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Trayvon Martin shooting: It's not George Zimmerman crying for help on 911 recording, 2 experts say
Chicago Tribune ^ | 3/31/12 | Jeff Weiner

Posted on 03/31/2012 4:44:41 PM PDT by Krankor

As the Trayvon Martin controversy splinters into a debate about self-defense, a central question remains: Who was heard crying for help on a 911 call in the moments before the teen was shot?

A leading expert in the field of forensic voice identification sought to answer that question by analyzing the recordings for the Orlando Sentinel.

His result: It was not George Zimmerman who called for help.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; trayvonmartin
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It is Zimmerman screaming. There's a witness. I want to hear what the FBI says.
1 posted on 03/31/2012 4:44:45 PM PDT by Krankor
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I don't understand why there is any doubt at all.

The 911 operator knows the phone number of the incoming call if it is a cell phone.

Whose number was it?

2 posted on 03/31/2012 4:50:07 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: Krankor

i can find expert astrophysicists who claim we have never gone into space because it is impossible.


3 posted on 03/31/2012 4:50:23 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (If the little things really bother you, maybe it's because the big things are going well.)
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To: Krankor

They probably interviewed a thousand “experts” and found 2 who said what that wanted to hear.


4 posted on 03/31/2012 4:51:21 PM PDT by JaguarXKE
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“The software compared that audio to Zimmerman’s voice. It returned a 48 percent match. Owen said to reach a positive match with audio of this quality, he’d expect higher than 90 percent.

“As a result of that, you can say with reasonable scientific certainty that it’s not Zimmerman,” Owen says, stressing that he cannot confirm the voice as Trayvon’s, because he didn’t have a sample of the teen’s voice to compare.”


So, did they get a recent sample of Zimmerman’s voice as somebody repeatedly bashed his head into the pavement, again?

I would reckon that could change the pitch of his “normal” voice ~just~ a bit.

Nobody, anywhere, any time *ever* got a recording of Trayvon speaking?

With cell phone videos and all the other recording devices abundant *everywhere* these days, I find that a bit odd.


5 posted on 03/31/2012 4:51:43 PM PDT by Salamander (You don't know what's going on inside of me. You don't wanna know what's running through my mind.)
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To: Krankor

Zimmmer’s father says it was George screaming and his opinion should be the only one to be considered fact.


6 posted on 03/31/2012 4:51:43 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The 911 call with screaming in the background is a third party witness.


7 posted on 03/31/2012 4:51:53 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Uncle Slayton
Some eyewitness(es) may have been close enough to discern which of the two was screaming what.

If one is able to testify "the guy on the bottom who was getting his head bashed on the ground" is the one screaming, that's compelling.

8 posted on 03/31/2012 4:54:22 PM PDT by Cboldt
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Does the third party witness know?


9 posted on 03/31/2012 4:56:23 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: JaguarXKE

2000


10 posted on 03/31/2012 4:58:00 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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Two experts? Let me guess: Are their names Jesse and Al?


11 posted on 03/31/2012 5:00:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Jamaal and Lashanda


12 posted on 03/31/2012 5:02:03 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: Cboldt

If the angle boy Trayvon was getting his head bashed I wonder if he had any head injuries? Apparently Zimmerman did.


13 posted on 03/31/2012 5:02:03 PM PDT by VastRWCon (The Middle Class is the Tea Party)
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-- Does the third party witness know? --

I don't know. I was just saying that other witnesses may be more useful than Zimmerman's father.

As for this report, it's of the same value as the "no wounds on his head" conclusion, based on a grainy police video. It's jinned up (using 'jin' as in "genie") noise to get attention to the media. When the rubber meets the road, this experts testimony would be subject to lots of scrutiny.

Notice he can't rule in Trayvon, so he's left us a mystery. If you're the jury, you have to look at other evidence. Zimmerman is banged up, Martin isn't. Who was winning the fight? Who is more likely to be yelling for help?

14 posted on 03/31/2012 5:02:39 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Krankor

The leading experts said that both certificates and selective service registration are forgeries.


15 posted on 03/31/2012 5:03:47 PM PDT by biggredd1
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To: Cboldt

Whose head was being bashed? That is who scremed for help. Chicago newspaper? Uh uh....no cigar.


16 posted on 03/31/2012 5:05:19 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Krankor

That would be impossible. Reason is that Zimmerman had a gun and there were no beating wounds on Trayvon. This has already been said.

There would not be minutes of screaming for help if George was just going to shoot Trayvon.

I heard the the screaming, that was a person being whomped.


17 posted on 03/31/2012 5:08:26 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Cboldt
The very fact that the prosecutor refused to press charges tells you everything you need to know.

Prosecutors aren't in the business of passing on winnable cases.

18 posted on 03/31/2012 5:08:26 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: JaguarXKE
They probably interviewed a thousand “experts” and found 2 who said what that wanted to hear.
DING! DING! DING!

We have a winner!

19 posted on 03/31/2012 5:08:26 PM PDT by samtheman
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"After the Sentinel contacted Owen, he used software called Easy Voice Biometrics to compare Zimmerman's voice to the 911 call screams."

I've read and re-read this article a few times. I can't find any mention of what specific sample of Zimmerman's voice was used to compare to the 911 call (made by a resident) that contained the screams. Did I miss something in this article?

Two so-called experts making this claim doesn't impress me, since you can always find an expert to come up with the results you want, if you pay them enough money.

20 posted on 03/31/2012 5:09:56 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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