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I've heard that the certificate of live birth from the White House states something other than Negro for the race of the father. Can anybody confirm that?
1 posted on 04/09/2012 7:47:42 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Whitehouse website copy has fathers race as African,

Mother as Caucasian.

2 posted on 04/09/2012 7:52:19 PM PDT by I am bigjohn
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To: neverdem

I believe it says “African” which to me could be plausible for the time as his father was from Africa whereas an American would have been referred to as a “Negro” although at the time, 1962, the only terms I heard were Negro or Colored.


3 posted on 04/09/2012 7:56:11 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: neverdem

it states “african” which is a term that was never used in those days

Africa is a continent. People from all the countries on that continent with negroid skin and characteristics were call “Negroes” - It was Not a term of derision, as some think it is today.

A birth certificate in that year would have said Negro. I bet you can not find one birth certificate from anywhere in the world that lists race as African (except Obama’s)

It wasn’t until the 1970’s that the word ‘negro’ was replace by “african american”

American are stupid enough to go to Africa and STILL call black people “african amercians” over there


4 posted on 04/09/2012 7:57:53 PM PDT by Mr. K (If Romney wins the primary, I am writing-in PALIN)
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To: neverdem
The problem as I see it is that due in large part to media malfeasance it became unfashionable even to be skeptical of President Obama's status under Article II of the Constitution -- much as it became unfashionable to be a climate change skeptic or, gasp, denier. There are reasons for this and all of them are discomforting.

Try this little experiment (the second of two suggested in the linked article):

Belief in President Obama’s presidential eligibility is fashionable, “birtherism” is unfashionable. At a properly fashionable cocktail party, perhaps in Washington, D.C., try this experiment: deny — or merely express skepticism — that there is global warming or that man is its principal cause. Deny — or merely express skepticism — that President Obama is constitutionally qualified under Article II of the Constitution as a “natural born citizen.” This too should perhaps just be a thought experiment for anyone desiring to be invited again.
How do we overcome this sort of problem?
5 posted on 04/09/2012 7:59:41 PM PDT by DanMiller (Dan Miller)
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On one hand one might say “give it a rest” since
Obama is now running for a second term. On the ot-
her hand it surely didn’t bother the ‘Rats to re-
hash the military record of GW when he was running
for re-election..............


6 posted on 04/09/2012 8:01:49 PM PDT by Sivad (NorCal Red Turf)
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To: neverdem

It does not matter.

Solyndra fleeced us a half-billion $$$ and Barky’s bro is still in a mud hut in Kenya.


10 posted on 04/09/2012 8:13:36 PM PDT by quantim (Obama = #theoccupier on twitter.)
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Here is how you get this issue front and center, and make a little money while doing it.

Have town meetings in large auditoriums around the country. Have 5 star communicators with all the facts succinctly stated and skillfully presented. Sell reasonably priced tickets, with advance publicity. Move the presentation to major metro areas around the country and the local media will cover it even if the national media will not.

If is done right, the national media will eventually have report the facts they seem to want to ignore.


11 posted on 04/09/2012 8:20:59 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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regardless of where he was born, he is not natural born as required by article II section 1 clause 5. the USSupreme Court in 1874 defined NATURAL BORN AS BEING BORN OF TWO U.S. CITIZENS.


14 posted on 04/09/2012 8:30:11 PM PDT by spookie
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regardless of where he was born, he is not natural born as required by article II section 1 clause 5. the USSupreme Court in 1874 defined NATURAL BORN AS BEING BORN OF TWO U.S. CITIZENS.


15 posted on 04/09/2012 8:30:11 PM PDT by spookie
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regardless of where he was born, he is not natural born as required by article II section 1 clause 5. the USSupreme Court in 1874 defined NATURAL BORN AS BEING BORN OF TWO U.S. CITIZENS.


16 posted on 04/09/2012 8:30:27 PM PDT by spookie
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It comes down whether we are a nation of laws or a nation of men.

Postmodernists believe that law is nothing more than one of a number of tools used by the powerful to oppress and exploit those with less power. So, there is not much respect for the law qua law for men of the Left like Obama.

In some ways it is like the Clinton legal transgressions relating to Paula Jones. A sitting president was given a pass by the US Senate on perjury and obstruction of justice. The legal system was perverted for the personal benefit of Bill Clinton (although he was ultimately disbarred and it was reported that Paula Jones received a large settlement.)

With respect to Obama situation, in the case of an ordinary US citizen who was caught presenting documents that appear forged in order to obtain or qualify for some important benefit, that citizen would be held to account under the law. But for Obama, it is more important that he be allowed to run for president than it is that he have to comply with legal requirements.

Historians may look back and point to the Clinton and Obama cases where, like in the age of kings, leaders of the Left were held to be above the law and this was one of the important markers in the effective loss of a constitutional republic and a nation of laws.


17 posted on 04/09/2012 8:31:41 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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Foreign governments like Russia and China probably have the goods on Obama and use it as leverage.

This is an important reason why presidents should be required to be transparent and not allowed to hide so much of their personal records, so that America is not subject to the consequences of blackmail.


18 posted on 04/09/2012 8:33:51 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: neverdem

Obama was born in Kenya.


20 posted on 04/09/2012 8:36:55 PM PDT by ILS21R (John Locke: When the social contract is broken, the people must revolt.)
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Bookmark


21 posted on 04/09/2012 8:37:11 PM PDT by conservativebabe
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” - - - we already are in a constitutional crisis. The only question now is whether we’re going to fight the fire or continue to fiddle while the Constitution burns. “

Well said.


22 posted on 04/09/2012 8:39:01 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Dictator Baby-Doc Barack's obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND U.S. Constitution.))
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26 posted on 04/09/2012 8:44:22 PM PDT by Zakeet (Obozo is to competent as an Etch-A-Sketch is to art)
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What say you, citizen?

What's for dinner?

31 posted on 04/09/2012 10:21:04 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: neverdem

One things for sure.... We simply cannot afford to suffer this clown for another 4 years.


33 posted on 04/09/2012 10:47:41 PM PDT by Bullish
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To: neverdem

I’m afraid the American people have spoken on this, and they do not want any truth contrary to their decision of 2008.


35 posted on 04/10/2012 3:51:30 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Past is prologue: The American people again let us down in this election cycle.)
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“..look like deluded wackos “

there has always been plenty here on FR that wanted to make anyone claiming his BC was fake look like ‘wackos’


36 posted on 04/10/2012 4:10:53 AM PDT by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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