Skip to comments.Zimmerman Attorney To Anderson Cooper: Trayvon Martin Broke My Client’s Nose
Posted on 03/24/2012 6:47:49 AM PDT by tobyhill
Amid the rush of loud outrage and vocal protest from the parents of Trayvon Martin and their supporters the silence of one character in this tragic tale has been deafening: George Zimmerman, the free man who shot Martin and alleges self-defense. His attorney, Craig Sonner, finally spoke out to Anderson Cooper last night, and had few answers but one accusation his client has a broken nose and a laceration on his skull, and that was an injury done by Trayvon Martin.
Sonner noted to Cooper that his client seemed fine save for a considerable bit of stress natural to his situation, but admitted that y conversations have been by telephone. He did not know where Zimmerman was but assumed he was still in the area and hadnt fled the country. He had surprisingly little to offer Cooper about the facts of the case; asked what Zimmerman had told him about what transpired the night Martin died, he said he should have made a statement to police at the time, I believe he did, and said he did not discuss the details, and they would be privileged even if he had.
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There is no Zimmerman statement at that link. There is, however, one of the most biased news reports I have read in a long time.
If you happen to know of any official statement made by Zimmerman, please let us know. I have read all of the police reports, witness statements, etc. that have been released, and I have listened to all the 911 calls.
I have read nothing about how the actual close-contact confrontation began -- only just speculation from race warriors, media personalities, news outlets, and Freepers.
Thanks. I think we are all learning from this case. I know I am.
Yep...and the fight - shooting took place behind the buildings...not in front where the truck would have been.
It was Zimmerman who yelled for help per Martin’s own father’s police interview. When the 911 tape was played by investigaters, the father answered that it wasn’t his son’s voice yelling for help.
The mainstream media in this country are nothing but a bunch of propagandists .
About the five or ten day suspension: to my knowledge, it could be as I’ve read other places, that Trayvon was a chronic truant and class cutter.
I’m just saying, but this is a fairly common “scholastic profile” of a teenage burlar. Day or night variety.
[ I just hope Zimmerman was smart enough to have photos taken of his nose and head. ]
I hope he was smart enough to go to the doctor so that there is a medical report and x-rays.
Of coures Z could draw his pistol while on the ground.
His “motivation factor” would be at about 9,000%.
There is an entire holster industry for this and other reasons. Every pistol has about 50 holsters made for it, to go here, there or anywhere, inside or outside the belt, on an ankle, belly, shoulder holster, plastic or leather, etc etc.
One thing they all have in common is: they make it easy to grab your blaster one-handed in a big hurry, even under extreme stress. Even on the ground.
I’m not allowed to ask questions?
Who died and left you boss?
If you doubt the validity of it, it came from his Facebook page.
(Photo Credit: PhilDragoo)
You aren’t just “asking questions”. You’re proposing completely hypothetical scenarios that don’t comport with physical evidence or eyewitness testimony.
I come from an LEO family ... father, husband, brother, nephews, cousins. There’s nothing you can teach me about holsters. Do you know what kind Zimmerman had? My father liked a shoulder holster under his shirt ... that would have been hard to access if pinned to the ground. My husband preferred his ankle holster.
If Martin was a chronic truant and class cutter and teenage burlar (sic), how did he manage to keep an A-B average? Why was he allowed to remain on the football team?
From what I’ve read here on FR, that’s the guy from Georgia.
That’s a great point. That’s why I think it is something far more serious, like being in an unauthorized area like his father alluded to. He seems to have a habit of being in the wrong place...
I thought I had read all the police reports, I must have missed that portion. Can you provide me with a link?
Very funny, you charging me with unwarranted speculation! Hahaha! Pot, meet kettle.
Oh, well, (for somebody with all that family in LE, and a holster expert with nothing more to learn), I guess I was thrown a bit by your asking such a stupid question about how Zman managed to get his gun out.
I guess it comes from years of sitting around the table talking "shop" with family members.
I agree, it comes down to the grand jury to decide. If Zimmerman initiated the struggle he may have to stand trial, on the other hand, if Martin was following Zimmerman as he headed back to his vehicle and initiated the struggle then this is self defense. There are reports of an eye witness but I can’t be certain of that at this point.
The Trayvon from Georgia, Treyvon Leslie, has a Facebook page that says he graduated high school in 2001. That would make him close to 30 years old. Does the pic I posted look like a 30 year old? He also is an engineer and works for the electric company in Georgia.
Do you think that is who is in the pic?
The Treyvon we are talking about was 17 years old on the night in question. He can't possibly have looked like that sweet middle schooler in the Pop Warner pic you posted.
Well, if he had been given his own skittle pooping pink Unicorn as promised he would not have needed to go out at two in the morning. So whose fault does that make it?
I served 20 years as a Washington, DC police officer. My wife would never go on a message board purporting to have some level of expertise about law enforcement because we sat at the kitchen table and I told her stories.
Nor would I go on a message board and talk about my expertise in nursing because she tells me all about her day.
Here is a wealth of official information to get you started:
There is 45 seconds of yelling for help on call 3 before a single gun shot is heard.
If Zimmerman is on the ground with Martin on top all that time, then it is not a quick draw situation. If Zimmerman had his weapon drawn at the beginning of the altercation, I don’t think he would be screaming for help for 45 seconds (or longer since that is just the start of the call) before firing.
[ The gang-banger Trayvon photos that are being posted on this site are not of ‘our’ Trayvon who was an A-B student and a member of his school’s football team. ]
‘Our’ ? Do you personally know him? Why do you say ‘our’ ?
First, how do you know he was an A-B student? I thought his lawyer had his academic records sealed. Second, so what if he was a member of his high school football them? Third, if he was a model student athlete, why was he suspended from school for skipping class? Not that it really matters.
His pics are restricted to friends only so there are no pics of him I can see, but I am confident Trayvon Leslie from Georgia is not the guy in the hoodie pic.
Here is a Google images pic of Trayvon Leslie of Georgia, taken in 2006:
Do you really believe that these pics are of the same guy?
C'mon, you have the Internet at your fingertips. Use it, before drawing conclusions from "what you have read here on FR."
The newer photos, and the older photos have been taken down.
There are some two year old shots posted in one of these threads from his own page.
His stalker? Bwahahahaha, thanks for exposing yourself so thoroughly. We need to know which are the enemies from the stealthy left in this political season.
You say “the kid should have left well enough alone....” Don’t you think that Zimmerman, having contacted the police who informed him an officer was on the way, should have “left well enough alone” and remained in his vehicle? It is, after all, “Neighborhood WATCH.”
Personally, I think it got into a wrestling match for the gun, and that’s why there was one shot fired, and all rounds chambered. Otherwise, a second round would have been stripped off and either loaded into the chamber, or jammed at some point between.
(It was a KelTec, LOL! I’ve got one too, and I know for sure that first one will go bang! After that, probably!)
Hell, Zman would've probably given him a ride in the rain!
Why run when you have no reason to?
Seriously, why did Trayvee run? Why did Trayveee attack Zman? This aint the 40's or 50's, there haven't been Klan lynchings in several generations. Even Jessie Jackasson doesn't fear whites.
BTW running through/on private property is trespassing!
That would depend on the Neighborhood Watch group and what the guidelines are with the programs for that particular neightborhood...as well the individual doing the Watch.
I have followed in order to remain engaged with the police with information etc....I have also been verbal with people. So have others within our group.
People within the community here 'always' identify themselves when asked.. and know it is a watch neighborhood...and who we are.... They don't run as that guy did.
So you go with your group as you see fit and instructed to do and I'll go with mine. The idea is we do stay within the parameters of what we are instructed to do...before contact with the police, as, and after.
And nobody "plays cop", neither did Zimmerman. It's all about the security of the community and we do take it seriously or we wouldn't be a part of the Watch team.
With the information that's known about Zimmerman..I would have done likewise as Zimmerman in addressing the individual....most especially if he came toward me while engaging with the police on my phone...and considering his behavior prior.
Hey... One night I was awoken by two men in their early thirties beating on each other beneath my bedroom window at 3am!.... The one was my neighbor to my surprise. I yelled out loud enough to wake the neighborhood.....”Knock it off or the police will be here shortly and they’ll make you knock it off”.....they stopped immediately. Broke it up... and the neighbor hollowered out an apology on his way thru the hallway. I did not respond.
Yes he stalked, as in following, have a dictionary? http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalking
I'm so sick of the media giving our police force and investigators bad press... they ALWAYS make it out to be something the police did or didn't do...Additionally how our laws have tied their hands from doing their jobs. No different then how our Military men can no longer fight the enemy.
Today nobody dares to interfere with any of the crooks and those up to no good without fear of being sued or exactly what we see happening with this case.
The public is in no position whatsoever to make a judgment of guilt on Zimmerman...He IS innocent until proved otherwise. The mob mentality even came from our President and politicians ready to "take sides"....so the race war Obama wants is certainly being fanned by him and those ready to call Zimmerman guilty....as well as what the police did or did not do.
It's a disgusting mess and for this the next thing the libs will do is stop all Neighborhood watch groups. You can bet on it.
lol did you just try to establish probable cause of a crime with Wikipedia?
Post the Florida statute that was violated by Zimmerman, and the evidence released to the public that supports probable cause Zimmerman violated that statute.
Otherwise, "you lie".
You omitted the last half of that statement.....which is mis-leading in addressing the issue, so here it is:
....”it simply ‘protects’ those who would be potential victims by ‘allowing for force to be used in self-defense’.
I can't wait to see org.whodat presenting his case in court.
"Your Honor, I would like to enter Exhibit A on the record, as evidence the accused did in fact stalk Mr. Martin. I have here a definition from Wikipedia, which I think pretty much proves my case."
The evidence supports Zimmermans story according to the police investigation...and why there was no arrest. Further if your so called attempting to “stalk” someone you sure as heck aren't going to call the police and give them the step by step details AS you're doing do if your intentions are to harm an individual.
Good grief....can you not wait for the evidence before developing a concocted version of what you “Think”....?
The police report says that the officer removed the holstered KelTec FP9 from Zimmerman after handcuffing him. Maybe Zimmerman carried without a round in the chamber and removed the round before reholstering.
No I just gave you the definition of the word, and if anyone things the prosecution is not going to use it over and over and over again in the grand jury they are nuts.
If they obtain an indictment on a Wikipedia definition, they truly have no case.
That posters use of verbage is exactly what is stirring the whole dang pot!.... People are nuts to keep flamming this happening when they have zip zero evidence before them to make any call whatsoever.............Zimmerman was not stalking he was doing his job...and that while speaking to the authorities as he did so.
BTW...did you hear the recording?