Skip to comments.Why Jews Hate Guns
Posted on 05/09/2012 10:32:55 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright
Its no secret that one of the largest blocs of people pressing for so-called gun control is the culturally (aka not-so-religious) American Jewish community. This confounds many observers who would expect that Jews, with such a stunning history of oppression and murder by humanitys villains, would cling tenaciously to personal firearms and the ability to protect themselves as the Hebrew Scriptures instruct.
In reaction to the Holocaust, American Jews adopted the phrase Never Again! If actions mean anything, they dont believe it. Thats for someone else to do. How do Jews expect to put teeth behind the words Never Again! if not with the ability to apply and project personal force when righteous -- and necessary -- for survival?
Why then do so many American Jews hate guns and fear gun ownership so much?
Our research identifies ten reasons why these Jews feel the way they do about self defense in general, firearms specifically and your own right to keep and bear arms.
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A new word for me -
shomrim - The watchful. The unobserved guardian.
“To them, all Republicans were Barry Goldwater types who wouldnt let them into their country clubs.”
Barry Goldwater? What kind of name is Goldwater?
Barry Morris Goldwater was born in Phoenix on New Year’s Day, 1909, three years before Arizona was admitted to the Union. He was the eldest son of Baron and Josephine Williams Goldwater, and the grandson of “Big Mike” Goldwasser, a Jewish immigrant from an area of Poland that was then ruled by the Russian czars. Although Jewish on his father’s side, Mr. Goldwater was raised in the Episcopalian tradition of his mother.
“Big Mike” Goldwasser left Poland at the age of 14 and went first to London, then to California and, in 1859, to Arizona where with his brother, Joe, operated a trading and mercantile operation in Prescott. In 1896, Baron Goldwater — the surname had long since been Anglicized — opened a branch of the family business, M. Goldwater & Sons, in Phoenix. The Goldwater stores would remain in family hands until 1962
Unless someone has a Jewish mother, they aren't Jewish. Children usually inherit their brain DNA from their mother, their ambition from their father. It isn't a 50/50 combination. The DNA machinery selects only DNA from the mother for some things, only DNA from the father for others. Nature uses females as the genetic baseline for brains, and expendable males for experiments. Consider Barky's source of brains and his source of ambition.
There is an element of truth in that.
I was raised Catholic, and there was still a lot of resentment of Catholics when Kennedy got elected. A Protestant neighbor asked me one time if my parents had to vote for Kennedy because we were Catholic. I was only ten at the time, and I told her I didn't think so. Attitudes sure have changed (mostly) for the better since then. The people who were accused of being racist and bigoted then (conservatives) are now less bigoted and racist than today's liberals. What a turnaround.
“The Jews have forgotten that they themselves are the most at risk underdogs.”
Now as much or more than ever.
The list in the articled is by no means a strictly Jewish phenomenon.
Roth was a prime example of mid century Jewish thought. But they are dying off.
Roth was a prime example of mid century Jewish thought. But they are dying off.
“< snip > It was just a well developed habit pattern borne of utter ignorance of historical fact. It was all based on this weird mishmosh of lore. Tribal lore, is all I can call it. That evangelical Christians might try to convert people was a worse thing than Arabs trying to slaughter people, to slit their throats. Amazing. Someone talking to you, sure, with an agenda, maybe an agenda you reject yet can walk away from or ignore, thats more threatening than someone with a gun up your nose ready to blow your brains out.”
I think you hit on part of it here.
For generations following the Diaspora, Jews settled in a given region at the behest of the local king or prince, who usually welcomed them for their commercial skill and intellectual ability, but would expel them in a heartbeat if they became more problematic or “inconvenient” than they were worth.
They were under the “protection” of the local ruler, yet there would still be pogroms once in a while. Sometimes they erupted outside of the local lord’s control, other times with his tacit approval...either to allow the locals to vent steam and direct their frustration away from its real cause (their rulers), or to quietly remind the Jews who was in charge. Being a tiny percent of the population, they stood no chance of successfully standing up against their distrusting/resentful neighbors...and, I’m sure, over generations many of those who were genetically inclined to fight and resist were eliminated.
Centuries of living like this, in my opinion, served to breed a sense of servility and helplessness into European Jewish culture.
Consider the old story of why the circus elephant can’t pull the stake holding its chains out of the ground...everything in its whole life, from infancy, told it that it couldn’t be done, indeed it was dangerous to try.
Likewise, generations of living as a minority, dependent on the goodwill of the local king and knowing that your neighbors would wipe you and your family out given the chance, bred a sense of “obey and depend on your earthly rulers, don’t even THINK of standing up to threats on your own” into European Jewish culture, and has passed it down to today’s generations.
“I am Jewish and you are going to be shocked at how many Jews are going to vote against Obama. It will be historical.”
Approximately 77% for FOR Obama. I am not impressed with their voting habits.
George Peppard in Tobruk was more like it. A Jewish commando kicking Nazi a$$. FU Modern Hollywood.
I prefer the Bear Jew
I forgot about him. An anti-Nazi golem of a sort.
“Never Again” should imply “... from my cold, dead hands”. Liberty is still too fragile.
I think you’ve accurately described the historical conditioning. The elephant image is quite apt.
And yet...here are Jews in the one place where they and others, and others allegedly far less gifted in terms of depth of culture and regard for artistic and creative and entrepreneurial talent and the potential for all that stuff could finally be planted into fertile ground and at least have a good chance for germination, growth, and ultimate success. Yet there is still little or no appreciation for the absolutely unique-in-human-history circumstance of America.
I consider it a shortcoming of tragic proportions that the uniqueness of America is ignored or dissed. Not just by Jews, but especially by Jews. If Jews are so damn smart, how come they don’t get this? The obvious answer, as you’ve laid out, is that they believe the mishmosh of the chanted lore more than they believe their own eyes and senses. Here, where Jews arguably have more religious freedom than in any other place that comes to mind, including Israel, to practice their faith to any degree they may choose; Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, somehow the lesson, the opportunity, the freedom isn’t appreciated. It’s dumb, to put it in crass terms.
>>American Christian Liberals
>As a Christian myself....can there even BE such a thing? Seriously...
I suppose that depends on the question of what definition of ‘liberal’ you are using.
Though the contemporary-political definition is mutually exclusive to Christianity on the philosophical level: one says that man is basically good, and utopia can be had, IF ONLY WE COULD GET THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN CHARGE... and the other says that mankind is in desperate need of a hero to save them from their enslavement to evil.
G_d knows what some people call socialism nowadays, but a lot of the Jews who fought back were socialists.
Generalizing is difficult, but wasn't it the obedient, law-abiding middle classes who expected justice from governments who were more passive?
But of course, for some people here today, everything European is socialist.
That was also a good reminder of local elections, it is the same with blacks, a seemingly small shift of support to the republicans can mean a lot in local elections, and control of cities. Every little bit helps.
Jews arrived here as liberal, and remained so, they always have and do serve as the cadre and leadership, intellectuals and funders for the left, they were not shaped by America, instead, they have refused to allow America to pull them into our natural Protestant conservatism.
We are hoping that they will change, not that they will revert to something.
What you say mey be true,
I remember being shocked reading Richard Rhode's "Dark Sun" and the telling of the espionage efforts stealing US nuclear secrets and selling them to the Soviets. The spy networks were almost 100% Jewish. Rhodes never attempted to explain this treachery, just recounted it.