Posted on 05/12/2012 2:48:24 PM PDT by blam
I do have to chuckle though when the stupid show up to set me straight.
I'm off for a card game with friends now. Later.
I am most concerned about November when Obama gets voted out. I am predicting mass riots, and all out war on white people. I have been stocking up on ammo, and sharpening my firearms skills.
Someone mentioned TP in an earlier post, "Why TP?" Why not? If I am going to be holed up in the house for extended time, my girls are going to want TP. It is a luxury item, that will not spoil.
“I’ve never done any food prepping, so could someone tell me if this is a decent product at a decent price? Thanks.”
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$3200 for 9 months might be OK, but most likely ONLY in a very limited situation, like being stranded on a mountain
or island.
In case of civil disruption, however, it would be unlikely that you would get to use it, unless you have a private army to protect you.
I’ve run an AC for two weeks on a generator, but if it’s a real SHTF just get used to the heat. AC is not a necessity.
Or after the stock market crash of 2008. I survived on stored food for quite a while after that.
/johnny
Yes, existing communities in ghettos will definitely step up and mobilize to make sure THEIR needs are met - at your expense. How do you think those gangbangers are going to act? They will see the SHTF situation as a blank check for unlimited burglary and murder. Humans have the instinct of domination and aggression, not of cooperation (that would be ants.)
The police will disappear almost instantly. Police officers have their own families to protect - and they understand that after TSHTF their own life in the street will be very short. Police does not have overwhelming numbers. Police wins against criminals today only because police can quickly summon tens of officers to a single crime scene. If there are 100 crimes committed at the same time in the same town the police will be unable to respond to all crime scenes. But if you encounter a group of LEOs after TSHTF they will be more dangerous than a street gang.
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“Someone mentioned TP in an earlier post, “Why TP?” Why not?”
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Here in the Philippines, toilet paper is not widely used, except by expats and tourist.
The Filipinos use water, and if you think about it, it can be much cleaner.
Regarding water purification, I think the most important (and cheapest) thing you can do is to acquire and store a few pounds of calcium hypochlorite. Along with storing it properly and saving hardcopy instructions for using it to make bleach, and using that bleach to purify water.
The "Big Berkey" water filters have the best reputation, however you should still test them by filtering some water that is dyed with food coloring. I also think the Ceragrav filters are a very good, lower cost alternative. Finally, the Katadyne filters have some excellent characteristics.
If you do the math, however, the Berkey filters process the most water for the lowest number of dollars.
These guys ( http://www.zenwateronline.com/water-filtration.php ) also look promising for a more limited budget.
Did you not read the original post? The whole middle section listing the horrors those people, the "NPs", will suffer because of their trifling ways when the SHTF is like something out of Dante. It positively revels in their suffering.
The ancient Romans used sponges where we use TP. However, TP is always high on all the preparedness lists I've seen.
Even today, I drain canned veggies into a large freezer container to use later in soups. I’ve already paid for it so why throw it out? Waste not, want not.
But it's historically correct.
You have projection issues, and are imparting motives not available from the text.
/johnny
In my business, telecom, VPN, MPLS, etc, my clients and discuss “disaster Planning”.
We change that mindset by working through a series of excercises and they come out with a new perspective.
That is “Disaster Planning” generally mean just in case something might happen.
We change that to “Contingency Plans” and thing actually do happen. Best plans fail in your plan A and since your plan B is rarely used it needs to be scheduled so you can see what the process of operating in that environment looks like and what is the chaos that ensues and then, how to revert back to regular operations when possible.
So with that in mind, I have contingency plans in place and test every piece of equipment and food stores.
One test I performed last year was to take condensed milk and dilute it with water to get regular milk.
It worked and now condensed milk is part of our preparing what will be an eventuality.
I shudder to think what would happen if I didn’t have so much of everything.
two weeks a fellow gashed his finger about an inch long. It was bleeding profusely. No problem. I asked if wanted to burn with Styptic or wash out a gel.
He know styptic would work but it would burn like a **(&^. He opted for Celox and voila, the bleeding stopped.
Pretty cool and he rinsed it out a few days later.
True, but why be uncomfortable, life will already be uncomfortable enough. It is a simple thing that might keep morals up a bit. Honestly I couldn’t care less, but I have four girls in the house I have to keep them happy. :)
What's mind boggling is you'd think third world people would already know how to clean water, farm and preserve foods. That's basic survival skills known by mankind for eons. They should be the ones teaching those of us who have forgotten these skills. Never could understand why we've been teaching all this to them for generation after generation and they still don't get it.
I grew up without ac but houses were built for it back then. We got our first AC, a window unit when I about 11. Within 2 years we had central heat/AC.
The problem with my current house is it was built in the age of air conditioning. The windows are double paned and difficult to open. When you do open them, there is just a small area open. It also has a fairly low ceiling.
Our old frame house had shade trees, (live oaks) all around the house and I could open a couple of windows in the Summer and the breeze would often get just a little cool by morning.
I live in the Florida Panhandle and Winter is no problem. It gets cold but I can always sleep under blankets.
Think solar generator.
They won’t overrun this neighborhood. They didn’t prep, we did and we gotz lotz of ammo.
So if they want to come and victimize us it’d be a pretty stoopit thing to do.
I have three cops within one block of me who are marksmen and three additional cops within 1/4 mile who part of the same community.
Now you couple ability, superior tactics and well fed against a desperate few, well they ain’t gonna fare so well and we’ll em to pick up their dead buddies before they leave or we’ll shoot them too.
We could set type, but couldn't keep our drinking water clean.
/johnny
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