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ZIMMERMAN CHARGED WITH SECOND DEGEE MURDER
ap ^ | april 11,2012 | pawpawrick

Posted on 04/11/2012 3:19:09 PM PDT by pawpawrick

MIAMI (CBSMiami) – George Zimmerman has been charged with second-degree murder for the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, according to the Associated Press.

Additionally, Zimmerman has been taken into custody, but it hasn’t been revealed where he is being held.

CBSMiami has confirmed that State Attorney Angela Corey, who was appointed as a special prosecutor in the case, will hold an announcement about the charges at 6 p.m. in Jacksonville.

That press conference can be viewed LIVE starting at 6 p.m. by clicking here.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: angelacorey; angelacory; arrest; bizarroworld; george; georgezimmerman; justicefortrayvon; murder; preciousvictim; seconddegreemurder; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman; zimmermancharged
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To: butterdezillion
By charging Zimmerman with a crime, this gal is disbelieving that it was self-defense then. Does she have to have probable cause to disbelieve it? Is there any way that she would be held accountable to actual evidentiary standards on something like that?

1. Yes

2. No. The burden of proof is on Zimmerman

3. There is a general duty not to prosecute unless the prosecutor is of the opinion that a crime has been committed and a conviction can be obtained. Prosecutorial discretion is pretty wide, though. The check on it is that when the case gets to court, the judge's first determination is whether there's evidence to believe a crime has been committed. If he's not buying, the case gets tossed.

461 posted on 04/11/2012 9:10:08 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: trappedincanuckistan
By the way, I think it's kind of funny that the New Black Panthers, because of another current case being prosecuted by Angela Corey, "wants to call on the Black and Hispanic community to support a petition drive to have State Attorney Angela Corey recalled from office."

I wonder if they'll pull back on that petition now?

462 posted on 04/11/2012 9:10:31 PM PDT by PhatHead
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To: PhatHead

Really? I didn’t know that lol.


463 posted on 04/11/2012 9:11:58 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: pawpawrick

...”In 2006, Corey was fired by Harry Shorstein, former state attorney for Florida’s 4th Judicial Circuit. He said the firing stemmed from a complaint by a law school intern that Corey was abusive toward women. Corey responded with letters criticizing the intern’s professor and dean, Shorstein said. “I said that was unprofessional, you must apologize. She refused.”

Corey has said she was fired because she had announced her intention to run for state prosecutor to replace Shorstein.”

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-04-11/corey-florida-prosecutor-trayvon-martin/54189310/1


464 posted on 04/11/2012 9:12:07 PM PDT by KyGeezer
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To: ArmstedFragg
In this case, because of the racial tension and 24/7 reporting, the prosecutor had no choice but to file charges. If she had not, there would have been hell to pay. After a lengthy trial where all of the evidence will come out, hopefully cooler heads will prevail. But I do not think that will happen in this case. If Zimmerman is acquitted, the black panthers, Sharpton, Jackson, and all of the other race baiters will be up in arms and a mini race war will break out. Be sure to have plenty of ammo on hand! Lock and load!
465 posted on 04/11/2012 9:13:42 PM PDT by physcitech (God only knows)
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To: ladyjane

Agreed...in fact, disgusting is not stern enough. Traitorous, treacherous.

The fact is, a group of militry dressed militants put a one million dollar bounty on the head of a US citizen who had not been charged with anything, and then threatened to wage civil war with blood in the streets.

NOTHING has been done to these criminals...and yet now, the man who defended himself while being beat is arrested on 2nd degree murder charges.

Like I say, perhaps there is more evidence that contradicts Zimmerman and the witnesses...it will come out.

If not...if there is no absolutely damning evidence, then Zimmerman should be acquitted.

And the State of Florida should immediately arrest the people conspiring to kidnap, murder, and wage rebellious war.

Holder is an American hating, anti-constitutional ideolog just like his boss.

The Man who Despises America
http://www.jeffhead.com/obama-time.htm

America at the Crossroads of History
http://www.jeffhead.com/crossroads.htm


466 posted on 04/11/2012 9:17:32 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Houmatt
There's a difference between substance and form. On form, no, on substance, yes. I prefer prosecutors who take the “more in sorrow than in vengeance” approach. Make the statement, announce the decision, and wrap it up. When you get into “justice for Trayvon”, you're really exceeding your roll. That stuff also has a chance to show up in an appeal where the argument that the prosecution polluted the jury pool is sometimes made. It's just poor form to me.

As far as substance went, I thought she adequately described the process.

What was your take?

467 posted on 04/11/2012 9:19:00 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Houmatt

Make that “role”.


468 posted on 04/11/2012 9:20:24 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: ArmstedFragg

All anybody can go on is evidence. Or at least that’s how it’s supposed to be.

Can you think of evidence that would undo the evidence of the witnesses, 911 call, and Zimmerman’s injuries? Obviously if there were irreconcilable discrepancies in the accounts or evidence that would negate their value. But surely the police would have been looking for discrepancies as well.


469 posted on 04/11/2012 9:24:50 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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470 posted on 04/11/2012 9:27:44 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Spunky
I am thinking that if there was no charge there would have been riots in the streets and it would have gotten really ugly. If she had charged him with something less then 2nd degree a jury might have found him guilty of that. But she knows he is not guilty so she charges him with something high enough that she is pretty sure a jury would never find him not guilty of.

I agree. I think you've covered it. It's actually a very smart plan, because it's a defense against the REAL attack, which is not against Zimmerman, but a political sabotage designed to incite race riots by the filthy Democrats as part of a political attack against all of America. They think they've got it nailed - damned if you do, damned if you don't. But nobody - absolutely nobody in the universe - can stretch things out into nowhereland like a prosecutor's office. And that's exactly what's going to happen here. And when the street racists are long bored out of their tired little vicious minds, and Obama's long lost the election, Zimmerman will finally be acquited - in peace.

471 posted on 04/11/2012 9:27:47 PM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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To: butterdezillion
We don't have access to all the evidence, so I don't know what all of it shows. I can speculate about possibilities that could be inculpatory, but after the four hours we spent putting away the speculation about stalking, I don't want to risk going through that again. Let's just wait and see what the evidence shows at trial. The only thing that's clear is that the Prosecutor concluded it shows a crime has been committed and Zimmerman committed it. Now she gets to try to prove that to a judge and jury.
472 posted on 04/11/2012 9:36:55 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Cinnamontea
But what will happen if Zimmerman is found guilty?

He will become yet another sacrifice on the altar of black racism. He will be sold down the river by the government that is deathly afraid of rocking the boat. The government is willing to do *anything* - to pay money, to not prosecute, to catch and release, to release convicts early, and to do many other things simply because the 10% minority is ready and willing to wreck the country if their demands are not met.

Isn't it funny that no one seems to worry what normal, decent people -- the majority of people -- will think or do?

If Z is convicted then normal, decent people will, as usual, do nothing. Normal, decent people aren't likely to go berserk and start riots. The ultimate "normal" person (one that is too intelligent) will say "it's all my fault, I could have written a letter to my Congressman, and now it has come to this. Shame on me."

This scenario, as matter of fact, unfolded in pre-WW2 Germany. Jews were alienated, oppressed, arrested - and they did nothing. Not every Jew even tried to escape Germany, let alone forming a rebellion. Many whites in the USA are like that - they think too much, they have things and people to worry about, and they can convince themselves that the troubles will disappear on their own. But they never do.

An abyss separates US blacks and everyone else in the country. That abyss is carefully maintained by race hustlers and by the government who pays for such a lifestyle. The new privileged class wants more, and the government - due to financial crisis - will not be able to give more. At some point the demands of the minority physically can't be met. What happens after that is a sad story.

Perhaps Zimbabwe, or South Africa, could be examples. There black Africans are a majority, though. But that doesn't matter. Communists in Russia in 1917 weren't even close to majority; but they influenced other people - and as result they were in control. Obama's regime is not a majority of the country even if you count every single lowly TSA rape-scan operator. But they tell us how high to jump and how low to drop our pants at airports. Being a majority only allows you to go Pol Pot on the rest of the population.

473 posted on 04/11/2012 9:46:22 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: butterdezillion

[[I’m debating whether to approve that comment on my blog because it’s just an attempt to inject race,]]

Don’t approve it- it’s an attempt ot inject racist illogic- We have the testimony of martin’s own father that hte screams were ‘definately not’ his son’s screams, and we have testimony from george’s friends and family that hte scream/’s were infact george’s- IF the person on your blopg has evidence refuting those FACTS of hte caSE, LET HTEM present them- their reasoning as to why it had to be trayvonm is as you say illogical


474 posted on 04/11/2012 9:48:35 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: nomobs

I disagree. IF he manages to get acquitted in Florida, I have no doubt in my mind that the racists in this administration will not hesitate to go after him.

They need a sacrificial lamb to feed to the racist mobs - evidence and guilt be d@mned!! This isn’t about justice, it is about mob rule and appealing to the masses.

In case you aren’t getting it, the breakdown of our society is well underway.


475 posted on 04/11/2012 9:51:44 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - Another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: Gator113
We certainly aren’t. Obama, and his ilk, have taken race relations back by decades.

“Trust” between the races has been deliberately undermined and in some cases, completely destroyed.


Yeah, my boss said the same thing when we were talking about the 2008 election. He said that "race relations have been pushed back to 1970 at the very least." I know myself, except if I know the person, I'm more wary around Blacks as of late. It should not be that way, but when I hear the stories of Black on White (or others) crime, it pays to be on guard. Race relations have always been touch and go but the progress made in the last 40 or 50 years has largely been erased.
476 posted on 04/11/2012 10:00:08 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: tobyhill

I agree. First thought that came to my head when I heard this news was “I’ll be darned, they caved in.” Too much pressure I guess. Does anyone stand their ground anymore? How could there now all of a sudden be enough evidence to convict?


477 posted on 04/11/2012 11:25:33 PM PDT by kelly4c
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To: DustyMoment

“This isn’t about justice, it is about mob rule and appealing to the masses.”

This is exactly why our Founding Fathers gave us the right to a jury trial. Unlike prosecutors (and judges), juries don’t have to answer to the electorate. Convincing twelve jurors beyond a reasonable doubt is going to be a big hurdle.


478 posted on 04/11/2012 11:29:38 PM PDT by juno67 (ui)
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To: DustyMoment

“This isn’t about justice, it is about mob rule and appealing to the masses.”

This is exactly why our Founding Fathers gave us the right to a jury trial. Unlike prosecutors (and judges), juries don’t have to answer to the electorate. Convincing twelve jurors beyond a reasonable doubt is going to be a big hurdle.


479 posted on 04/11/2012 11:29:49 PM PDT by juno67 (ui)
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To: Greysard

That does make sense. I can see how it would help Zimmerman (provided of course he’s proven innocent which is what the evidence or lack thereof as of now shows)because otherwise, sad as the circumstances may be....if he is never tried in a court of law he’ll have to watch his back forever.


480 posted on 04/11/2012 11:33:05 PM PDT by kelly4c
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