Posted on 04/13/2012 9:53:42 AM PDT by dragnet2
Los Angeles Police Department officials described the shooting death of a 19-year-old man after a bizarre high-speed chase on the 101 Freeway "tragic" but defended the officers' actions.
Eight Los Angeles police officers fired more than 90 rounds, killing him.
LAPD officials will review several factors related to the incident, including communication tactics and whether the large number of rounds fired endangered other freeway motorists.
Police said they noticed Abdul Arian driving erratically near the Northridge Fashion Center on Wednesday and tried to pull him over. But he refused, instead taking them on a high-speed pursuit through city streets
He drove a black Crown Victoria, which his uncle said was a retired police cruiser that had been purchased at an auction.
During the chase, Arian called 911, and according to a partial transcript of the call released by the LAPD, he claimed to have a gun and made threats to the police.
The dispatcher, according to the release, pleaded for Arian to surrender, saying "I don't want you to hurt yourself."
Arian responded with expletives and warned that the police are "going to get hurt."
Police did not recover a gun from the scene.
After cutting across lanes, Arian stopped, jumped out of his car and began running on the freeway. Facing police while back-stepping, he extended both arms with clasped hands, a gesture captured on video by a KTLA-TV news helicopter.
But as Arian headed toward the shoulder of the freeway in the vicinity of a vehicle that had pulled over, he turned again and assumed what police called a "shooting stance." He appeared to wield a weapon. His uncle believed it was a cellphone. Sources familiar with the investigation who were not authorized to speak publicly confirmed that it was a cellphone.
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Sometimes a shot to the knee is all that is required.....
Never bring a cell phone to a gun fight. Hope he didn’t leave any baby mamas.
There is always a lot of Monday morning quarter backing by people who never have or never well.
If there were 90 cops there, that would be just one round per cop.
:)
Good point.
They are most certainly singular experiences that cannot be duplicated or even explained with full satisfaction to the listener.
What people never see is the officer(s), who are puking their guts out from the adrenaline or crying their eyes out from the emotional dump that happens after shooting someone. Or seeing an innocent killed as a result of the maniac fleeing.
He was the type of Muslim I like. Committed Suicide without a bomb.
nag nag nag
I have never been in a high speed chase or been shot at. I've raced cars and been the victim of a gang fight. I've wrestled, boxed and played college football. But I'll admit, there is nothing more thrilling than actual life or death situation unfolding at high intensity. Folks that have never experienced prolonged adrenaline rush don't understand the “high” you get. And fear causes the same anatomical reaction.
The object of training is not to reduce the adrenaline rush as much as condition the body for an anticipated response. It is to condition your body with some experience that will reduce the affects on your body in high stress situations. It makes actions and reactions more natural in the face of a life or death situation. I do know that I can't write my name after running a mile in 6m 30s (fine motor skills).
My comment was in support of LEO. But your argument suggested we shouldn't expect so much out of them because they are just acting like any other normal person. I have more respect for these guys than that and think that they should be given more credit. Consequently, I completely support what they did whether 20 guys fired one shot or 1,000. It doesn't matter. The bad guy is dead for good reason. Case closed.
The fact that some here are bantering about how many rounds were fired is rather humorous.
There may be a few photos of him from his pee-wee footbal days.
That’s why DHS needs 450 million rounds.
Ok, my apologies. It’s usually a beatdown in here about amount of rounds, accuracy, so on.
I have not had to open fire on a suspect yet after a pursuit but I have been the second car responding after the primary did. Good solid guy, but rounds everywhere. I don’t judge him bad, I believe I would have done the same thing.
Same deal though, he was flourished, and was moving laterally to cover and shooting at the suspect, not so much to hit, but more to suppress him. He did get a hit in that ended the fight.
At the time I think 37 was actually routed along Bluff Road ~ according to Google.com this road was sometimes marked as 37A on maps because 37 used to follow this route.
By the time I graduated 465 was open all the way around town (so there was still plenty of construction going on at the time of the big shoot out on 37).
Google noted that Bluff is currently "dead ended" before it gets South to 465. I don't think it was at that time.
If you recall there was a section that had an Up Down Thrill Ride where you'd gun the engine and everybody would lose their lunch ~ not too far past the greenhouses. That piece of 37 still existed that day as did the little line of "killer trees" that I pulled behind.
“The guy does seem like he may have been a mental case or on drugs,..”
If Obama had a son, he might look just like this guy... :)
“Most of them shoot Glocks...”
LOL! And btw, police handgun accidents (while cleaning, dropped, or whatever) are rarely anthing but with Glocks...safety issues...
Praise God, I'm alive!
BTW, when I first moved to DC the Interstate system was fairly complete in Indiana as far as the main routes city to city were concerned, and Indianapolis still had construction going on several big interchanges so you'd have that same condition you had when Mitch did the Super 70 project.
As you drove East through Ohio you found quickly that the trips through the cities really needed to be undertaken in the day time. They had US 40 routed through all the bad parts of Dayton, Springfield (Oh my Gawd), Columbus, Zanesville (which isn't even that big but you try that on Old 40 at midnight), and then you got to the bridge to Wheeling and you could just cry ~
Once upon a time, before the speed limits, and just as the whole system extended intact from Naptown to DC, I made it from Alexandria to the East Side in somewhere between 7 and 8 hours. I said to myself "WOW"!
And sometimes when you shoot somebody in the knee they shoot back :)
“Driving back to college one day...”
Long before my college days, my Granddad brought me a bicycle...it was a rebuilt bike with skinny tires...and I was 8 years old (1944). He brought it to Des Moines on the train. Dad hitched up a trailer to the car and we went to the train station to get the bike - it was after dark. I decided I would ride home in the trailer with the bike and my Dad said ok. We had only gone a couple blocks and we heard sirens, then say a car pass through an intersection ahead of us with police cars in hot pursuit. And then we heard multiple gun shots, including shotguns. Needless to say, I decided that being inside the car for the rest of the trip home was much safer!
There are some experiences in our lives we never forget. And btw, we found out later that the perps were ‘escapees from the Amana Colonies’ out for a joy-ride in a stolen car. And apparently they were from a very dark skinned family in the Amana’s. :)
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