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Trayvon Martin case has been poorly handled, Santorum says
Washington Post ^ | 3/23/12 | Felicia Sonmez and Nia-Malika Henderson

Posted on 03/23/2012 3:19:52 PM PDT by AnybodyButBarry

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To: AnybodyButBarry

He did pursue the man in defiance of the police.

I don’t think he should be charged with anything, but he did do more than just stand his ground.


51 posted on 03/23/2012 5:32:48 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: Mechanicos

Seriously, you think the Post would just make up quotes when Santorum could easily prove he didn’t say it?

Wow.

Some Freepers take the media conspiracy thing a bit too far.


52 posted on 03/23/2012 5:34:26 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: WPaCon

That name is probably why the media can hide it from their idiot viewers.

But if a “we need Hispanic voters” GOPE pol started speaking out for his rights it wouldn’t be so easy to hide it.


53 posted on 03/23/2012 5:44:02 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: AnybodyButBarry

STFU, Rick. You don’t have all the facts and neither does anyone else.


54 posted on 03/23/2012 5:45:36 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Irenic

“On Tuesday the 20th it was announced there would be a Grand Jury on April 10th. What in the L do these people want? Is not the rule of law good enough?
Or do we need instant justice... “

For all the injustices they (as a people) once endured at the vengeance of lynch mobs, you would think blacks would have learned something, but they have learned nothing.

What too many blacks are -really- “calling for” with their cries of “justice!” appears to be little more than a lynching-in-reverse.

But, hey! It keeps the discrim-industry’s “race machine” hummin’ along...


55 posted on 03/23/2012 5:49:32 PM PDT by Road Glide
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To: rbg81
Until all the facts are out, I think its premature to make statements like this. Zimmerman hasn’t been arrested so far for a reason. It also rubs me the wrong way how these politicians (who don’t have all the facts either) are all but calling for his head.

Well said.

I am reminded of the Duke Lacrosse team rape charges by the national media.

Let the police do their job and the local DA do his job and gather facts and information.

Perhaps, just perhaps they did gather the facts and did make a decision that will be reviewed by other law enforcement agencies. In either event, the rush to judge in the media seems a bit focused on furthering one's political view points.

56 posted on 03/23/2012 5:50:25 PM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

“Santorum should keep his mouth shut.”

Hey, Rick, what is your take on the three, yes, THREE black teenage thugs who set fire to the 11 year old white boy? Oh, you say you never heard of that one. I wonder why..... I’ll bet al sharktoon knows aaaaalllllll about it, Halleloooooya!!!!!


57 posted on 03/23/2012 5:51:12 PM PDT by jivin gene (Breakin' up is hard to do)
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To: dragnet2
If he said what I've heard, he's a vote whore.

Santorum remains my guy, but I think what we're seeing here is native reflex rather than vote whoring - it's the tendency of north easterners to see southern whites as a bunch of trigger-happy cowboys. I suspect that's his regional prejudice showing. It ain't pretty, but there it is...

58 posted on 03/23/2012 5:51:31 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: AnybodyButBarry
Has Rick Santorum offered an opinion on this? Teen Set on Fire in Racial Attack; Media Silent. For that matter, what of the other Republican candidates? Anything at all about the TWO black thugs attacking ONE white child?

“This is what you deserve. You get what you deserve, white boy.” So spewed the attackers of Melissa Coon’s 13-year-old son, as they doused him with gasoline and set him alight. The attack on the boy took place on the east side of Kansas City, Missouri.

59 posted on 03/23/2012 5:52:46 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: jivin gene
Hey, Rick, what is your take on the three, yes, THREE black teenage thugs who set fire to the 11 year old white boy?

See my post #59. Is there now yet another incident, this time where the white child was only 11?

60 posted on 03/23/2012 5:57:37 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: jivin gene

I thought it was two?

I like your point!


61 posted on 03/23/2012 5:59:46 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: rusty schucklefurd

Ya, Newt made a similar statement about “stand your ground” not applying here.....read the linked article for his statements.


62 posted on 03/23/2012 5:59:46 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: mrsmith

True.


63 posted on 03/23/2012 6:00:29 PM PDT by WPaCon
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To: MachIV
I don’t get it......an Hispanic guy shoots a Black guy, yet somehow some folks are acting like it’s the White Euro’s fault.

We have the one drop rule for blacks that more or less says that a single black ancestor makes someone black. I think Hispanics have that rule in reverse, whereby a single white ancestor makes someone white. Weirdly enough, Eva Longoria (star of Desperate Housewives) had her DNA tested and was discovered to have 70% European ancestry:


64 posted on 03/23/2012 6:04:27 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei
"Santorum remains my guy, but I think what we're seeing here is native reflex rather than vote whoring - it's the tendency of north easterners to see southern whites as a bunch of trigger-happy cowboys. I suspect that's his regional prejudice showing. It ain't pretty, but there it is..."

If that's true, he's bigoted, and I'm VERY glad he isn't my candidate.

65 posted on 03/23/2012 6:05:47 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (I can haz Romney's defeat?)
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To: AnybodyButBarry

I hate it when people try to get ahead of the curve (like Obozo), because it means it’s “all about them”.


66 posted on 03/23/2012 6:07:20 PM PDT by LibFreeUSA (Pick Your Poison)
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To: RIghtwardHo; All

Just so we know, of the 10 kills and 46 injured in Chicago last weeked, What color were they and the color of their shooters?


67 posted on 03/23/2012 6:10:08 PM PDT by edcoil (It is not over until I win.)
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To: All

Wait... why is it that so many here are willing to give Zimmerman the benefit of the doubt when the media tries to hang him, yet it doesn’t seem as if the same doubt would be given to a police officer or federal agent involved in a shooting when the media tries to hang them?


68 posted on 03/23/2012 6:14:47 PM PDT by Jones511
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To: RIghtwardHo

I read a few articles and they mostly were the same. And then I read one where there was blood/wound on Zimmerman’s head and his back had grass on it - like he was wrestled to the ground.

So it was different that the other articles where they definitely were bias and how he had candy in his hands and close to his father’s fiances home.

What the officers saw at the scene and Zimmerman’s testimony, they didn’t arrest him. The media should give all the facts and leave out the bias to stir the pot. I doubt Santorum really knows went down but spoke out anyway just to be relevant.


69 posted on 03/23/2012 6:14:47 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: AnybodyButBarry

It sure has been mishandled...like the parents and the media not wanting anyone to see the real kid or find out why he was suspended for ten days.

70 posted on 03/23/2012 6:15:35 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Hot Tabasco
Instead, Santorum has succumbed to race pandering.

I don't think it was calculated - I suspect Rick holds the general north eastern prejudice about white southerners being a bunch of trigger happy cowboys. Which is worse - pandering or reflexive regional prejudice? I couldn't rightly say. However, as a Santorum supporter, I take comfort in the fact that there are so many issues on which I agree with him that the few issues where he goes off the reservation won't be a deal breaker for me.

71 posted on 03/23/2012 6:16:24 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: AnybodyButBarry

As compared to...

72 posted on 03/23/2012 6:18:45 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: RIghtwardHo

So tell us, how did the wounds to the back of the shooter’s head occur? Since you know what happened.

Was the voice on the 911 call Trayvon’s or Zimmerman’s? Since you were there.


73 posted on 03/23/2012 6:20:34 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Solid Conservative Values. A Man You Can Trust. "Etch-a-Sketch 2012!" /sarc)
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To: CatherineofAragon
If that's true, he's bigoted, and I'm VERY glad he isn't my candidate.

He is no true conservatives candidate. He is only the favorite of the one issue voters.
He may be preferred in the Republican primary by the big union supporters, but once it comes to the general election all the big union supporters will return to an even bigger union supporter, Obama.
74 posted on 03/23/2012 6:22:09 PM PDT by John D
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To: Jones511
-- why is it that so many here are willing to give Zimmerman the benefit of the doubt when the media tries to hang him, yet it doesn't seem as if the same doubt would be given to a police officer or federal agent involved in a shooting when the media tries to hang them? --

The only reason Zimmerman is getting any benefit is the presence of evidence from eyewitnesses and a 911 recording. Without that, he'd not be getting any benefit.

75 posted on 03/23/2012 6:22:35 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: jonrick46

Exactly - the republicans give lip service to a smaller federal government, then decide to stick their nose in a matter that is a local and state issue. Wish someone would have the right principles and stick to them.


76 posted on 03/23/2012 6:24:40 PM PDT by utford
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To: Road Glide
For all the injustices they (as a people) once endured at the vengeance of lynch mobs, you would think blacks would have learned something, but they have learned nothing. What too many blacks are -really- “calling for” with their cries of “justice!” appears to be little more than a lynching-in-reverse. But, hey! It keeps the discrim-industry’s “race machine” hummin’ along...

Lynching isn't all it's been cracked up to be. Here are the stats from the left wing reference source Wikipedia, featuring data from the black-run Tuskegee Institute, indicating that an average of 40 blacks were lynched a year over an 86 year period:

Not all lynchings in the United States were targeted against African Americans. Between 1882 and 1968, the Tuskegee Institute recorded 1,297 lynchings of whites as well as the 3,446 lynchings of African Americans during that period.[1][13] By the 1890s and after the turn of the century, the vast majority of those lynched were Black people,[14] including at least 159 women.[15] Lynchings of other minority members, such as Mexicans and Chinese, have been shown to have been undercounted in the Tuskegee Institute's records.[16]

That ratio between white and black lynchings isn't that far off from the ratio of white to black stranger crimes (i.e. crimes not involving family members or friends). It's not politically correct to say this, but it wouldn't surprise me if the vast majority of the people lynched were serious criminals, leavened here and there with cases of victims who were truly innocent.

77 posted on 03/23/2012 6:29:35 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: molson209

The city of Sanford has all kinds of material up on their web site. If I were home on a computer I’d put up the links. The media rabble rousing is especially egregious given how much good raw data is there.


78 posted on 03/23/2012 6:30:15 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Cincinna; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks AnybodyButBarry.


79 posted on 03/23/2012 6:30:43 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him)
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To: Zhang Fei
He should have kept his mouth shut regarding local issues.

Step into this? Come on.

He'd done better juggling flaming chain saws.

Santorum must be a total fool.

Ya throw raw meat, ya better expect flies to land on it.

Who's his PR man? Chuckoo?

80 posted on 03/23/2012 6:35:10 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
> Too late Newt has been spouting off the same stuff.

-Newt said to wait for the investigation. He has not said Zimmerman is guilty as santos has. Get it right, gg.

81 posted on 03/23/2012 6:35:21 PM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: kcvl

Thank you, thats the Picture I have been wanting to see. MY MY MY, how different then the one they are plastering all over.


82 posted on 03/23/2012 6:35:42 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: MachIV

“I don’t get it......an Hispanic guy shoots a Black guy, yet somehow some folks are acting like it’s the White Euro’s fault.”

People are just taking cues from the media and now odumbo. This incident is exposing the shocking level of ignorance in our society. Few are even bothering to gather facts because “George Zimmerman” sounds like a “white” name.

The kenyan is going to run with this hard and unfortunately race bait the GOP into responding. Anytime we are not talking about the economy it is a win for barry.


83 posted on 03/23/2012 6:39:06 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

He should have called you first.


84 posted on 03/23/2012 6:41:35 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: AnybodyButBarry

Santorum is just chilling.


85 posted on 03/23/2012 6:43:58 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Christie at the beach
We all have to be careful until more evidence comes out.

reports here in Florida say Zimmerman was stalking this young little kid.

reports say that this big football player (kid) was seen beating on Zimmerman. reports say it was a hate crime. reports say Obama said it was a local issue. reports say obama has sent the DOJ and FBI in. local news is making George out to be a nut case and hates black people tho George is Black/ Latino. Bill O'Reilly convicted the guy before the investigation. If he is guilty, the truth will come out and he will be charged. If he is innocent, he will be railroaded. He should not be charged until the police have investigated. Jackson is making this about race -so, is Obama.

86 posted on 03/23/2012 6:45:05 PM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: Road Glide

Yes, this is bothering me to no end. People need to back off and let the rule of law deal with Zimmerman.

I want to forget about this and pretend like it didn’t happen but I can’t walk away with all the screaming for this mans head...without so much as a trial.

It scares the chit out of me and breaks my heart. I feel for Trayvon’s parents but I also feel much for Zimmerman’s family, too.

God help us all...


87 posted on 03/23/2012 6:46:05 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: kcvl

Where did you find those images?
Thanks in advance-


88 posted on 03/23/2012 6:50:05 PM PDT by Third Person
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To: Christie at the beach
the local cops are saying the media is putting fuel on this which looks to be accurate. Jackson and Sharpton-exergize their base-divide the people.
89 posted on 03/23/2012 6:52:34 PM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: AnybodyButBarry

Newt take advantage of it? And do what... go from 8 to 10% in the polls?


90 posted on 03/23/2012 6:53:07 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: AnybodyButBarry
Martin wasn't a little child as he's being depicted ..... He was a 6'2" football player, and he apparently attacked the Hispanic Zimmerman. People heard Zimmerman cry out for help..... .... If Martin was completely innocent, he could easily have explained where he was going and what he was doing instead of attacking the smaller Zimmerman.....and there is no evidence that he is not telling the truth about self defense?... ..And of course...then we have the usual suspects making this a race issue....the Reverend Al, the Reverend Jesse, and Obama---have crawled out from under their respective rocks and ridden off in the usual directions,.... without even the formality of an investigation by federal officers to justify their race-baiting chest-beating and in hot pursuit of whatever advantage they can gain....

....And Rick Santorum just followed them .....

....HE is NOT a leader! Idiot!

This is all about political and Media Drama for a story and political stance....sadly on the back of someones death

91 posted on 03/23/2012 6:54:29 PM PDT by caww
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To: Blogatron
He just lost my vote.

I guess Newt did too since he said things even worse. You are running out of candidates to vote for. I guess you will vote for Romney then. One issue you don't agree and you throw the guy under the bus. Rick probably does not need your vote anyway especially tomorrow in Louisiana where he will win decisively.

92 posted on 03/23/2012 6:54:58 PM PDT by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: rwfromkansas
“He did pursue the man in defiance of the police.”

Your comment is based on what? A 911 operator telling someone “you don't need to do that, the officers are on the way” doesn't constitute a lawful command from a police officer, it was simply advice. We do not know far more facts in this case than those we do know.
For example, we do not know for a fact that any officers were actually “on the way” at the time of the 911 call.

My experience has been that “suspicious person” merits an eventual drive-by of a single patrol car, while “shots fired” will bring a half dozen officers within a couple of minutes.

I've also noticed that there is little information being dug up about the deceased. Why was he suspended from school?
Does he have a police record? If this was a “gated community”, what was he doing there?

There is way too much agenda driven bias by the media in this case, and too many facts missing to jump to conclusions.

93 posted on 03/23/2012 6:55:35 PM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: kcvl; Third Person

Yes, where did you get those photos? The family and their handlers have only released innocent looking photos of a kid who looks to be 12-15 y.o.


94 posted on 03/23/2012 6:58:02 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: AnybodyButBarry

Sounds like Santorum is getting his info from MSM about this. he should at least read the police report and listen to teh 911 call tapes.

As for badly handled, I think the handlers are doing a fantastic job. They even gulled a Presidential candidate.


95 posted on 03/23/2012 6:58:51 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: AnybodyButBarry

Maybe. I’m certainly open to the possibility that Zimmerman screwed up. But even in California, we try people before we convict them of murder. How do they do it in Florida? (Don’t answer that. I already know. To the Martins, if you’re looking for justice, consider these eight words: “Caylee Anthony could not be reached for comment.”)


96 posted on 03/23/2012 7:02:40 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: AnybodyButBarry
RE: "Hope I did this right!"
You did well. Dotted the dots so to speak. Welcome aboard. Hope your stay is pleasant as well as informative.
97 posted on 03/23/2012 7:06:10 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle
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To: Hot Tabasco
At the VERY LEAST, ...Santorum could have deferred judgment until a complete and thorough investigation has been conducted........Instead, Santorum has succumbed to race pandering.

That would have been best....maybe a simple comment on the "Stand Your Ground" issue...but good grief Santorum once more shows how brazen he can be in his remarks...and I don't like that he's blaming the investigators either...that ones going to bite him back!

Our police have their hands tied enough without some stupid politician claiming how they've mishandled the happening before the job is even done.

Your sooo right...that's race pandering....but I'm really not surprised Rick did this....once again why he had such a difficult time getting people to support his run in the beginning ..he is like this...all for Rick...no matter how it make someone else look or the affects of his statements.

98 posted on 03/23/2012 7:11:04 PM PDT by caww
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To: kcvl

Thank you for posting the grown up shot of Martin. I’m so sick of them presenting him as some little innocent kid just wandering thru a “Neighborhood Watch” area at 2:am in the morning as if he’s out for a stroll.

I also do Neigborhood Watch and would have been watching Martin as well at that hour...and if he approached me while on the cell phone and then darted away that would have surely been suspect.

Also he apparently often missed school 5days at a time. So this guy wasn’t Mr. Model Student by any means.

Need to wait til all evidence and the “real” story to come out....not how media or politicians choose to frame it.


99 posted on 03/23/2012 7:22:30 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

For sure thinking,,, waaaay more to Story, that has noy been put out. They must really think we are Stupid.


100 posted on 03/23/2012 7:27:00 PM PDT by easternsky
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