No, very, very little electricity is produced from oil. Coal, Natural Gas and Nuclear are the primary sources.
Posted on 04/09/2012 7:42:32 AM PDT by thackney
CNBC has Santelli doing pieces all day today on NG conversion for vehicles that can be fueled in your own garage. Sadly they will go nowhere until the politicians figure out how to tax them.
That makes no sense. You might be able to say that they have less power for a given cylinder size. You might say that a "gallon" of compressed natural gas has less energy than a gallon of gasoline. But you can run locomotives on natural gas, so power isn't a problem.
It isn't rocket science. Refueling stations for natural gas are few and far between. Tax them at the source as we do with traditional gasoline now. Home garage based refueling stations can easily be regulated just as natural gas lines are now-- by requiring a meter.
I believe the bigger issue which is far harder to overcome is politicians and powerful environmental extremist groups who do not want America to be energy independent because they are financed by OPEC interests.
Sounds like some rather spectacular vehicle crashes are just around the corner.
I saw Santelli this morning—he did a great job. The company is CNG Interstate in Edmund, OK.
Joe Kernan on Squak Box showed he is a knuckle dragger, saying that we need to get rid of all hydrocarbon infrastructure. He sounded like an Obamanoid.
Kernan says solar and wind and other “renewables” (there is no such thing as “renewable energy”; once energy is used, it is gone)
Santelli was incredulous.
CNG for fleets of trucks, buses, even cars has much more promise than coal powered Volts, etc. Economies of scale would bring it down. And gas stations, which already have a highly flammable and volatile fuel can have tanks of CNG in the ground for refueling.
We have enough natural gas for another 120 years. We thought we were going to exhaust the supply by 1980.
And we haven’t even found it all yet.
NG powered vehicles are a proven technology that has been around for decades and even refueling could be easily accomplished with existing infrastructure. The big advantage is NG powered vehicles don’t have the very limited range that will always plague electric vehicles.
Electric is oil since that is where the electricity comes from that you plug into your home to get.
Natural gas is an interesting option, but of course what happens if a car rolls over in an accident is the big worry.
Propane has been used in vehicles for many years. Mostly for large fleets of commercial vehicles used within a relatively small local area.
My thoughts as well.
It would apply more to converting a gasoline car into a CNG. It is not going to run the same on methane as gasoline.
Just heard a podcast on this very thing -
NG, even compressed, is “fluffier” than vaporized gasoline.
It has about 80% of the energy per volume entering the combustion chamber.
But, folks, at 75 cents per gasoline gallon equivalent, gimme a break! I’ll take the “gotta push my foot down 20% more” problem.
On topic, though - since NG will work, and electric cars will not, look for the left to support electrics over NG.
I think Kernan was being sarcastic. He was saying that it’s the GOV’T that wants to get away from carbon and that everything it is doing is going that way.....BICBW
“Sounds like some rather spectacular vehicle crashes are just around the corner.” -WM7
The safety of CNG and Gasoline powered engines / fuel systems is about the same. Are you really concerned about this, or are you just imagining a problem with CNG?
If you are concerned, do you have *any* data to support that concern?
No, very, very little electricity is produced from oil. Coal, Natural Gas and Nuclear are the primary sources.
Converted my gasoline generator to run on prop/NG/gas....bolt on....under $200
http://www.propane-generators.com/
What a shame, I mean sham.
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