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1 posted on 04/01/2012 1:35:47 PM PDT by WPaCon
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To: WPaCon

‘Art’-?! Are you KIDDING me-?! These geniuses can’t even sharpen their swords correctly- witness those many decapitation videos they put up so prolifcally. Extermination is too good for them...


2 posted on 04/01/2012 1:42:19 PM PDT by imjimbo (The constitution SHOULD be our "gun permit")
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To: WPaCon

What do you call a Jewish merchant rampaging through Europe?

Ghengis Cohen!

LOL!


3 posted on 04/01/2012 1:45:47 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: WPaCon

Is it like the “Islamic intellect” hoax?


4 posted on 04/01/2012 1:51:37 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: WPaCon; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; GOPsterinMA; randita; Sun; BillyBoy; ...

I admit, I’ve been impressesd by their architecture and pottery, and some of their cuisine, as well. They’re still a culture of bloodthirsty troglodytes.


5 posted on 04/01/2012 1:57:41 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (A chameleon belongs in a pet store, not the White House)
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To: WPaCon
There needs to be a further rationale for calling art collections from lands conquered or subdued by the forces of Islam "Islamic Art."

Without a doubt. If there were really such a thing as "Islamic" art, it would have had common characteristics throughout the geography of their infestation. Yet, we do not see anything like that. Arabic architecture is nothing more than what German, British and Indian architects have created in places like Dubai and Abu Dhabi, and Persian architecture is based on their pre-Islamic cultural heritage.

The Taj Mahal, their ultimate false claim to fame, is heavily based on Indian Hindu temple architecture:


6 posted on 04/01/2012 1:59:29 PM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: WPaCon

The Mongol conquest of the Chin, and then the Sung, led to a period in Chinese painting that principally focused on horses.

In the Il-Khanate of Persia, the ceramic and brickwork showed a marked Muslim influence. Interestingly, although the first Khanate to convert to Islam, the Golden Horde did not show such an influence.

The Chaggadids, ruling over a large population of Muslims also showed Islamic influence to a great degree, which increased under the Timurids.

The Toluids, up to the victory of Qublai Quan over his brother Arik Boka, remained largely animist, and showed few outside influences in their art.


8 posted on 04/01/2012 2:03:37 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: WPaCon

Islamic art is the same thing as Islamic peace

They don’t exist


10 posted on 04/01/2012 2:08:49 PM PDT by Popman (America is squandering its wealth on riotous living, war, and welfare.)
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To: WPaCon

While they chop up ancient buddhas and Christian artiacts

How about works of art like piss-Muhammad or Muhammad’s mother fashioned out of elephant dung


11 posted on 04/01/2012 2:09:03 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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mark


12 posted on 04/01/2012 2:12:58 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: WPaCon

The only Islamic art I have seen are the cartoons mocking muhammed. They are pretty accurate.


17 posted on 04/01/2012 2:54:43 PM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: WPaCon
It's probably as disingenuous to criticize 'Islamic Art' as not being a true form of art as making a similar criticism of "Christian Art".

There do exist discerning elements in geometry and form used in architecture by Islamic groups and Christian groups.

Compare the architecture of Spain under Islamic control vs Christian control.

Compare Alhambra in Granada Spain as a type of Islamic Architecture. (Alhambra is actually a good example of Islamic, Jewish and Christian architecture. The original construction circa 1100AD was Islamic, later added with the Jewish influenced Lion's Palace (12 lions representing the 12 tribes of Israel), and later added the Carlos V Palace by a Christian Monarch Carlos V beginning circa 1527 and completed in 1957.

Compare this to later 16th century architecture of northern Italy and the Church.

San Apollinare

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=839410&page=6

Alhambra

http://www.alhambra.org/eng/index.asp?secc=/alhambra/alhambras_guide/carlos_v_palace

19 posted on 04/01/2012 3:21:27 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: WPaCon; Fred Nerks; Cronos; cradle of freedom; nuconvert
Very good article - "Islamic Art" is a fallacy.

And, looking at Islam itself, it is more accurate to say that "Islamic Art" survived in spite of Islam rather than because of it.

Ibn 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) having said: Those who paint pictures would be punished on the Day of Resurrection and it would be said to them: Breathe soul into what you have created. (Sahih Muslim vol.3, no.5268)

The last paragraph may explain why Shia sect of Islam, influenced more by pre-Islamic Iranian (Persian) culture, post-Safavid dynasty (15 to 17 century AD), allows display of paintings, including that of Mohamad, and the Shia 12ers imams, whereas Sunnis don't.

Btw, Genghis Khan (the Monghol) was a brute; the Monghol savagery in Iran was infinitely worse than preceding Arab-Moslem invaders.

22 posted on 04/01/2012 4:15:22 PM PDT by odds
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And then there's this :

Genghis Khan understood muslims. That is why the only cities he utterly destroyed and razed to the ground and killed all the city’s inhabitants were Islamic cities. With all other non-muslim cities, he captured them and added them to his empire while allowing the citizens to keep their religions and cultures.

27 posted on 04/01/2012 4:46:50 PM PDT by Publius6961 (ItÂ’s easy to make phony promises you canÂ’t keep. - Obama, Feb23, 2012)
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My take: after 911, the Koranimals were seen as they are TOAY, and as they have been, except in periods of protracted military defeat.

Saudi Arabia and their money launderers worldwide, including their "Irish" millionaire, spent hundreds of millions promoting the islamic golden age worldwide.

Art culture is not exactly the most ethical and moral culture, and the most moneygrubbing. They give global warming idiots a run for their money.

True muslim art is more accurately "cartoons." 'Nuff said.

29 posted on 04/01/2012 5:05:25 PM PDT by Publius6961 (ItÂ’s easy to make phony promises you canÂ’t keep. - Obama, Feb23, 2012)
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To: WPaCon; SunkenCiv

And furthermore it ISN’T Mo Ham Med. It is ME HOME MUD. Get it right people.


37 posted on 04/02/2012 5:28:53 PM PDT by bigheadfred (MY PET TAPEWORM (OBIWAN) IS AN INSANE MILITARY HATING LEFTIST)
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To: WPaCon

Orham Pamuk, a Turk, won the Nobel prize for literature with an really great novel, “My Name Is Red”. It is a mystery whose subcontext is the the difficulty of Muslim artists reconciling their art with the tenets of their religion which forbids representational art.


41 posted on 04/02/2012 6:02:57 PM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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I like some of the tile work in their mosques and some of the Islamic cuisine of the Mediterranean which belongs other peoples too. For example humus crosses national and cultural boundaries

But for the most part I Don’t see much culture


45 posted on 04/02/2012 6:29:14 PM PDT by dennisw (A nation of sheep breeds a government of Democrat wolves!)
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