Skip to comments.Conservatives and Gays: Where Do We Stand? (We can oppose same-sex marriage without being anti-gay)
Posted on 05/09/2012 4:30:36 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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That is why we are losing America. You enable liberal causes
If you want a lovely chapel ceremony, a lavish reception and a honeymoon cruise, go ahead: that's what vendors (including -- ahem -- certain religious vendors) are all about.
If you want to co-sign on car loan or a bail bond, or a 30-year mortgage --- if you want somebody else to be your health care proxy, your financial proxy, or the sole heir of your estate --- more power to you: that's what contract law is all about.
None of this requires government approval -- a marriage license --- because there is no state interest (no civil, secular, public interest) in what you and your Extra Special Other have decided to do with yourselves for the nonce, for the weekend, or even for the rest of your lives. Two People In Love --- two adults pursuing their own fulfillment --- can do that on their own. Go ahead. No matrimonial certification required.
A public interest --- and hence, civil marriage --- arises only in the context of the one-and-only kind of sexual relation that can beget offspring: new human beings who are NOT adults, and whose identity, kinship and provenance are (usually, used to be "normatively") defined and sorted out by their origin in their parents' union.
That constitutes the core public interest in civil marriage.
As for all the rest?
It's a free country.
"We don't need a piece of paper from the City Hall."
Follow your bliss.
And leave me out of it.
“I have sympathy for those with homosexual attractions that they can’t control. We need to have compassion on such poor souls.”
Do you also “have sympathy for those with heterosexual attractions that they can’t control”?
Last time I checked, we call those folks “sexual harassers” if they have a little restraint, and “rapists” if they have none.
If you want to throw in the old “consenting adults” caveat, then you have fornicators and/or adulterers. Not real popular terms these days, but accurate, nonetheless.
Do you remember what “Imprinting” is from your biology and behavioral psychology school days. If not do some research.
I think God has designed children to be imprinted for good but unfortunately God's design has been perverted...........
> We can oppose same-sex marriage without being anti-gay.
We could, but then that would be implied approval.
I oppose homosexual everything.
I agree. Also, I’m sick of conservatives running scared, and hastening to “clarify” their beliefs when leftists start to screech and yelp. This defensiveness must stop.
The question why did Jesus come, has a lot of answers, It is Gods word that will judge us and we can and should use Gods word to inform others. In fact, if we do not speak the truth to them, we don't love them. It will be Jesus who saves us IF if chose that, but it will be Gods word that judges us, we DO NOT escape judgemt.:
“I came to testify to the truth”
“I came not to bring peace to the world but to divide..............” Homosexullity is a behavior. You and I discriminate on behavior all the time because they reflect character. Are you going to hire someone who embezzled from their former employer. Are you going to hire some one who cheats on his wife, are you going to hire someone who does drugs? I judge people all the time and then hold myself to the same standard. Evidence of repentance and change are always part of the process. Again homosexualitly is a behavior, behaviours are complex because God made us complex. Do some research on "imprinting" which I think is part of Gods design for us but has been perverted. Now think about what is imprinted on the kids these days.
In Washington State, “civil unions” came first, then “gay” marriage happened very quickly afterward. Don’t believe it, when they say it won’t.
Truly, hate the sin, love the sinner.
Civ Union bill died on the floor of the CO House last night!!
Gotta get the number of the bill passed in 2009, which affords all of the legal protections possible for ANY 2 people, without cheerleading the “gay” agenda.
There’s no need for more laws, as they only serve to “normalize” and promote.
Dennis Prager lost my respect with this piece of crap. He’s become another moderate, trying to straddle the fence and appear to be on both sides of the issue.
I have sympathy for those with homosexual attractions that they cant control. We need to have compassion on such poor souls.
And I have sympathy for those with attraction to my property and income that they can’t control. But just because someone has an appetite does mean they should give in to it, or that it is moral or godly. The ‘feels good’ metric is a fraudulent one, yet that is the one we are being forced to accept with respect to same-sex “marriage” or sexual immorality in general. And by immorality, I also include all the Freepers who may nod in approval of this thread, that is up until the point where I observe how many call themselves “Christian”, that is a follower of Jesus Christ, and yet are living with a member of the opposite sex without being married to them.
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