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Trayvon Martin shooting: It's not George Zimmerman crying for help on 911 recording, 2 experts say
Chicago Tribune ^ | 3/31/12 | Jeff Weiner

Posted on 03/31/2012 4:44:41 PM PDT by Krankor

As the Trayvon Martin controversy splinters into a debate about self-defense, a central question remains: Who was heard crying for help on a 911 call in the moments before the teen was shot?

A leading expert in the field of forensic voice identification sought to answer that question by analyzing the recordings for the Orlando Sentinel.

His result: It was not George Zimmerman who called for help.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; trayvonmartin
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To: Krankor
There are three demo's of the software on the software site. The last compares a voice with the same voice disguised and the same voice with background music. The software salesman says "Anything over 85% is a very very high likelihood" (that it is the same voice.) If 85% is VERY VERY HIGH likelihood what does that mean for a 48% match that compares a SCREAMING agonized CRY recorded from a 911 call by a witness with a direct recorded 911 call of a SPOKEN voice? http://www.easyvoicebiometrics.com/index.php?app=cms&ns=display&ref=videowalkthrough&sid=lm29fktrqvfatr099a0610h14wa10b8p
41 posted on 03/31/2012 5:31:30 PM PDT by gopcharger
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To: Netizen
"Like This is so and so, leave a message?"

I have an answering machine for my landline, but use the default message and not a recorded message of my voice. My cell phone service is with Verizon, and my voice mail only offers a recording of me saying my first and last name at the beginning of the message. The rest of the message is provided by Verizon.

42 posted on 03/31/2012 5:31:42 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Krankor

both hired by naacp and nbc I’m sure, or maybe black al or black jesse....


43 posted on 03/31/2012 5:32:27 PM PDT by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

,,,why would the guy on top beating the other guy be yelling for help? that makes no sense.,,,

no fair using logic or common sense, we have to convict the white-hispanic guy in the court of rush to judgement public opinion


44 posted on 03/31/2012 5:34:05 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Krankor
This is total BS. The following is a direct quote from the report of Officer Timothy Smith of the SPD.

"Zimmerman was placed in the rear of my police vehicle and was given first aid by the SFD. While the SFD was attending to Zimmerman, I over heard him state "I was yelling for someone to help me, but no one would help me."

So, unless Zimmerman was clairvoyant and knew that there would be a question as to who was yelling for help, it's obvious it was Zimmerman. Sheesh. These people need to give it a rest.

45 posted on 03/31/2012 5:34:25 PM PDT by Shethink13
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To: gopcharger
There are three demo's of the software on the software site. The last compares a voice with the same voice disguised and the same voice with background music. The software salesman says "Anything over 85% is a very very high likelihood" (that it is the same voice.)

If 85% is VERY VERY HIGH likelihood what does that mean for a 48% match that compares a SCREAMING agonized CRY recorded from a 911 call by a witness with a direct recorded 911 call of a SPOKEN voice?

http://www.easyvoicebiometrics.com/index.php?app=cms&ns=display&ref=videowalkthrough&sid=lm29fktrqvfatr099a0610h14wa10b8p

46 posted on 03/31/2012 5:34:25 PM PDT by gopcharger
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To: RIghtwardHo

based on what?


47 posted on 03/31/2012 5:35:08 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: mass55th
I can't find any mention of what specific sample of Zimmerman's voice was used to compare to the 911 call (made by a resident) that contained the screams. Did I miss something in this article?

It's the sentence before the subheading "'CSI' effect."

"...Zimmerman's call to authorities minutes before the shooting provides a good standard for comparison, Primeau says, because it captures his voice both at rest and in an agitated state..."

But I do agree with you that "you can always find an expert to come up with the results you want."

48 posted on 03/31/2012 5:35:16 PM PDT by shhrubbery! (NIH!)
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To: Krankor

It was a ghost.


49 posted on 03/31/2012 5:35:25 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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bkmk


50 posted on 03/31/2012 5:36:51 PM PDT by csense
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To: RIghtwardHo

Which leads me to believe there are more exonerating facts that we haven’t heard yet.

I’m wondering what the EMTs’ reports say? Also, what if any evidence was collected at the scene? Any photos of blood spatter from Zimmerman getting his head bashed?

We don’t have all the facts yet...


51 posted on 03/31/2012 5:37:22 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Chicago newspaper? Uh uh....no cigar.

Why is it everytime this administration needs to stir the pot a little it always seems to be a newspaper from Chicago?

52 posted on 03/31/2012 5:38:28 PM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Two experts?

Dan Blather's typewriter experts discovered, that in helping Cap'n Dan prevaricate, their services were no longer in demand, so they went into the audio analysis biz.

53 posted on 03/31/2012 5:39:46 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Krankor

Two experts named Al and Jesse. Their last names are being protected by the kill George society headed by a guy named Spike!


54 posted on 03/31/2012 5:40:17 PM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: Krankor

I think the trajectory of the bullet is what is ultimately going to disprove Zimmerman’s story. Zimmerman is the son of a retired magistrate and there were obviously strings pulled for him in this case, just like there were in his well documented records of previous violence against the police etc.

If Martin had been on top of Zimmerman and shot in the chest at close range, Zimmerman’s clothes should have been covered with blood, which they were obviously not in the video.

Also, the chief of police being present and the DA driving 50 miles to be at the station on for the occasion all smack of a coverup


55 posted on 03/31/2012 5:40:25 PM PDT by demas415
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To: Tallguy

” Why is it everytime this administration needs to stir the pot a little it always seems to be a newspaper from Chicago? “

Gangsta City

Gangsta POTUS


56 posted on 03/31/2012 5:40:34 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Krankor

Group,

If you are investing yourself in Zimmerman’s innocence you are making a huge mistake. The only thing you should be investing yourself in are the facts.

If this report is true, then it’s true and we should all be thankful such data is available to help shed light on the case.

We cannot accuse Al Sharpton and his ‘race machine’ of jumping to conclusions and then do the same thing ourselves. We should all follow the facts, no matter where they lead and if they lead to Zimmermans convinction, then so be it.


57 posted on 03/31/2012 5:41:02 PM PDT by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: Vendome

I wasn’t going to go there, but since you did: most cell phone calls are digitized at some point. Spectrum is also limited. Seriously alters the frequency make up of the voice, although not in ways that are apparent to an untrained ear. Would definitely jack with computerized voice comp software, though.


58 posted on 03/31/2012 5:41:02 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Mustangman

Very true.


59 posted on 03/31/2012 5:42:56 PM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: RIghtwardHo
As a former Prosecutor of 25 years I am stunned Zimmerman wasn’t charged with Manslaughter. There is way more than enough probable cause to do so.

lol

60 posted on 03/31/2012 5:42:56 PM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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