Skip to comments.9/11 defendants ignore judge at Guantanamo hearing
Posted on 05/05/2012 8:01:58 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows
GUANTANAMO BAY NAVAL BASE, Cuba (AP) They knelt in prayer, ignored the judge and wouldn't listen to Arabic translations as they confronted nearly 3,000 counts of murder. The self-proclaimed mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks and four co-defendants defiantly disrupted an arraignment that dragged into Saturday night in the opening act of the long-stalled effort to prosecute them in a military court.
It wasn't until more than seven hours into the hearing that prosecutors at the U.S. military base in Cuba began reading the charges against the men, including 2,976 counts of murder and terrorism in the 2001 attacks that sent hijacked jetliners into New York's World Trade Center and the Pentagon.
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the admitted 9/11 architect, and the four men accused of aiding the 9/11 conspiracy put off their pleas until a later date. Lawyers were still discussing trial dates Saturday night; another hearing was set for June 12.
Earlier, Mohammed cast off his earphones providing Arabic translations of the proceeding and refused to answer Army Col. James Pohl's questions or acknowledge he understood them. All five men refused to participate in the hearing; two passed around a copy of The Economist magazine and leafed through the articles.
Walid bin Attash was confined to a restraint chair when he came into court, released only after he promised to behave
Cheryl Bormann, a civilian attorney for bin Attash, appeared in a conservative Islamic outfit that left only her face uncovered and she asked the court to order other women present to wear "appropriate" clothing so that defendants do not have to avert their eyes "for fear of committing a sin under their faith."
(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...
Sounds like the defense attorney is being indoctrinated.
Sounds to me like she’s trying to turn the trial into a circus with herself as the ringmaster. I don’t know if she’s a Muslim or if she has any radical affiliations.
Brought to you by the same folks who can't abide having the 10 Commandments displayed within a five mile radius of a courthouse....
All cultures are equal...but some cultures are more equal than others.
Can a judge carry on a trial, if the dependent is uncooperative? If thé défendent refuses to answer questions and find them guilty or innocent, based on the evidence?
If so, put them in a sound-proof box, with the trial playing through speakers and carry on. Let them sit in the box incapable of interrupting the trial.
How about we put a bullet in their thick skulls and be done with it.....
Only a handful of people would actually care and ....well just screw them...
The learned counsel, death penalty defense experience, defense attorneys, from left: David Nevin for Khalid Sheik Mohammed; Cheryl Borman for Walid bin Attash; James Harrington for Ramzi bin al Shibh; James G. Connell III for Ammar al Baluchi, also called Ali Abd al Aziz Ali; Cmdr. Walter Ruiz for Mustafa al Hawsawi. Also assigned are Marine Corps Maj. Derek Poteet and Army Capt. Jason D. Wright for Mohammed; Marine Corps Maj. William T. Hennessey and Air Force Capt. Michael Schwartz for Bin Attash; Navy Lt. Cmdr. Kevin Bogucki for Bin al Shibh and Air Force Lt. Col. Sterling Thomas for Baluchi.
Waleed bin Attash aka Tawfiq Attash aka Khallad...
He is Yemeni
Should’ve used the Israeli method: A Hellfire Howdy.
Sounds like Chicago 7 and Bill Ayers tactics- which worked.
Borman is the one who wore the hijab and insisted the other women should do the same.
OK, probably not. I’m still going with the circus hypothesis, though.
You need to start a new Thread titled “If FReepers Ran the World”.
Make it more interesting, put a Pig in the box with them.
“Can a judge carry on a trial, if the dependent is uncooperative?”
If lack of cooperation was a legitimate method to derail one’s trial, every defendant would deploy that ruse.
A bullet is too good for them. Hang them as common criminals and feed them to pigs. These guys are no better than the nazis we hanged. Why in the world is this taking forever and they’ll probably (at best) be given a nice needle way out.
So sick of this nonsense.
Agreed, you’re dead on the money with the circus hypothesis.
That is disgusting! What do you have against pigs?
Think it is total BS that a US citizen should give ANY consideration to these devils. What about the sin of killing 3000 people?
And who don't see anything wrong with forcing Catholic doctors and nurses to kill babies.
All it will take is a tiny misstep in FISA wiretaps or similar evidence mistakes and they walk.
The comparison that pops to mind is the first O. J. trial. I hope this judge has a bigger set of stones than Lance Ito.
Whatever happened to a quick contempt of court ruling? If they refuse to participate in their trial, they have waived their right to self-defense.
Our providing a stage for their circus only enhances their influence where we need it the least.
I’d like to see a pic of the lawyerette in her dhimmi garb.
How about using Wild Boars with big sharp Tusks?
One man's Boar is another man's Pig.
And Cheryl Bormann is concerned about them sinning by looking at the prosecuting attorneys in military uniforms. Incredible that she wants them to cover their head for these murderers.
“Only a handful of people would actually care...”
A fundamental problem with our society today, is that we’ve allowed, in the short space of about 50 years, a relative handful of people to destroy our cherished institutions, basic morality, and foundational ability to render judgments.
A list of examples would take all night, and still be imcomplete.
That said, it looks like this will be a long trial and a frustrating one with these attorneys not only representing these terrorists but their religion.
One invasive species versus another...yeah, that'll work.
[ Strongly suggest reading the whole article. This is a travesty. ]
Surely you meant Carnival.. thats OK I knew what your meant..
At Carnival, when people get ****ed they enjoy it.
I can understand the defense attorneys defending their clients - that’s their ethical duty. But what’s going on here is the difference between defending an accused Nazi and defending Nazism.
Call me stupid, but it seems to me that if the scum defendants are provided earphone translators, but refuse to use them, they continue to be represented by their lawyers who understand English; thus they are properly represented by a person who understands the charges and the testimonies.
Proceed with the trial, and if necessary take out the trash that is interfering, as they are fully represented by English speaking lawyers. If they decide to quietly stay, or watch proceedings on a remote TV, fine!
(Somehow, I feel that the name Erik Holder will surface in the news within a few days.)
I’d put ‘em in isolation booths with translation feeds. If nothing else, it might help with the smell.
Well said, that’s exactly what they’re doing.
I can understand the defense attorneys defending their clients -
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Years ago some one took a potshot of some Mid Eastern leader and the guards got him almost immediately.
Somehow or other, we got involved and an announcement was made
(to the effect)
“Ali Ben Ali, accused attempted assassin of the Premier, will be given a fair trial on 55SEP55 at 0900.”
All villagers and townspeople will assemble in the Town Square at 1100 for the 1200 Execution by hanging”.
THAT is the kind of justice these animals (in Gitmo etc) understand.
This judge did a great job in putting a disruptive defendent in his place.
Biggest mistake they made back when Mohammed made that statement about pleading guilty was not saying, “okay, sign here”.
What in the wide, wide world of sports.............????
THese f*ing monsters have already confessed.
Convict them, then take them to 40,000 feet without parachutes and shove ‘em out. If they survive the fall they can go free.
Seems fair to me.
So they want to be petty and show their contempt for us? Okay.
Let me get my Koran out.
Give 'em the same trial the gutsy Obama bin Laden gave his cuz Osama bin Laden.
We aren't spending a decade in Iraq and Afghanistan bleeding noble lives and fortune we don't have in order to retrograde to the seventh century Manson cult.
Put Hello Kitty Hijab in the pokey for contempt.
Bring the rest to an Iowa hog confinement.
The hogs don't need translators.
Further this deponent sayeth not.
It’s in the catbox.
This trial has begun on an ominous note. Already the details of the opening day are horrific. The judge better get in control immediately. The defense attorneys have wasted no time pecking away at his authority.