Posted on 04/13/2012 12:13:14 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
Clarification: The quote came from Pravious, not from me. I was responding to what he said.
I'm aware of delegate math issues and don't know what the real numbers are at this point, except that Romney is ahead by some number greater than Gingrich and less than what he needs to be nominated on the first ballot.
In other words, there's still time, but time is quickly running out.
A Romney Presidency, like GWB’s, would result in more of what the Republican establishment has always brought us: bigger government, continued attacks in individual liberty, etc., etc. Only it’s all done by a person who purports to be a conservative - making conservatism look like statism.
I was furious when GWB/Paulson started the bailouts. That was the end of the Republican party as anything resembling a party that espoused free-markets. GWB began the Federal government’s embrace of islam, which, since it virulently attacks all non-muslims by the continual rantings of it’s leaders (they constantly speak of hate and murder of non-muslims), it is squarely against America, her citizens and Constitution.
It’s patently obvious that establishment Republicanism has been and is bringing us to the same point as the New/Far Left communism (which has quite thoroughly infiltrated the Democratic party). Establishment Republicans are just going a bit slower and they’ve told themselves they’re conservative so many times they actually believe their own words. They are simply sticking their head in the sand.
France, Spain, Italy, etc., are all going to economically collapse in the not too distant future, and this may well happen during the next Presidential term. Only Germany can internally produce what they need for their own consumption and still have a reasonable standard of living; while their enormous trade surplus may go away, they still can get along by themselves.
Romney, being of the U.S. “big finance” community, sees the world as they do. His reaction would simply be to prop everything up by issuing more Treasury debt which would continue to be monetized by the Federal Reserve and the primary dealers (the core of “big finance”). American investment capital would continue the tsunami-scale outflow from the U.S. to China and other nations, as big finance thinks that overseas investments are the “way to go”. When profits are made overseas, big finance then wants to repatriate the profits - tax free ! It would simply be “business as usual” under Romney, which, bottom line, would still make the American economy the Titanic.
When things get economically disastrous, if a Republican is in the White House, the New/Far Left (ayers, etc.) would stoke up the civil unrest machine and try to finish off the current government/Constitution. On the other hand, if nobama is reelected, then when the crash begins in earnest and the American economy starts to really get trashed, the Far Left would BE the administration, and would respond FDR style, simply using it to complete more government takeovers. The difference is, if the New/Far Left is in the WH, they run the military and law enforcement, so they do not want to see domestic confrontation with them. If the New Left is not in the WH, then they oppose those establishments, since they would be run by actual loyal Americans. Personally, I think the Far left is mistaken in the idea that widescale unrest can be fomented in the U.S., for reasons that they really don’t understand. I think they are also mistaken about how much state takeover they can accomplish when they are in power, even in the event of economic catasrophe. IMHO, the way things will work out is not that bad, and much more boring than one might think.
Given an economic situation that continually worsens in terms of consumer price inflation and unemployment, even to drastic levels of perhaps 100% and 50%, respectively, the populace will keep weeding out the most immoral, incompetent and corrupt politicians at the local, State and Federal levels until the situation improves. Communities all across America will simply not tolerate seeing their homes and businesses trampled; though they may be struggling financially, IMHO they will naturally band together to keep themselves safe if necessary.
IMHO, the days of establishment media and government education are numbered, as the populace is growing tired of their subversion.
IMHO, it is not a single political “evil person” or single political “savior” functioning as President that will ultimately make the difference in America’s fate.
What is most important is the nation turning back to God, for if this does not happen, then more and more Americans will continue to turn to all sorts of ideas that are bad for them, and continue to insist that these pursuits are their right, or don’t matter that much to other people. These bad pursuits then become their master; they are enslaved to them. Expecting such a population to produce leaders who are competent and not corrupt is, of course, futile. We certainly have become a wicked and perverse generation; surely God is a merciful God who would take us back if we turn to him.
My vote for Mitt Romnay is not really a vote for Mitt Romnay, but rather a vore to save America. I know Obama cannot be trusted to do that, and I am not sure if Mitt can be either. In this case better the devil that I do not know then the devil I already have.
Better re-think your position Jim.
Maybe the Tea Party changes this a little. Maybe the next Republican president will care more about deficits and cutting spending than the last one, but people who hope for a lot more than that are going to be disappointed. So far as I can see that's more or less the nature of politicians and voters, save in truly exceptional circumstances.
Forty, fifty years ago when all this Republican elite talk started, the liberals and moderates in the party really were an elite -- people like the Rockefellers, Lodges, Scrantons. Most of the wealth of the country was in the Northeast, and a lot of it was in families who'd had money for decades. And many of those old money types were Republican leaders and quite liberal. The South and West, by contrast, were poorer and less developed, and had real grievances.
But if Karl Rove and Ann Coulter are today's Republican elite -- well, the elite just isn't what it used to be. It's not people who've had power for generations anymore. It's people who are one election or one Washington job separated from the rest of us. No doubt they get impatient with the rest of us as obstacles to having everything their way, but I doubt they hate or despise us.
If Establishment Republicans get elected in Arizona, Utah, South Carolina, or Nebraska as well as in Maine, New York, Massachusetts, or Vermont, that's another change. Some people are pushing a regional conflict within the party that doesn't take into account that politicians from different regions tend to behave in similar ways after they're elected.
Yeah Ive seen it. Still better than bowing to mecca to a pedophile moon cult of death murderer aka Mohammed.
I picked up “Romney’s 573 bounded delegates” from the GOP site, and I think people should be aware of the real delegates count. Santorum had 202, and Gingrich 137.
The lamestream media include the unbounded delegates in Romney’s count, but not in Gingrich’s (who would be then at 149). Amazing, no?
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I know, that’s why it was sarcasm.
I am certainly solid in the fact that voting for our conservative candidate , Former speaker Newt Gingrich, gives me great honor...I can stand before my maker knowing it is the right choice and stays within those very principles, morals and God's laws.
Some would say we ARE fighting about death, the death of our nation, others have forgotten who they are in their desperation to unseat Obama by supporting Romney.....and they ARE supporting all which he stands for by giving him their 'For' vote....and his policies fly in the face of all the above.
Anytime ;)
I agree that real progress is only going to happen by electing as many real conservatives down the ticket as possible. That’s more important than who holds the top spot. And that’s what’s going to hold next president’s feet to the fire. But I would rather those feet belonged to Romney than Obama, the communist radical.
How do you know that those who refuse to support Romney, who are vehemently against him, how do we know they aren't actually Democratic Operatives who have infiltrated Conservative sites, and whose sole mission is to deflate Republicans and Independents leaning toward Conservative?
Joseph Smith's Boasting and Polygamy Denial Sermon - Sunday, May 26, 1844
I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him; but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet.
Test your knowledge of Mormons and Muslims
..while we will be "gods, even the sons of God" (D&C 76:58), we will never be at the same level as them or stop worshipping them, but we will be like them and enjoy a quality of life similar to theirs.
"We do not believe that you must be a member of our Church to go to heaven. However, we believe that all men are rewarded in heaven based on their works and the type of lives that they lived in mortality. There are certain blessings in Heaven which are only available to Latter-day Saints who have been true and faithful to the sacred covenants that they have made with God. These exclusive blessings will be discussed later in this essay. We do everything in our power to help the rest of the human family prepare themselves so that they might be worthy to receive these blessings also."
*ahem* The owner of this site is a Dem operative? Really?
And Romney is NOT a conservative. He isn't even a Republican.
Top Romney adviser: Mitt will erase his conservative positions once he’s the nominee
You folks are impossible we cant undo more Obama supreme court picks and other BS he doing. Folks need to seriously need to think about that and the long term future of this nation.
I voted for newt but am voting for anyone over the communist muzzie. This guy is the worst president ever and you want folks to go aw shucks Im such a pious little person Im not voting for anyone let the chips fall where they may. Thats such a simplistic naive worldview. We will not recover after Obamas second term and remember that people told all of you that when the nations collapses or changes to all out authoritarian BS.Im done here on this thread to much ignorance and backbiting.
I agree.
I think that you had better take a darn good look at Obamney's record in Massachusetts. Obamney doesn't have the nomination. It is imperative that people vote for Gingrich in the primaries and stop Obama's twin.
This is powerful stuff!
So, tell me, who do we vote for? Romney=Obama=a vote for crimes against humanity.
Mitt Romney created the contraceptive/abortifacient mandate and Obamacare, both of these men reject the Constitution on freedom of religion.
Is it a matter of voting for vice presidents instead of presidents? Don’t vice-presidents just go to state funerals?
Two quotes from Evangelium Vitae of Blessed Pope John Paul II:
(1) When a parliamentary or social majority decrees that it is legal, at least under certain conditions, to kill unborn human life, is it not really making a “tyrannical” decision with regard to the weakest and most defenceless of human beings? Everyone’s conscience rightly rejects those crimes against humanity of which our century has had such sad experience. [EV 70]
(2) In the case of an intrinsically unjust law, such as a law permitting abortion or euthanasia, it is therefore never licit to obey it, or to “take part in a propaganda campaign in favour of such a law, or vote for it”. [EV 73]
So, basically, it’s a crime against humanity to vote for Romney or Obama as that is a direct vote for total war on children in the womb by these totally cowardly, anti-American, abusers of power out to harm children. Is one really better than the other? Really? Tell me why…
Did I say the owner of the site? no I didn’t, but I’m asking about those that are cheering him on. How do you know their sole purpose isn’t to deflate Republicans and Tea Party people?
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