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Frank discussion re our loss to Obama/Romney and the future direction of FR and tea party movement
Click here to pledge your support! ^ | May 4, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 05/04/2012 6:31:27 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

My FRiends, we might as well face the reality that we the combined pro-life conservative movement and tea party coalition have lost this round (the presidential election) in the larger battle to reclaim our constitution and our inalienable rights. Rove, Romney and the GOP-e have successfully destroyed and driven off each and every pro-life conservative tea party candidate from the race and all have surrendered to the Romney camp. It is no secret that Romney is not one of us. There is absolutely no doubt that he has never accomplished a single conservative thing in his entire political career (one term as liberal governor of liberal Massachusetts and six years campaigning for president). In Massachusetts, he undeniably championed abortion, gay rights, global warming, gun control, big government statist mandated/socialized health care programs, liberal judges, TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending, debt limit increases, etc, and even though he's recently claimed a complete reversal in political beliefs and no longer despises pro-life conservatives or the time of Reagan-Bush, I still don't trust him. He still stubbornly holds on to some of his statist beliefs, like global warming, gays in the military, RomneyCare, stimulus spending, etc, so there is no way I can vote for him or join Cain, Perry, Bachmann, Newt or any others who are endorsing him. But I will not act on my prior promises that I would actively campaign against him if he wins the nomination. Our combined movement is already torn and splintered and is going to have to be mended if we're going to have any impact whatsoever against the liberal/progressives and statists after the election. To that end I propose a TRUCE among our conservative forces during the remainder of this election cycle.

We conservatives have already lost the presidency to either the Dems or the GOP-e, and if we tear the tea party apart, if we tear the pro-life movement apart, if we tear FR apart then we lose it all. It's far more important that we re-unite and live to fight another day. Even if we can't vote for a true conservative for the presidency, it's doubly important that we all turn out on election day or sooner and drag our friends, neighbors, relatives, co-workers, etc, to the polls to vote straight conservative for every slot on our ballots. The only way we can win our freedom back is to vote out the liberal progressives and vote in as many liberty loving conservatives as is humanly possible into every elected office at every level of government all across this great land. To prevent a total loss to the dems or GOP-e, we must continue the tea party rebellion into November and beyond. Whatever else you may do, you must turn out and vote straight tea party conservative down ticket!!

We must continue expanding our inroads into the state houses and into every elective office in the land. We must continue building on our majority in the house and we must retake the senate!! We must help the conservative governors and state legislatures to fully restore the ninth and tenth amendments and reclaim the real political power away from the federal usurpers and return it to the states and the people per the constitution!! This way, regardless of who wins the presidency, we can cut his unconstitutional expansionist movements off at the knees. And if any executive, civil officer or judge dares commit impeachable offenses, we must hold the majorities so we can impeach and remove them from office!!

And we must salvage and rebuild and continue strengthening our conservative pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun, pro-borders, pro-constitution, pro-small government, pro-defense, pro-liberty movements and our tea party coalition. And we must stop ripping each other apart!!

Therefore I hereby propose a general truce among our conservative forces!!

The Republic we save may be our own!!

As far as FR's finances go, we're in the same boat as the rest of the economy and will have to make do with what we can raise. Fortunately, the big debts we ran up a couple years ago have been paid off. We borrowed approx $20,000 a few years ago from two FReepers to fund our national convention, plus we ran up another $20,000 in legal fees during the last couple of years fighting off Righthaven. But those are now behind us and paid off. We also did quite a bit of traveling each year for the last three years on cross country tea party tours, but I think we can now cut that back and remove it from our budget requirements. If we're fortunate enough to not incur any additional legal costs or equipment costs (other than what we've already planned), and cut the travel and a few other areas, we should be able to tighten our belts enough to weather the storm even if we fail to reach our short term fundraising goals.

Whatever the outcome of the elections, we are prepared to roar into 2013 with the tea party chewing up liberal/progressives and RINOs and raising hell in our never ending fight for liberty!!

We are the resistance!!

Let's take the enemy head-on instead of fighting each other!!

Damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead!!

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To: LTC.Ret


781 posted on 05/04/2012 2:08:23 PM PDT by reaganaut (VAB! Voting against both Romney and Obama. Constitution party, here I come!)
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To: Tennessee Nana

How he slip in there??

You can SEE I was on 776!

782 posted on 05/04/2012 2:08:39 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Beagle8U; reaganaut; Bikkuri; jimrob; All
“I am still going to write in Palin (if the convention doesn’t go through).”

In some states you have to be careful about ‘write in’ voting.

I was told by a poll worker ( the one handing out ballots ) that if you ‘wrote-in’ anyone that didn't register in advance as a ‘write-in candidate, it was a spoiled ballot and wouldn't be counted.

You'd be wise to check beforehand; I can state that the ballot won't be voided in Maine: "If a voter writes in a write-in space the name of a person who has not filed a declaration of write-in candidacy as provided by section 722-A , the vote for that office may not be counted except in accordance with section 737-A, subsection 2-A." -

783 posted on 05/04/2012 2:09:16 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Newt doesn't have to win. He has to keep Romney from locking up enough undisputed delegates to secure the nomination. And then it goes to the floor. And from there, anything can happen.

I would love nothing more than for that to happen. Even though it would probably damage the nominee's chances and lead to a Goldwater scale debacle it would be the greatest show on Earth.

But I wouldn't bet on it.

784 posted on 05/04/2012 2:14:00 PM PDT by MaxFlint
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To: CPT Clay

Go forth, my child, and sin no more.

785 posted on 05/04/2012 2:14:06 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: Uncle Miltie

To me, the Presidential Race comes down to the relative light reflectivity of your jailer / executioner.

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Perfect choice of words.

786 posted on 05/04/2012 2:14:22 PM PDT by reaganaut (VAB! Voting against both Romney and Obama. Constitution party, here I come!)
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To: mojitojoe
Sure they have anchovies, but barely anyone chooses them and they will never be a winner with the public.

I know I said I order extra large pizzas in case someone shows up late for dinner but I didn't mean I was inviting the public. Furthermore if guests don't like what I order that's too bad.

787 posted on 05/04/2012 2:16:36 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Bigun

The primary is my one and only chance to send him a REAL message!

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You aren’t sending him ANY message. He doesn’t care how many votes he gets in the Primary, he knows weaklings will vote for him in the general under the misguided notion that he is better than Obama.

788 posted on 05/04/2012 2:16:46 PM PDT by reaganaut (VAB! Voting against both Romney and Obama. Constitution party, here I come!)
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To: MSSC6644
I'm asking why Romney and not Paul. No one has given me a solid answer in response to that question.

Because Ron Paul is a freakin' kook-wad and Romney at least pretends to be a sane human being.

Granted, Romney is a gun-grabbing socialist douchebag but he doesn't have aliens and troofers among his supporters.

It's a matter of degree.

And Ron Paul is many degrees out-of-level.

789 posted on 05/04/2012 2:16:54 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: MSSC6644
I'm not in Romney's court but opposing both he and Obama so I cannot help you understand people's who would secure Romney over PAul....they did the same thing with Newt when he was still running.....basically their vote was a vote against Newt...and Paul.

Many swallowed the Santorum bait...and it worked. But as projected until he hit the wall in PA....but then he knew he would and so did the GOP.

Paul just isn't in this to win...and his desires are to be heard ...and speaking his mind.

If it were to go to converntion Paul will release his delegates to Romney....he's there to protect him.

790 posted on 05/04/2012 2:17:04 PM PDT by caww
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To: reaganaut
Other races do not depend upon who I vote for for POTUS.

There seems to be a lot of confusion on this.

I check (on the web) numerous county clerks offices from many states.

It appears that the only thing you need to be concerned about is if you mark a straight party ticket and then write in the name. Once, you write in a name, the straight party ticket becomes invalid. So, just mark every selection individually and there should be no problem.

791 posted on 05/04/2012 2:17:29 PM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: xzins

Well said.

792 posted on 05/04/2012 2:19:21 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (The epitome of stupidity is a member of a proven racist sect running against a black man.)
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To: MaxFlint
I'm not going to bet on anything. I'm going to keep working to refuse the nomination to Romney. Since he doesn't have the undisputed delegates for a locked-in nomination, it is in the realm of the possible.


793 posted on 05/04/2012 2:20:25 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: caww

Very well said.

794 posted on 05/04/2012 2:21:56 PM PDT by reaganaut (VAB! Voting against both Romney and Obama. Constitution party, here I come!)
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To: reaganaut

Bottom line is, when you go into the voting booth in November you have 2 choices. Cast a vote for the GOP nominee or for Obama. There is no other outcome possible. A vote for anyone other than the GOP nominee is a vote for Obama. Decide who you intend to help elect, and decide wisely.

795 posted on 05/04/2012 2:23:12 PM PDT by Concho (-)
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To: Finny

Yep so much for the ‘truce’, eh?

796 posted on 05/04/2012 2:25:25 PM PDT by reaganaut (VAB! Voting against both Romney and Obama. Constitution party, here I come!)
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To: Magic Fingers

Good points.

797 posted on 05/04/2012 2:25:38 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: MaxFlint
If Obama wins odds are he serves another four full years.

Sure, but if Romney wins, we are guaranteed to have a left winger in the White House for at least 8 more years.

798 posted on 05/04/2012 2:26:03 PM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: onyx; humblegunner

I’m voting for an actual candidate, just not Obama OR Romney.

Virgil Goode will be on our ballot.

799 posted on 05/04/2012 2:26:56 PM PDT by reaganaut (VAB! Voting against both Romney and Obama. Constitution party, here I come!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Amen! Thank you very much, Cringing Negativism Network!!

800 posted on 05/04/2012 2:27:38 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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