Posted on 03/22/2012 6:27:59 PM PDT by true believer forever
Rick Santorum's latest attempt to use a Mitt Romney aide's "Etch-A-Sketch" remark against the Republican front-runner instead gave his rival a chance to fire back on Thursday, after Santorum seemed to say he'd rather see President Obama reelected than send Romney to the White House.
Speaking at an event in Texas, Santorum again made the case that Romney spokesman Eric Fehrnstrom's comments Wednesday on CNN about a "reset" of the campaign if Romney clinched the nomination showed the former Massachusetts governor's efforts to appeal to conservatives were insincere.
"You win by giving people the opportunity to see a different vision for our country, not someone who's just going to be a little different than the person in there," Santorum told a crowd in San Antonio, according to NBC News. "If you're going to be a little different, we might as well stay with what we have instead of taking a risk with what may be the Etch-A-Sketch candidate of the future."
(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...
Shut up, Rick!
Exactly the same message my Catholic priests and nuns taught us in Catholic schools about criticizing the Catholic leaders. Except they didn’t say it was wrong, they told us it was a “sin” .
the way romney so cooly and calmly ordered a hit on Newt in florida, to destroy him, not debate him, makes me think you are absolutely right. Though, Newt being in direct conflict with Romney while romney is in office is what I have been thinking about. Like using the first 4 years of the romney term, to develop and procreate a true revolutionary conservative movement.
I have been reading up on "taking it to the convention" since I knew nothing about that, and it seems Reagan did that to Ford... took on a sitting President. I have a feeling Newt would find real joy leading that kind of movement, and wouldn't necessarily have to be its candidate.
He loves the young conservatives, and he might see such a thing as a true legacy for himself - another band of merry revolutionaries in the image of breitbart and Newt. I would be in bigtime.
Both Newt and Santorum are excellent conservative candidates based on their history in government.
Newt certainly has some strong points that shouldn’t be overlooked....but so does Santorum. (I actually like his honesty.)
In any case, he did say essentially that a liberal flip-flopper is no better than any other liberal.
He’s right.
Sometimes I want to facepalm hard enough to give myself concussion when Santorum answers a question on social issues, but there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that he answers honestly as to his beliefs and opinions.
Just wish he’d phrase things better! The MSM is not ready for an honest politician.
Yeah, sometimes I wonder if we really are out to make them believe that we are indeed 1800 retreads.
The Democrates have always been very keen on getting in contact with the youth so as to adopt their language. Hillary pulled a stunt like this when she wore that NYC cap, while her, like Obama, were never residents of their respective state, or, in the case of OBama, never a natural born citizen.
If you were around as an adult in 1968...and somebody said to you back then:
ALL: I can see it now...
...it's the year 2012...
...the GoP party has a candidate to the left of JFK & Lyndon Johnson...and we have your kids -- kids who now say "anybody is better than 'welfare-state' Johnson"...
...They'll come aclamorin' "anybody is better than the Democrat"...
...and they'll push the guy who's to the left of Johnson!!!
....Would you have responded in 1968:
No, no, no. You have to have just a little more faith in America and Americans. I am not asking you to go all pollyanna, but don't collapse into cynicism that way. God hasn't given up on America yet, don't you either. Maybe you just need to chill a little, and your perspective will get better. We can do this. and I hope you will help.
Your encouragement to "chill a little" wouldn't change the "eventual" Romney reality, would it?...nor would it have altered that "perspective," would it?
No. Instead, what we have is knee-jerk "trainers" & "mentors" of the next generation...people who reflexively will always communicate to the GoP establishment: "It doesn't matter who you send us. It doesn't matter what they believe or how often they waffle. As long as he has an (R) 'identity' -- and as long as he can beat the (D) guy, you have our eventual personal endorsements...even if we bellyache about it for a while."
You tell ‘em Sam!!!
I will support the GOP all the way. I am 77 this month and have never missed an election, I come from a long line of conservative voters.
I would like to see Newt spring to the top, but seems like it is just not happening.
I will support the GOP all the way. I am 77 this month and have never missed an election, I come from a long line of conservative voters.
I would like to see Newt spring to the top, but seems like it is just not happening.
I see I am good at double posting!!!
You liberals/dermocrats’ and your silly campaigning for Obama has no effect.
All that you liberals say means nothing.
You liberals/democrats’ and your silly campaigning for Obama has no effect.
All that you liberals say means nothing.
” This non-sense is much like Newts sales pitch for green energy as a Ethanol contractor. Don’t piss on my leg and tell me it’s raining.”
Ethanol was a disaster!
We currently have a liberal with a “D” behind his name.
How will America be better off with a pro-abortion anti-Reagan liberal with an “R” behind his name?
Pro-Romney RINO’s, you may now began flaming me.
(Admit it...you’re just a Romney troll...)
Just like I didn't for the Obama Pie in the Sky nonsense he pushed in 2008, or the for the ‘Green energy will save us’ nonsense Newt pushed a few years ago with his friend Pelosi. Wasn't Green energy claimed to be a national security issue too back then? That didn't make it work either.
Gingrich Earned Twice As Much As Previously Disclosed From Ethanol Lobbying Group
You are name calling against me for not voting for your Obama which is typical of Obama bot democrats which is what you are.
” Damn the couch, full BS ahead!! “
Admiral Fatgut
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So, how do you explain DeMint almost endorsing him? Do the jaws of the establishment reach that far? I mean, I used to believe DeMint was one of the good guys, and after 1 meeting with Willard, he’s “excited” at the prospect of him being the nominee, and thinks Santorum and Newt should drop out... is the GOP establishment that powerful? Really, is it?
that’s why the prospect of Newt taking this to the convention so enlivens so many, a chance to call out the GOP on their own turf... and mess up their choreographed coronation, even if it comes to nothing... It will be a first.
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According to Heritage Foundation’s Action Scorecard, Jim DeMint receives a 99% rating for his record of conservative legislation, which is the highest score of anyone in the Senate. So I still consider him to be one of the good guys.
I think what’s happening is the GOP establishment leaders took DeMint aside and begged him “for the sake of party solidarity” to help rally conservatives behind Romney by claiming that: 1) the GOP has already poured a tremendous amount of financial resources and legwork into grooming Romney for the presidency; 2) Many high-ranking party officials have put their collective reputations on the line by publicly endorsing him; and 3) Romney is the clear frontrunner who has built up a nearly insurmountable delegate lead and none of the other candidates can overcome. It’s entirely possible DeMint shares their worry about how this prolonged primary season may be damaging the candidates and fracturing the party. (I don’t prescribe to this mindset, by the way.) And, who knows, maybe DeMint genuinely DOES think highly of Romney.
All I can say is, if Romney does get the nomination and then goes on to lose to Obama, I truly think the Republican party as we know it will be finished because its conservative base will be IRATE AS HELL and will either: 1) turn its focus on pushing for a complete overthrow of the party establishment, or 2) abandon and form a new party altogether. (I would personally support the first option if, God forbid, it ever comes down to this.)
HMMMmmm...
Josey Wales: Outlaw
Some scenes in Old Paria, Utah.
Must we keep using stereotypical "grandpa" cultural references that people under 40 have never even heard of?
Between barbs like this and the "I Love Lucy" chocolate Episode reference, is there anything else our guys can do to seem even more out of touch with the 21st century?
ACtually, there is a show on my Christian Station called I Love Lucy, about 2 couples living in NYC, which I watch sometimes, but it never occurred to me that romney was referring to this, not in a presidential campaign anyway, but now I think he probably was... it was the "chocolate episode" reference that was confusing. But I am about 100% he was talking about the I Love Lucy show. It is from the 50's so is probably why a lot of younger people haven't heard of it.
I agree that honesty is great, but that there’s no law says Santorum has to answer every question anyone asks him.
Not in the Presidential powers, and I have a hard time thinking currently the jelly-fish GOPe would even bring it up. They have yet to hold up to their own ‘rules’...72 hr. review, pointing to the authorization for any legislation, etc.
So, no thanks. I’m finished hoping/wishing while they pick my pockets and try to shackle us with financial chains. A pox on ‘em all.
You know something about business.
Would you put your own money into a development of a manned moon colony because Newt said it’s a national security (????) issue?
With the price of gas skyrocketing you think the moon will become a tourist trap to return your investment?
” With the price of gas skyrocketing you think the moon will become a tourist trap to return your investment?”
I want the penthouse, with a view of The Big Crater.
Only problem I see is the 12,800,000.00 in fuel to go buy groceries at Safeway....
i can only imagine the hurdles to overcome by anyone attempting to break into orbit, from this country, in the future...if ya think the *tribute* to get a pipeline was affordable, i got a bridge to the moon to sell ya
big gov *owns* space travel that originates from the US...
any investors lookin to cash in on the green cheese need to be sweet talkin the chinese or russian mafias...
Weekend With Putin ?
Would you put your own money into a development of a manned moon colony because Newt said it’s a national security (????) issue?
With the price of gas skyrocketing you think the moon will become a tourist trap to return your investment?
I will repost my links, which do not even mention Newt Gingrich, and, were you truly interested in understanding or researching the subject, there are many technical and foreign policy articles on the subject of moon colonies, none of which have to do with tourism, okay? I don't mean to deprive you of your oxygen of misstatements, unfounded truth, and downright falsehoods, but facts are facts, even the inconvenient ones.
That's all for now. I only spend so much time in discussion with santorum supporters, too stubborn, too sanctimonious, too stupid, too blind. I hope you understand.
http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpps/news/russia-us-moon-base-nasa-dpgonc-20110119-to-_17194074
"Russia is talking with the US and Europe on plans to create a manned research base on the moon, the head of the Russian space agency Roscosmos said Thursday. Roscosmos is discussing the possibilities for a permanent moon base with officials from NASA and the European Space Agency, the agency's chief, Vladimir Popovkin said.
"We don't want man to just step on the moon," Popovkin told Vesti FM radio station, according to the Ria Novosti news agency. "Today, we know enough about it, we know that there is water in its polar areas ... we are now discussing how to begin [the moon's] exploration with NASA and the European Space Agency."
He said the plan was either to set up a base on the moon or launch a station to orbit around it. Russia also is planning to send two unmanned mission to the moon by 2020, Popovkin said."
Chinese moon base 2002
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/5/22/181737.shtml
Maybe China should get a second man in orbit before they take over the Moon. Oh, did Newt forgot to tell you that little problem?
Chinese has an advantage over us there, they didn't have a Newt to sell them on ethanol. They buy up oil wells instead of fairy tail solutions. They have $$$.
But yes, Newt says it won't cost taxpayers a penny to go to the Moon and build a manned base when we can't put a man in orbit. He is SO smarter than everyone else he will make it happen.
It's not actually a 'law'; but it DEFINITELY is a MORMON teaching!!!
Actually, NONE of the ‘money’ will be left on the Moon at all; just a bunch of metal and stuff.
All the MONEY will be used right here on Earth.
Think of it as a High-Tech WPA project.
At least these folks would be DOING something; other than to continue to VOTE for whomever says they’ll provide them with food and shelter from YOUR wallet, with NOTHING in return.
From WHERE did they get any money?
” He is SO much smarter than everyone else he will make it happen.”
He believes that......that is a problem.
You’re voting for a Democrat in Republican clothing and you have the audacity to say WE are liberals?
It would be really funny if you weren’t so pathetic.
In short, if you vote for Romney, you are not a Conservative, you are just a pasty for the Democrats.
BTW, I noticed you failed to respond to my comment regarding your attack on Colofornian. Again, pathetic. You are the reason people think the GOP is the stupid party.
That’s funny coming from a n00b and Romney bot like you.
Santorum has said some stupid things. I actually prefer Newt, but like Santorum’s views in general.
That doesn’t change that Romney is a stupid spoiled brat who will say anything to get elected. He is also a lying scumbag.
I will NEVER EVER vote for Romney. I can’t do it, my faith and my conservative principles will not let me.
I agree with Rick. If Romney’s the nominee, the Republican party is finished as a vehicle for conservatism. I will officially be an independent because I will not vote for a liberal. I don’t care what letter he has after his name.
The only arguments you seem to make for Santorum, at least to me, and to some others I have noted, are to call names, make insinuations, and be downright nasty. Do you think that helps your candidate? Do you really think you are that much better than everyone else, that you can’t engage them on the issues or their opinions when they disagree with you? There is a reason Santorum won’t get the nomination.
He believes that......that is a problem.
No, it's abundantly apparent that Newt is smarter, that is the problem for you and other Anti-Newt people.
i don't know who the poster was for the original quote you commented on, I hope they're in the list...
He’s a mere Commodore, no Admiral!
My bad : )
Yes,
In fact Newt just is TOO smart for this planet. Maybe he can run for POTUS of the Moon and the ‘private sector’ will drop him off there on their way to Mars.
yep noot greegrinch, *super genius* was duped by the 'manmade globull warming' academia, when a 10 minute investigation of the facts show that trained scientists cant predict tomorrows temps...one of the local weather guys has a "3 degree gurantee" for his forcast, and everywhere ive lived, the record temps, HI and LOW are usually still held from the 1900-30s...so please tell me how anybody but a moron would believe that 50-100 yrs out, there could be *science* to indicate a 1/2 degree avg temp diff ???
more like, noot greengrinch, former politically savy guy, who chose to use PR, insider knowledge and connections to pimp himself some cash and, simultaneously a shot at more power, win lose or draw, playin both sides of the aisle ???
maybe SP will tell you to vote for bambam next time...???
I’m ready to run for POTUS myself.
Slash taxes.
Killthe NEA.
Kill the EPA
Kill the Obamacare
Kill the Dept of Ed
Give illegals 12 months to leave, or 5 years in jail.
Y’all could do a lot worse!
so long as you dont *promise* to do all that, in the commie climate that is DC...especially ‘on day one’, you got my vote Brother...
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