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Americans Should Be Aware of What the Government Is Trying to Do to Our Privacy [Vehicle Black Box]
Fox News ^ | April 19, 2012 | Judge Napolitano

Posted on 04/20/2012 4:35:41 PM PDT by QT3.14

A new controversial measure could potentially impact every American who owns a car. Beginning in 2015, all cars will be required to be fitted with a black box data recorder, known officially as “event data recorders” or EDRs. These black box recorders work much like the ones on airplanes, capturing data related to a crash. In some cases, authorities can tap into a car’s EDR to check vehicle speed, airbag deployments, and pedal application a few seconds before and after impact.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: blackbox; edr
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To: the invisib1e hand

Some employers were tracking bathroom time in 1999!

Seriously;tracking via card access readers on the doors.Cameras in all offices,meeting rooms, hallways, foyer,everywhere except the bathroom. Not widely reported since all persons working there agreed to non-disclosure as condition of employment,even vendors!

Irony is hardly the correct word.


21 posted on 04/20/2012 7:12:31 PM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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22 posted on 04/20/2012 7:21:31 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: hoosierham
you speak the truth.

And they do just what the government tells them.

I'm sure the numbercrunchers have been having a field day with all that data.

23 posted on 04/20/2012 7:22:08 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (void where prohibited.)
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To: QT3.14
the last two new cars i bought had one... not sure about this one since it's a Hyundai
24 posted on 04/20/2012 7:26:03 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: QT3.14

Enjoy your new cars.....suckers!


25 posted on 04/20/2012 7:42:31 PM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: Steely Tom
And that electricity will be supplied by a wire, and the current that passes through that wire will also pass through a fuse, right? Or has the government found a way around that little inconvenience as well?

It's pretty simple. As with manufacturer-installed immobilizers, this part will have to be operational before the ECU will run the engine.

Flash memory is so cheap these days, they could record a second-by-second history of your driving for a while. Think, 16 GB USB flash can be found for $13 on Amazon, so probably $10 or less wholesale as a bare chip embedded component, no problem for a black box.

Let's say they want to record a whole two kilobytes of data for each second the car is on. I think location, speedometer reading, lights status, accelerator status, brake status, and dozens of other parameters could be recorded within that. That's 8 million seconds of operation, or driving your car for about two hours a day, every day, for two years. They could even have a revolving ten minute buffer of audio in the car from the hands-free unit, and of video from the soon-to-be-mandatory reverse camera.

26 posted on 04/20/2012 7:44:11 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: QT3.14

Methinks this is the last bastion of travel freedom. I experience such freedom on my mini bike tours (2-3 hrs). Pack up some ice/water/snacks and hit the road. No cell phone, no iPod. Very freeing.

27 posted on 04/20/2012 7:48:07 PM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Way to go Johnny.


28 posted on 04/21/2012 5:34:22 AM PDT by STYRO (Do not accept unconstitutional government as legitimate government.)
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To: hoosierham

I had a boss tracking bathroom time in 1979.


29 posted on 04/21/2012 7:24:30 AM PDT by rstrahan
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To: Steely Tom

First off, I never meant to imply that you did not know what you are talking about. If my post came off that way, my apologies.

Second, it would not be “government geniuses” who would be designing the black box. It would be the bought and paid for engineers from GM and Chrysler who have tons of experience in systems integration. A black box would probably have various redundancies and backups.

Third, think Internet Explorer. There were once legal proceedings to try and get Microsoft to strip out Internet Explorer from the Windows operating system. In response, Microsoft integrated Internet Explorer into the Windows OS in such a way, that stripping out the browser made the OS unusable. The same can be done to the code used in all of the various computers used in a modern car. I.E. The black box may not be an actual physical device, but lines of code.

Can a “black box” be disabled? Absolutely. The question is how much effort and money would be involved to disable the “black box” and still have a functional vehicle. It would seem easier to just fix up an older vehicle. At least in my opinion.

Again, my apologies if my post came off as condescending, that was not my intention. Perhaps thinking through my posts a little more thoroughly is in order.


30 posted on 04/21/2012 10:07:30 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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