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End of the manual transmission?
Fox News ^ | May 02, 2012 | Thomas Bey

Posted on 05/02/2012 1:50:24 PM PDT by Sopater

Go to any given dealership with 100 new cars.

On average, just four of the 2012 models will have manual gearboxes.

The trend of the vanishing third pedal is nothing new, notes The Detroit News.

Even a decade ago, just 8.5 percent of 2002 models were manuals. The paper’s own automotive reporter even confesses she never learned to drive a stick shift until it essentially became a job requirement.

It’s more than a little contradictory to automotive reviews (including many you’ll read here) extolling the pleasure of enthusiastic driving with a true manual gearbox. Likewise, purists gravitate to manuals for tackling their favorite twisting road or occasional track day. It’s the original form of in-car connectivity.

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To: truth_seeker

Pikes peak is not a typical road course.


121 posted on 05/02/2012 7:33:52 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: yarddog

Galaxy was not a slow car.


122 posted on 05/02/2012 7:37:15 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: yarddog

I am curious about the “freewheeling” effect. I think this was just an effect of having a very high(low numercally) gear ratio, but not really a “slipper clutch” type of effect. I would say that most likely if you were in first gear, you would have the engine braking effect even in overdrive.

At least I don’t remember any slipper clutch like action from the old overdrive trannys.


123 posted on 05/02/2012 7:41:09 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: mamelukesabre

My old 1955 had a 4.11 rear end.That is one reason it was so quick off the line. That worked just fine in combination with the overdrive.


124 posted on 05/02/2012 7:55:51 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Sopater

A manual transmission is an excellent theft deterrent these days.


125 posted on 05/02/2012 7:58:37 PM PDT by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: B Knotts

Yes, and it also keeps people from asking to borrow your car...or truck. Usually people ask to borrow pickups more than cars, but if it is a stick, they ask someone else instead.


126 posted on 05/02/2012 8:23:43 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: central_va
Wow! And with a Hurst Four speed shifter too.

I LOVED that tranny, and I loved the car I installed it in; a 1957 Chevy Bel Air Sport Coup.

Now THAT was a nice car. Wish I still had it. I learned a LOT from that car.

Don't forget the 12 bolt rear end either.

127 posted on 05/02/2012 8:47:11 PM PDT by China Clipper ( Animals? Sure I like animals. See? There they are next to the potatoes!)
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To: mamelukesabre

“Pikes peak is not a typical road course.”

The LeMans series has been dominated by Audi quattro turbodiesels for several years.

LeMans, Sebring, Laguna Seca, etc. Road courses.

Since 2000 Audi won all but two times.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_24_Hours_of_Le_Mans_winners

and here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_Le_Mans_Series_champions


128 posted on 05/02/2012 9:53:49 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: truth_seeker

and you think this is because of the 4wd?

I would rebut to you that audi engineering overcomes their 4wd handicap via sheer brain power. No other brand has the brain power to do this.


129 posted on 05/02/2012 10:09:51 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: mamelukesabre

“and you think this is because of the 4wd?

I would rebut to you that audi engineering overcomes their 4wd handicap via sheer brain power. No other brand has the brain power to do this.”

Why would they keep it, if it is a handicap, and they are superior engineers? The only handicap I know of is weight.

BTW the Deutsche Touring Motoring class will start in 2013 licensed with Nascar.

I like racing, but Nascar leaves me bored, round and round, every week. Once in awhile, sure...like Indy 500.

There is nothing like watching cars go through the corkscrew at Laguna Seca and then accelerate past the grandstands.


130 posted on 05/02/2012 10:26:51 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Paladin2
Depends on the gearing for each vehicle. I've always found I get better than EPA mileage on a manual and worse on an auto. YMMV.

I've found I get worse on both. With the auto, I figure they're playing with the numbers. With the stick, I play too much for it to be efficient. ;-)

131 posted on 05/03/2012 6:11:53 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmitt in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: Sopater

At least manuals are not completely gone yet.

My 2010 Mustang Gt had a wonderful 5 speed manual, and my 2011 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 has a 6 speed manual that absolutely rocks.


132 posted on 05/03/2012 6:20:18 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it.)
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To: mamelukesabre; ak267

Numerous cars have paddle shifters now.

Almost all Camaros have paddle shifters, Hyundai Genesis Coupes along with other models have them, Nissan Altima had them, etc etc


133 posted on 05/03/2012 6:22:54 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it.)
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To: goseminoles

http://partywiththis.com/images/P/beercanhat56163.jpg


134 posted on 05/03/2012 6:23:37 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmitt in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: Figment

My Miata now has 277K on the odometer and is on its third clutch, which IIRC went in at around 235K. Clutch #2 lasted close to 140,000 miles.

Yes, changing a clutch is a hassle. On a Miata you have to remove a LOT of stuff to get the transmission out, including the entire exhaust system from the downpipe back, but if you don’t abuse the clutch you don’t have to change it very often.


135 posted on 05/03/2012 7:32:15 AM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (We apologise for the fault in this tagline. Those responsible have been sacked.)
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To: mamelukesabre
All wheel drive is awesome for straight line zero to sixty times. It sucks for handling, braking, and high speed acceleration...as in, say, 75mph to 150mph. So basically, in the real world it is pretty cool. On a race track, not so much.

I'd imagine AWD has at least some benefit on the race track, given that a lot of racing organizations have banned it.

136 posted on 05/03/2012 7:36:19 AM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (We apologise for the fault in this tagline. Those responsible have been sacked.)
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To: truth_seeker

Audi’s LMP cars are rear-drive. You are correct that they are turbodiesels (except for the R8).


137 posted on 05/03/2012 7:38:25 AM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (We apologise for the fault in this tagline. Those responsible have been sacked.)
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To: truth_seeker
What, in a straight line?

You might drive an Audi quattro, and feel differently.


I'm talking about preferences, which include looks and quality of construction. Those old muscle cars were built with solid steel and looked awesome. Here's a '68 to drool over. ;-)


138 posted on 05/03/2012 8:04:13 AM PDT by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: nascarnation
In 1967 some of the deuce & half trucks that were to haul us
back from a drop zone about fifty miles had automatic trans.
These were older trucks supplied by GM, the newer multifuel
trucks had std. trans. About 2 or 3 miles after we were loaded one caught fire, driver hadn't released the parking brake totally. I think they had a version of hydromatic trans
My 1st new car 60 Chevy rag top had a 4 speed with a 2.20 1st
gear.Delivery was delayed over 2 mos. waiting or tranny.
almost like starting in second gear, rear axle gearing something like 3.78. Next rod was 1966 Plymoth Sat. w/426 hemi, it would blow my brothers Stingray w/ factor full race
setup except carb instead of FI

As far as shifting gears nothing competes w/Mack 10speed duplex trans,one arm thru steering wheel for one stick,other
hand on 2nd stick to split gears

139 posted on 05/03/2012 10:10:51 AM PDT by TweetEBird007
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To: Charles Martel

Don’t remember the make but I drove a four on the tree truck in Japan.


140 posted on 05/03/2012 10:49:36 AM PDT by GATOR NAVY
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