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Ultra-Orthodox Shun Their Own for Reporting Child Sexual Abuse
The New York Times ^ | May 9, 2012 | Sharon Otterman and Ray Rivera

Posted on 05/10/2012 10:32:33 AM PDT by olcurmudgeon

The first shock came when Mordechai Jungreis learned that his mentally disabled teenage son was being molested in a Jewish ritual bathhouse in Brooklyn. The second came after Mr. Jungreis complained, and the man accused of the abuse was arrested.

Old friends started walking stonily past him and his family on the streets of Williamsburg. Their landlord kicked them out of their apartment. Anonymous messages filled their answering machine, cursing Mr. Jungreis for turning in a fellow Jew. And, he said, the mother of a child in a wheelchair confronted Mr. Jungreis’s mother-in-law, saying the same man had molested her son, and she “did not report this crime, so why did your son-in-law have to?”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: childabuse; israel; jewish; ultraorthodox

1 posted on 05/10/2012 10:32:37 AM PDT by olcurmudgeon
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2 posted on 05/10/2012 10:36:37 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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Exactly the same attitude as among the Catholic clergy when this all started coming out. Far more important to protect the institution or community than to protect children.

Very sad. I understand the concern about false accusations ruining someone’s life. That is a real issue. The answer is not to enforce silence, it’s to develop better ways of separating false from true accusations.


3 posted on 05/10/2012 10:54:24 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

The thick body of ritual law that these people take to govern their lives might be ill equipped for this new challenge. So they fall back on plain old fallen, sinful human soddenness.

Which again goes to show, the law cannot save.


4 posted on 05/10/2012 10:57:36 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: olcurmudgeon

Why turn him in? Just KILL him!


5 posted on 05/10/2012 11:05:42 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Uncle Slayton

Snitches get Knishes.


6 posted on 05/10/2012 11:07:49 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: olcurmudgeon

I’ve long decided that if my kids were victim to child molesting scumbags that I’d take the law into my own hands and handle things myself. No trial. No reliving the events on trial and questioning. No media. Just the 3’s treatment.


7 posted on 05/10/2012 11:17:17 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (The Republican Party is bigger than the presidency.)
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To: Darren McCarty
Just the 3’s treatment.

What's that?

8 posted on 05/10/2012 11:39:57 AM PDT by Ancesthntr (Bibi to Odumbo: Its not going to happen.)
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I would guess the universal SSS.

Shoot
Shovel
Shut up

But, other letters work, depending on your level of evidence and action.

9 posted on 05/10/2012 11:44:26 AM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: Ancesthntr

Shoot. Shovel. Shut up. Never forget the last part either.


10 posted on 05/10/2012 11:53:54 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (The Republican Party is bigger than the presidency.)
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To: Theoria

We have a fourth S. Strip mines. Abandoned, of course. Takes away the heavy labor and heart attack producing S hoveling.


11 posted on 05/10/2012 11:58:12 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: olcurmudgeon
Reading the article, the issue seems to be that the rabbis want to handle all such in rabbinical courts. The problem appears to be that the molesters have more influence in those courts than the victims.

It's interesting that the cases are predominantly homosexual molestation of young boys.

12 posted on 05/10/2012 12:18:09 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: olcurmudgeon; GeronL

Okay this is just great! Someone abuses your kid and the community bands around and supports the abuser?

What is wrong with these people? Shunning is not the answer unless they had their own Jewish jails to shun them in.

Better yet just stone the perverts at the edge of the village like in old days.


13 posted on 05/10/2012 12:21:03 PM PDT by Morgana (I only come here to see what happens next. It normally does.)
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To: Morgana

BUMP/

Child predators do not deserve to ever again step foot in civilized society


14 posted on 05/10/2012 1:52:40 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Morgana

Insulated communities that feel besieged cover up sin. And their insulated nature begs corruption. It’s a shame.


15 posted on 05/11/2012 10:08:05 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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