Posted on 04/17/2012 4:47:30 PM PDT by Williams
Well it's been about 13 years forgot my initial sign in name, so pretty much from the beginning.
Never wanted to write a Free Republic Opus, love reading news stories here and commenting every day.
Would rather not go out in anger seems pointless.
Then today the owner of the site called me a RINO (I'm not), surrender monkey (not) and told me to write my opus and get out.
My sin was fighting with someone who suggested Obama losing in the latest poll is "bad news".
I could list all the insanity of what is going on here. I've tried to approach Jim Robinson in email to gently suggest the problems we are facing. It's clear from that he is not interested in discussing and resolving anything, which is a shame.
But what kind of man, American, conservative will I be if I worry more about losing my 12 year old screen name versus standing up to people who are espousing the advisability of reelecting Barack Hussein Obama, and yes if I fail to stand up to the owner of a site for calling me a liberal when I am a proud conservative?
What Jim Robinson is doing cannot work because first of all he is NOT attacking the posters who say it is best to reelect Obama. He's offended by anyone who says he is thereby supporting Obama. But he doesn't mind calling us names when we attack the pro Obamas.
OK folks, it's not going to work. You can't really oppose Obama's reelection if you may also oppose the republican's election.
Free Republic has become a house divided against itself and it cannot stand.
I'm a conservative I love my country, I have to wish away to the cornfield anyone who would assist in the reelection of Obama, from whatever misguided motivations.
I stand with Dick Cheney. The other day I had to fight with someone disparaging Cheney here. They were not criticized by the owner.
Jim Robinson owes me an apology. Not planning on getting one. The sad fact is I am not writing this because I'm offended. It's because I want to no longer assist here in the destruction of my country by those who will, to varying degrees, assist in Obama's reelection.
Six or seven liberals on the Supreme Court? Maybe atomic destruction down the pike after our disarmament. Israel destroyed. 2nd Amendment neutered. Obamacare used to deny people medical care based on age and political beliefs. Racial strife. A welfare socialist state. US attorneys going after republicans.
My wife is a cancer survivor who reasonably fears that in the future they will deny her care because she is a registered republican. And she's no RINO, she hates Obama and she won't read Free Republic stories anymore because of what is going on here.
We have a real country and real lives out here that go beyond Jim Robinson's ill advised name calling against sincere conservatives who dare to disagree with him.
So F anyone who calls me a RINO for standing with Dick Cheney and against Barack Obama. I hate RINO's and I despise misguided so called conservatives who do anything to reelect Obama.
13 years, but it's nothing when put to the wall on my beliefs against the left wing democrat party. I have too many mirrors to look in. The people here who are every day posting that it will be best to reelect Obama, should be thrown off. Instead, well...
It's over.
Well, we did get the perfect LIBERAL
If we don’t vote for the socialist we must be for Obama??
That is retarded.
Then again, the schills for Romney would have to be.
“Then have the moral courage to actually vote for Obama, and not just let it happen by acquiescence. “
And ANOTHER one throws us an insult.
/johnny
No, I have the moral courage to vote for a person I believe in, not cower in fear of Barry. Nor cower to n\the mechinations of the GOP.
I cannot believe we are at the point where someone on FR can say with a straight face what you Just did.
“Then have the moral courage to actually vote for Obama, and not just let it happen by acquiescence.”
The only people ‘acquiescing’ to anything are the Romney voters. The rest of us are fighting against both.
Sorry pal, I’m still here working for Newt as I have been since he announced.
As I’ve said before, I’ll vote for a ham sandwich to ensure my anti-O vote.
There are freepers here stating that they’ll vote for O to teach the GOP a lesson. And I get reamed. LOL What a world.
There will be two choices. Unless you get to vote in some election I don’t know about... To not vote for one is to grant a vote to the other. It’s pretty simple math.
What idiot said that?
"Vote for a RINO, push a RINO on FR, post insults, accusations, lies and use fear mongering tactics on those who resist going along with RINO tyranny, you are a RINO." - Jim Robinson
Hmm, I think he got it right.
I didn't defend Romney as "not a RINO". On the contrary, on some issues he likely is.
What I'm addressing is the belief that not voting at all is somehow righteous because Obama and Romney are the same. Cheney, Cantor, DeMint, Rubio, Backmann, Nugent, Ryan, etc. are thankfully not of this mindset...they know that Obama is the far greater danger and so will take appropriate action to ensure that he and First Wookie don't get power again to control our lives.
50 million will stay home.... who gets those votes?
You= MORON
No you’re not.
“There will be two choices. Unless you get to vote in some election I don’t know about... To not vote for one is to grant a vote to the other. It’s pretty simple math.”
Have you actually ever voted in an election before?
I am beginning to think you have never seen an actual Presidential Election ballot.
Because this is clearly NOT how it Works.
“There will be two choices. Unless you get to vote in some election I don’t know about... To not vote for one is to grant a vote to the other. It’s pretty simple math.”
It’s no math I ever saw. No logic either. Nor is it an either or proposition. How does my vote for Newt, not Mitt,
lease explain.
Hey! Watch yer language there sonny- this has been a family site until people with foul potty mouths showed up !
Wretch!
I have repeatedly answered your questions.
You go ahead and sleep well. In the meantime, I’ll go back to working for Newt in the morning. The rest of you keyboard conservatives can chat amongst yourselves.
Care to name one issue that Romney hasn’t been a complete liberal on?
You keep repeating that lie. It does not make it true.
Very liberal of you.
I won't support Romney but I don't know that he will not still win. And it doesn't matter. The result is irrelevant when I don't want either choice. The only principle I stand on is that I won't support evil and I have not been reticent to voice that and defend it.
You made that statement, so you must have wanted to convey some meaning to the readers.
Your first sentence says "I won't support Romney but I don't know that he will not still win". That is clearly true -- but do you WANT him to not win? If your argument is "I won't support Romney, but he will still win, therefore I am not helping Obama", then you would be claiming to act on principle because it doesn't matter. If you are saying that you don't care if he wins, then your principle about your personal choice, and not about whether Romney is good or bad for the country (because if you are arguing Romney is bad, then you should care whether he wins or loses).
If your statement is simply to claim that you don't know the future, we agree about that, but it is a non-sequitor, since your "not supporting Romney" either has meaning or doesn't, and if your "not support" isn't meant to effect an outcome, it isn't much of a position.
"The result is irrelevant if I don't support either choice" -- If it is irrelevant to you, then in fact you don't "not support" Romney, you are instead "indifferent" to Romney. OK, you don't personally "support" Romney, but you don't actively oppose him either. I shouldn't be so rude -- maybe that's all you really meant, that you could care less whether Romney wins or loses, that you don't really oppose him, you simply don't support him.
But it seems your statement meant more than simply "I don't care who wins". Still, your "indifference" clearly means you don't care if Obama wins. Which isn't really different from not opposing Obama, just as if you don't care if Romney wins suggests you don't actively oppose him.
Your last sentence -- "The only principle I stand on is that I won't support evil" -- sounds sincere, but seems to lack application. Thus my analogy, to see if you could give a practical application. In WW2, the USA supported evil, in the form of Stalin and Russia, in order to fight what the USA thought was the greater evil, Hitler and Germany and the Holocaust.
If your principle is that you won't support evil, then would you have opposed our alliance with Russia? Or would you support an alliance with one evil in order to halt a greater evil? I would note that someone else already used the Hitler/Stalin analogy, so I'm not introducing it, just seeing how you would apply your "principle" about not supporting evil when there are two evils and supporting one can stop another.
It would be principled to say that you wouldn't have supported Stalin. It would also be principled to say you would support Stalin to stop Hitler. Maybe you have a 3rd way that lets you avoid moral dilemnas.
Or, you could just resort to childish name-calling so nobody understands what you really believe. Although why anybody would do that in a forum designed to espouse their opinions is beyond me.
Please stop trying to turn Free Republican into a Republican cheerleader site.
Free Republic is a conservative site.
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Romney is a liberal.
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Pretty simple math
Just because many of you are willing to abandon your principles doesn’t mean you should ask the rest of us to do it. Let Free Republic be that ONE place on the internet where conservative principles REIGN over schilling for a party or a candidate.
Thank you.
Like I said, vote how you like. Stop trying to accuse us of supporting Obama because we disagree. That just makes you a stupid jerk.
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