM PDT by jersey117 (The Stepford Media should be sued for malpractice)
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To: cripplecreek
Nov. will not be rocket science.

You go into the voting booth and you vote either for as many Republicans as possible and then against obama. Anything else is sheer stupidity.

Trying to legitimize standing in the corner sucking your thumb because you didn't get your way seldom works.

If you fail to vote for the Republican nominee you have just helped obama. A man who wants to destroy the future for your kids.Once again, its not rocket science.

117 posted on 03/20/2012 6:54:36 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: rodguy911

You’re wasting your time. I’m off the plantation. You best forget me and git back to pickin the master’s cotton.


118 posted on 03/20/2012 7:00:31 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Steelfish

Texas is coming on line at the end of May.

That number of electors for Texas is 38.


119 posted on 03/20/2012 7:01:59 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: katiedidit1

Getting just 8% of the vote in IL is not exactly rocket fuel for Gingrich to go forward.


120 posted on 03/20/2012 7:02:44 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: cripplecreek

“Further argument with me.”

Peace I was not trying to argue. Simply trying to understand your comment that is all.


121 posted on 03/20/2012 7:06:17 PM PDT by Bailee
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To: rodguy911

Nov. will not be rocket science.
You go into the voting booth and you vote either for as many Republicans as possible and then against obama. Anything else is sheer stupidity.

Trying to legitimize standing in the corner sucking your thumb because you didn’t get your way seldom works.

If you fail to vote for the Republican nominee you have just helped obama. A man who wants to destroy the future for your kids.Once again, its not rocket science.

***

I get what you’re saying. And I believe in my heart many Romney voters TRULY do want Obama out in a huge way — the problem is — they’re extremely uninformed and don’t get a lot of these issues and they don’t understand the difference between RINOS and true conservatives. They go with who they think “looks” better, talks better, has more money, has more machine — but they stay very much in the dark knowledge wise OR, they believe we need the gd independents to win.

I’m hoping this improves - that with more exposure, Romney stumbles a bit before it’s all over. I REALLY want Newt to stay in and just keep up the pressure on Obama ...every single day. BE Newt — get in his head.

Over time, it could turn ...still very early. I remember everything breaking for McCain sometime back in July or August of 2008!


122 posted on 03/20/2012 7:06:17 PM PDT by LibsRJerks
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To: TitansAFC

Oh, wow. I already read this twice, and will again.

But, more importantly, is there any going back now? Undoing what’s been done, and revamping and reigniting - or is it simply too late, too much damage done, too much of the powers that be now in the driver’s seat. I hope you will find the time to answer my questions, they are very important to me.

What an extraordinary post!! thank you so much!!


123 posted on 03/20/2012 7:07:33 PM PDT by true believer forever (If Newt is good enough for Sarah, he's good enough for me!)
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To: rodguy911
Nov. will not be rocket science.

You go into the voting booth and you vote either for as many Republicans as possible and then against obama. Anything else is sheer stupidity.

Trying to legitimize standing in the corner sucking your thumb because you didn't get your way seldom works.

If you fail to vote for the Republican nominee you have just helped obama. A man who wants to destroy the future for your kids.Once again, its not rocket science.


That's the attitude that has brought us to this point. The liberal Republicans are laughing their rear ends off. They know that "you don't have anywhere else to go. LOLOLOL. Let's nominate someone even MORE liberal next time. They will do they same thing."

Voting for Romney may be good tactics, but it is horrible strategy.

The slippery slope is the easiest road, and you make good speed. And your handbasket driver will supply you with reassuring comments along the way.
124 posted on 03/20/2012 7:07:54 PM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands
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To: Steelfish

Illinois is a LIBERAL state. I repeat, a LIBERAL state. No real conservative is going to do well there, right now, as things are.


125 posted on 03/20/2012 7:08:33 PM PDT by LibsRJerks
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To: LibsRJerks

Some long odds there but I get what you are saying.


126 posted on 03/20/2012 7:09:03 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Bailee

I can’t save America and from what I’ve seen from my fellow “conservatives” in recent years, they aren’t going to save America either.


127 posted on 03/20/2012 7:10:52 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: TitansAFC

You got it, Titans. Agree on your perfect summation of this entire debacle.


128 posted on 03/20/2012 7:12:45 PM PDT by LibsRJerks
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To: cripplecreek
"If" Romney gets elected I will continue to light a fire under his ass and torture the RNC every time they even try to go rino.

IMHO, we have made a lot of progress. The Tea Party alone is proof.

The country has always been center right. Its just going to take a while to reinstall Ronald Reagan style conservatism again. But its in the works and will happen. Not soon enough for any of us but with the likes of Sarah Palin, Marco Rubio Paul Ryan and others we do have a future.

Lets not throw it away because we didn't get our way....again. We are the leadership of the conservative base, if we give up things only get worse.

129 posted on 03/20/2012 7:14:22 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: jwalsh07
Yes, how is he a troll? A roll is not defined as somebody that doesn’t kiss your ass btw.

In '06 & '08 we had a lot of people that had recently joined that were preaching that we should not vote to "teach the GOP a lesson". It was a disaster and it brought us Obama. It is not uncommon for trolls to come to Free Republic and try to create wedge issues to split our vote.

Once again we have new people saying they will not vote for the GOP nominee unless it is their favorite. I believe this is a critical election and anybody causing dissension among the troops is not helpful.

I like Newt and thought Perry had shown good results in Texas. Romney is not my choice but I will support the Nominee of the GOP. Anybody but Obama.

We are putting Romney in a position where he has to select Santorum as his VP.

130 posted on 03/20/2012 7:15:51 PM PDT by oldbrowser (They are Marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: rodguy911

Heard it all before, several times.

Thanks anyway and good luck.


131 posted on 03/20/2012 7:16:30 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

“I can’t save America and from what I’ve seen from my fellow “conservatives” in recent years, they aren’t going to save America either.”

I agree completely. America cannot be saved forever. Rev 13 will come to pass at Gods Appointed time and Schedule.


132 posted on 03/20/2012 7:17:31 PM PDT by Bailee
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To: GOPsterinMA

More bad news, Adam Kinzinger is leading Don Manzullo. It’s a good night for RINO’s.


133 posted on 03/20/2012 7:19:14 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (A chameleon belongs in a pet store, not the White House)
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To: Christie at the beach

Divide and conquer may have been the strategy all along They wanted Mittens and the only way to do it was by dividing real conservatives I WON’T VOTE FOR ROBAMNEY under any circumstance


134 posted on 03/20/2012 7:19:25 PM PDT by StPaulRevert (http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=wI9XnAaM8js)
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To: TitansAFC
Amen, TitansAFC.

It happens too often it's drags us down as a country and a people

to have the worse candidate representing our liberties. Conservatives have the best message.

135 posted on 03/20/2012 7:21:40 PM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: oldbrowser

I see where you are coming from, but I hope you see mine.

I’m Catholic. Mitt Romney brought in publicly funded abortion to Massachusetts.

If the choice is between Mitt and Obama, I cannot in good conscience vote for either one of them.

I am not promoting the rising of a third party, but I will not support a man who has written a policy providing public funding for abortion while he was governor.

Santorum, to me is the last man standing who supports what I believe, and so I will support him, not out of desire to divide the party, but because I sincerely believe that he has the best opportunity to beat Obama.

I fear that Romney, we will sell our souls and still lose, just as what happened with McCain. It will avail to naught.


136 posted on 03/20/2012 7:21:40 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

In the past, Republican Presidents weren’t very good at vetting their judicial nominees. They’ve gotten better in recent years, as Clarence Thomas, John Roberts, and Samuel Alito can prove.


137 posted on 03/20/2012 7:21:53 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (A chameleon belongs in a pet store, not the White House)
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To: JCBreckenridge

You don’t think Newt’s anti-abortion?


138 posted on 03/20/2012 7:24:54 PM PDT by true believer forever (If Newt is good enough for Sarah, he's good enough for me!)
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To: rodguy911

Just reduce this to a simple logic problem Will voting for candidate X who is liberal produce a conservative president?

Will candidate X, who is as hostile to our values as Obama govern in a way that promotes our values?

Logically the answer to both is no. Therefore why continue to reinforce the party that produces Candidate X?

It’s going to collapse either way. Do you prefer it to do so with your ethics and morality intact or not? That’s the only real issue. As for me, if Romney gets the nod, he will do it without my vote as well. Blame the GOP for the loss.


139 posted on 03/20/2012 7:24:54 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands
Although I don't have a dozen or so links to prove my position its my guess that the RNC has seen the future and they realize that without us they go nowhere.

They might get the presidency but we will take the rest. If not this cycle or the next we will nominate and elect a conservative potus. Will her name be Palin or his Rubio or Ryan? I don't know but it will happen.With or without your help.

You can't tell me they haven't got the funding message that we sent. We now fund individual candidates and Sarah Palin gets them elected. Seems we still have bit to learn about waging a campaign for potus however. You gotta admit that Santorum and Newt were severely lacking in the basics. When our two guys go up against a well financed, well organized, engineered machine that's been at it for years with little or no resources the result is pretty predictable.

When that kind of campaigning stops and we get better organized it will be a different result. The days of the rinos while not over are severely measured. I see the glass half full,you obviously don't.

140 posted on 03/20/2012 7:24:58 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Clintonfatigued

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141 posted on 03/20/2012 7:26:14 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (The Establishment is the establishment.)
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To: ScottfromNJ
Enough with the GOP RINO establishment. Time for a third party conservative candidate.

I'm with you Scott. Tonight reminds me of why I officially left the Republican party about four years ago to become independent.

I will not vote for Romney no matter who he picks as VP. I did that in 2008 (voted for VP). Never again!

142 posted on 03/20/2012 7:27:01 PM PDT by The Citizen Soldier (America needs Gingrich in 2012 about as much as England needed Churchill in 1940!)
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To: montanajoe
montana, I agree with your sentiments. Once again we Conservatives are being asked to gobble up yet another sh*t sandwich. But again, the potential reality is that Romney may very well be the GOP candidate. For some, their option will be to simply not vote. I get it...i really do. I had originally purposed this same decision, but I find myself changing my position. It's not that I've all of a sudden become a Romney supporter; it's that I do not want a Marxist running our nation for another four years. My feeling (and that of a growing number IMHO) is that as bad as Romney might be, he doesn't hate the country, and doesn't have as his mission to destroy it.

If Obama is elected our fate is sealed...period. At least with Romney (should he win the primary) we have a chance. Again, I completely understand where you're coming from, and the utter frustration that you and others feel.

143 posted on 03/20/2012 7:28:34 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: cripplecreek

I heard they expected Romney to win by 20. Is that right. Right now Romney is at 47.4 and Rick at 34.5 with 75% in. Rick might walk with some delegates.


144 posted on 03/20/2012 7:30:22 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Only God can change a heart, but we can pray for hearts to be changed)
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To: true believer forever

I have much in common with Newt. If we voted for someone that resembled ourselves, I would choose Newt over everyone else. Newt strikes me of someone who is an idea man who can come up with great principles.

We need someone like Washington. Washington - wasn’t known for his ability to covey ideas, but to maintain a consistant footing in times of great trial. I’m willing to sacrifice ideas for consistancy, someone that I can trust at the end of the day.

I guess I see it like this. I wish I could be as good a man as Santorum is for his family, and I admire how he has raised them and conducted himself.

So that is why I supported Santorum over Newt. Now, I think it’s more pragmatism, Newt didn’t get it done when he needed to. It’s hard enough for Santorum to catch Romney - let alone Newt. We don’t have the luxury of time (as we once had), to sit and decide.

All due respect to Newt - I believe that Santorum has the best chance of defeating both Romney and Obama.


145 posted on 03/20/2012 7:30:32 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: Norm Lenhart
My take is to dislodge the GOP rinos and install a conservative GOP/RNC. It may not happen tomorrow. But, I'm0 in for the long haul. It's easy to concoct scenarios where you look good when you don't get your way but its still the same ol' stuff.

You either vote against obmama,frankly I don't see obama and romney as equivalents,or help them, hurt us.Still not rocket science.

146 posted on 03/20/2012 7:30:41 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: rodguy911
"If you fail to vote for the Republican nominee you have just helped obama. A man who wants to destroy the future for your kids.Once again, its not rocket science."

CANNOT BE SAID ENOUGH. I REFUSE to hand my childrens' lives over to a MARXIST HELLBENT ON TAKING THEM AND THEIR COUNTRY DOWN.

OH...and GUESS WHOSE KIDS WILL BE ON TOP OF THE OBAMA/AYERS/HOLDER/JARRETT SH*T LIST?

YOURS AND MINE.

I refuse to deny my children a CHANCE to save their country--a chance to give them some TIME to turn things around. I love my kids and my country too much to let them go down come November.

147 posted on 03/20/2012 7:31:36 PM PDT by Miss Behave (All ways, always.)
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To: Christie at the beach

“They cost us this. The no one but Rick, stubborness.”

The social Conservative, one issue voter, has destroyed this party. They have tunnel vision and nothing will sway them from it. It’s what has given us the second Obama term.


148 posted on 03/20/2012 7:32:02 PM PDT by MissouriConservative (Voting Newt in 2012.)
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To: JCBreckenridge
Your not worshiping at the altar of Newt.
149 posted on 03/20/2012 7:32:33 PM PDT by mimaw
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To: Linda Frances

It’s done by Congressional district, Winner take all. Which is why Santorum’s showing downstate is so crucial.

Doesn’t matter if Romney blows him out in Cook - what does matter is if Santorum can win the rest. So with his good showing downstate he’s going to take more than a few delegates tonight.


150 posted on 03/20/2012 7:32:58 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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