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Bunkers, Food, Armor: Disaster Prep Hits Mainstream
PJ Media ^ | April 7, 2012 | Bob Owens

Posted on 04/10/2012 10:01:25 PM PDT by QT3.14

I’m not sure when the tipping point occurred, but at some point recently the “prepper” movement exploded and became mainstream.

Preppers are folks who detect the possibility of calamity and decide to increase their odds of surviving it by putting aside supplies. “Putting things by” — essential throughout most of humanity’s existence — was common in the United States up until advances in transportation logistics brought about the “just in time” shipping model. Suddenly, we could get almost any supplies delivered fresh and year-round to massive community stores. What our grandparents called “lean times” became a thing of the past for even the poorest Americans.

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KEYWORDS: emergency; good; prepper; preppers; shtf; survival; survivalist; zombie
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1 posted on 04/10/2012 10:01:32 PM PDT by QT3.14
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To: QT3.14

Its been here for a while.
Costco was selling prepper food and selling out of it 2 years ago.


2 posted on 04/10/2012 10:04:39 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Kartographer
Ping

/johnny

3 posted on 04/10/2012 10:13:46 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: QT3.14

Waitin for the Skiddles to hit the fan.


4 posted on 04/10/2012 10:14:28 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: QT3.14

I’m not quite ready to invest in an NBC-protected bunker, but I’ve long held the notion that a little preparation can pay huge dividends when something goes wrong.

I keep a stock of “extra” canned/packaged foods set aside in the pantry case I get snowed in or the like. If I don’t have cause to use it in an emergency, I’ll use it up and replace it with fresh stock when I get with six months or so of the expiration date.

I also keep several large sealed jugs of drinking water around. I like the 2-3 gallon plastic jugs I can get at superstores like Wally World, etc. They’re inexpensive and compact, so I can keep a week’s worth of emergency water on hand (figuring a gallon a day for me and the cat) in the back of a closet without problem.


5 posted on 04/10/2012 10:22:26 PM PDT by DemforBush (A Repo man is *always* intense!)
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To: DemforBush

If you have canned chicken, Veg-all, cream of chicken soup and Bisquick you can whip up a decent chicken pot pie.


6 posted on 04/10/2012 10:25:33 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: All

And who could forget how simple tuna casserole is with storable food stuffs?


7 posted on 04/10/2012 10:31:31 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
If you have canned chicken, Veg-all, cream of chicken soup and Bisquick

I respect that... but the chef in me hates you. Nothing personal.

If you have flour, fat, plenty of time, the right kind of weeds in the yard, and squirrels in the trees, you can whip up a decent pot pie. I've done it after the Oct 2008 market crash.

/johnny

8 posted on 04/10/2012 10:32:43 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: QT3.14

I have been a prepper of sorts since before 1960. Prepping really took off back around 1978 when people got a real look at Jimmy Carter’s incompetence.

Began again with Bill Clinton’s admin, fell flat after Y2K, now starting up again.

It’s common sense to keep extra canned food on hand for emergencies. That is something I learned while living on isolated farms back in the 1950s. My folks got through the depression that way.


9 posted on 04/10/2012 10:36:36 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: JRandomFreeper

I like your pie better, but we are talking fast emergency food.

Right now there’s squirrels and rabbits around.

I cant make a GOOD crust without cold butter.


10 posted on 04/10/2012 10:37:37 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I take that back.
Cold pork lard is da bomb in a crust!


11 posted on 04/10/2012 10:39:56 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: JRandomFreeper

My viet buddy had a BBQ and he had some mystery meat on one of the grills.
I studied the anatomy as it cooked and said what is that?
He said that a damn squirrel!
I said where’s you get the squirrel?

He said you see that damn tree?

LoL! The original prepper!


12 posted on 04/10/2012 10:46:01 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
I cant make a GOOD crust without cold butter.

3:2:1 Flour:Fat:Water

Any fat. Oil even. It requires practice.

I have MREs for emergency food. And none of them involve tuna casserole without an included firearm for self termination before eating.

If it goes 3 days, I'm eating off the local economy or ecology. I got lotz o' stuff around I know how to make good meals out of. Fish, wild pig, squirrel... I don't eat the local rabbit. And I know which weed are good in salads, and which ones need cooked.

And there is local volunteer parsley, thyme, cliantro, basil, and rosemary within a one minute walk. Not cultivated, just growing.

I'll eat much better, and just as quickly off the land here. My prep supplies are more geared to things I CAN'T get here, like large bags of green coffee that I can roast.

/johnny

13 posted on 04/10/2012 10:47:08 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: QT3.14

It just makes sense to have at least some weeks (or better months) worth of dry stores and canned goods stocked up all of the time. Quite apart from some zombie apocalypse, there are any number of civil emergencies, from earthquakes, storms, volcanic eruptions, or whatever that can happen.

I carry a go-bag in my vehicle that I can live out of for a week or so, until I can get home, which is my primary hole-up location.


14 posted on 04/10/2012 10:48:50 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: JRandomFreeper

LOL

I like Tuna casserole.
It must be a midwest thang.


15 posted on 04/10/2012 10:49:26 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
Cold pork lard is da bomb in a crust!

When I was working in the fine dining restaurants, I scored some hard beef kidney fat. Also called suet.

That's the best pies I ever made.

/johnny

16 posted on 04/10/2012 10:52:13 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Ramius
I keep these and a flat of bottled water in the truck just in case

They'll keep you alive

17 posted on 04/10/2012 10:54:36 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Some of the best meals I have had were in the field.


18 posted on 04/10/2012 10:56:09 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I could see that working but I have never had access to the stuff.


19 posted on 04/10/2012 10:57:40 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: QT3.14

what would be the best freeze dried food to order? Any websites that anyone has dealt with would be helpful.


20 posted on 04/10/2012 11:00:01 PM PDT by barmag25
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To: mylife
I may have cooked some of them. Nothing better than taking the crap you get from wherever it comes from, and turning it into something that you and 600 of your best friends can choke down without suicidal thoughts.

The military taught me a lot about cooking, as did working in fine dining establisments. I use skill from one to help in the other and vice-versa.

/johnny

21 posted on 04/10/2012 11:01:04 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: mylife

Some of the best meals I have had were in the field.


LOL In Nam we’d steal condoments from the mess halls. We concocted some pretty tasty meals out of C Rations. C-4 was our heat.


22 posted on 04/10/2012 11:04:11 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: JRandomFreeper

One of the best memory’s I have is of being in the Appalachians eating fresh brook trout stuffed with butter and wild onions with scrambled eggs and coffee


23 posted on 04/10/2012 11:06:07 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: barmag25
Have you ever prepared or used freeze dried or dehydrated foods? Ever? Can you live on them without menu fatigue? Do you eat out more than 5 times a week?

Training might be a better investment. Don't get me wrong, I dehydrate my own mirepoix for blanc stock for the more intense flavor. But I'm not living on dehydrated food or freeze dried anything.

Too many other options out there.

I did buy freeze dried egg product from Rainy Day, but I know how to use it, and my chickens don't lay so well in the winter.

/johnny

24 posted on 04/10/2012 11:07:21 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: unkus

I thought I invented that until I went to write the MRE cook book LOL

Boy was I late to the party!

The best tip I have for this sort of cooking is “fire makes it better” LOL


25 posted on 04/10/2012 11:08:26 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Dehydrated trinity?

That’s hardcore!


26 posted on 04/10/2012 11:09:46 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: unkus
C-4 was our heat.

It does burn nicely. I'm not big on the nitrates for food flavor.... and your experience led to the development of the fire tabs that are issue today.

Thank you for your service. C-Rats. Back when you got smokes with your meal. At least today, you get the gum and the bad butt floss.

I carry a roll of Charmin without the cardboard tube in a doubled plastic bag in my go bag.

Priorities.

/johnny

27 posted on 04/10/2012 11:11:59 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
I see that fully converted MinuteMan silos (ultimate survival condo) are going for $6 - $7 million.

yitbos

28 posted on 04/10/2012 11:15:37 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: mylife

Did you really write an MRE cookbook?

We had one early MRE meal and I can’t remember what it was. The C-4 would cook the hell out of anything.


29 posted on 04/10/2012 11:17:12 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: mylife
I'm very serious about good stock. I had beef shank marrow on artisian toasted bread for late supper tonight. Whatever it takes. Brown stock or blanc.... the dehydrated mirepoix makes stock better. Just don't try to brown the dehydrated mirepoix. It doesn't work. But added later to a brun.... with a burgundy, reduce au sec... mmmmmmm. And marrow... cooked right on crustini cooked in the house.

I'm poor. Seriously poor. But I will eat good.

$1.70 for 3/4 pound of the shanks. 2 meals.

/johnny

30 posted on 04/10/2012 11:18:22 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: unkus

No. I was going to, but then I realized there are millions like me and that it had been done already.


31 posted on 04/10/2012 11:20:45 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: bruinbirdman
I really want those rich guys to make it. I can sell them food when they get tired of MREs and crappy freeze dried stuff.

And I'm all about making a buck with my skills.

/johnny

32 posted on 04/10/2012 11:21:39 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Eatin good in the hood ;)

Pho Tai Nam is like a drug for me.

Roast 15 lb of marrow bones...


33 posted on 04/10/2012 11:23:27 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: QT3.14; Kartographer; 2ndDivisionVet

ping.


34 posted on 04/10/2012 11:23:46 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Thanks, johnnie.

We had “Heat Tabs” but preferred C-4.

We’d get whole cartons of smokes and destroy what we didn’t

use so Charlie didn’t get them. Some guys would urinate

into a pack of smokes and leave it where it could be

seen. “Happy smokes, Charlie”.

Charmin is good to have. LOL


35 posted on 04/10/2012 11:23:54 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: mylife
Pho.... I know what I'm having for breakfast tomorrow. Or later today... whatever.... Slurp.

So many kinds. I've never had bad, except I'm not big on lungs. I just don't like 'em.

My younger daughter's married family is Cambodian, and I can get real nuc mam made 'fresh'.

/johnny

36 posted on 04/10/2012 11:28:51 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

really want those rich guys to make it. I can sell them food when they get tired of MREs and crappy freeze dried stuff.
And I’m all about making a buck with my skills.


I like your thinking.


37 posted on 04/10/2012 11:31:08 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: unkus
I was told I'd never move from E-6 as long as I smoked. That's how it is these days.

And they were right. I never made E-7. And I still smoke. Eff 'em.

/johnny

38 posted on 04/10/2012 11:31:31 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Never have tried freeze dried or dehydrated foods. I was wondering about the taste and the cost of packets that could be used for hunting and fishing trips.

My hens laying tends to fall off in the winter as well, even though North Ga. winters are more mild than most areas. I did have golden comets but after switching my chickens three years ago to leghorns the fall off wasn’t that bad.


39 posted on 04/10/2012 11:31:38 PM PDT by barmag25
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To: JRandomFreeper
I can sell them food when they get tired of MREs and crappy freeze dried stuff.

The freeze dried and dehydrated are really not that bad. I keep the freeze dried in the very deep larder and use the dehydrated regularly. From soups to stir fry is ok. Never really ordered the prepared dishes just the basics such as vegetables, meats and other items.

The dehydrated I get from Honeyville. Just found it to be a better deal for shelf space than canned. It takes up less space, is fresher and better tasting. Of course I have multiple sources of water. YMMV.
40 posted on 04/10/2012 11:31:46 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

.....and I can get real nuc mam made ‘fresh’.

No thanks, LOL


41 posted on 04/10/2012 11:34:41 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: barmag25
Order samples. Feed them to your family for an entire meal.

See how it goes.

Menu fatigue is a science. It's a real thing. I've been to a conference on it.

And it's ugly. In extremis, people die from not eating, going crazy, or stealing. All over food.

There are some that are great with it every day forever. But there aren't many of those folks.

/johnny

42 posted on 04/10/2012 11:36:22 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: unkus
C-4 was our heat.

Great stuff... worked fast! Just don't try to stomp it out if Sir Charles decided to invite his self over for dinner!

43 posted on 04/10/2012 11:37:48 PM PDT by JDoutrider (Impeach! Incarcerate! Deport!)
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To: PA Engineer
I dehydrate my own, when I get good deals and have an excess of what I can consume. Just like our ancestors. Imagine that. Those guys were pretty smart.

/johnny

44 posted on 04/10/2012 11:38:24 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I had my last cig last June. I’m using Totally Vapor “torpedo” e-cigs and I like it. I keep some “Commit” lozenges on hand if the power goes out and I can’t charge my batteries.
I’d smack a liberal and take his smokes if I had to, I guess. Lots of libs smoke.


45 posted on 04/10/2012 11:39:54 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: unkus
I actually eat it. A lot. Yes, it smells like dead ##*@& #wat, but it grows on you. It's no worse than the kimchee that I'm making now, or the sauerkraut that I started at the same time.

I can do things like that because I'm single. ;)

/johnny

46 posted on 04/10/2012 11:42:32 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

In before the ping (IBTP). I do both. This years garden should be interesting. I’m putting an experiment involving an automating raised garden system to the test. Will report as it progresses. I prep not so much for my immediate family, but the knowledge of having many dependents if the SHTF. I’ll need a lot of Zanax if that is the case. Not for the SHTF, but for the extended family. ;-)


47 posted on 04/10/2012 11:42:47 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: JDoutrider

Hey! I was hoping you’d get in on this if you saw the thread. Good seeing you.


48 posted on 04/10/2012 11:43:19 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I know quite a few people that have loaded up on freeze dried food. They always tell me I should as well to be prepared. I have been thinking about it and will probably look into supplementing my food supply with it. Mostly for camping trips with the kids and stuff.

We garden and can most of our current food supply and when added to what my wife stocks up from couponing we have a good sized food supply. Just been thinking about extra. Just in case.

Who does the weekly prepper thread?


49 posted on 04/10/2012 11:45:54 PM PDT by barmag25
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To: JRandomFreeper

LOL You’re tougher than me. The closest thing to that stuff I use is sauerkraut on Hebrew National Hot dogs.


50 posted on 04/10/2012 11:47:04 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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