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Fish or Foul on the Klamath River
AFPCalifornia ^
| 4/23/2012
| Americans for Prosperity
Posted on 05/15/2012 8:41:46 AM PDT by Baynative
The Department of Interior plans to destroy four dams on the Klamath River in Northern California so salmon can swim further than 180 miles up the river. But these dams provide water and flood protection to thousands of humans who also live along the river. Clean energy from these hydro dams supply electricity to 70,000 residents in the area. Despite a lack of scientific evidence that dam removal will help the fish, or any study on the human impact of dam removal, the DOI is pressing forward to have the dams destroyed. When their own scientist, Dr. Paul Houser, questions the science - he gets fired.
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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: agenda21; energy; hydro; klamath; unagenda21
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To: Baynative
Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't most of these kind of dams in the Northwest built with accompanying “fish ladders” for the very purpose of preserving the salmon's ability to swim upstream past the dam???? If not, then we sure were lied to back when I was young. With movie footage to boot!
Or is it just offensive to the green-nazis that the fish have to swim up a man-made cataract instead of a “natural” one?
To: cripplecreek
"A 10 mile buffer zone should effectively evacuate pretty much everybody."
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posted on
05/15/2012 9:29:19 AM PDT
by
Baynative
(REMEMBER: Without America there is no free world!)
To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY
Dams withing spawning proximity to the coast have been constructed with fish ladders for a long time. Not the ones over 175 miles inland.
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posted on
05/15/2012 9:33:20 AM PDT
by
Baynative
(REMEMBER: Without America there is no free world!)
To: Baynative
People moving away and giving up the fight is helping the international activists gain strength.
Where ever there's an abundance of water or a scarcity of water its a steady fight. A small town near me is suing residents who refuse to destroy (destroy not cap) their wells after installing a municipal water system. At the state level, various bills keep being introduced that require that private wells and septic systems be inspected every 10 years. Such an inspection would shut me down immediately since my well and drinfield are both within 100 feet of the lake.
Interestingly enough, a map of the great lakes watershed mimics a map of a vast bio reserve on a UN wishlist I saw some years ago.
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posted on
05/15/2012 9:38:59 AM PDT
by
cripplecreek
(What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
To: Baynative
I fought for almost 20 years. And lost most of the battles. We won a few that judges then rectally invaded. Forget it. Can’t shame me with ‘shoulda stuck it out’. You should move out too. If the ‘internationalists’ win there, it’ll be just part of them owning the world, so in the end, the difference will be that I am now enjoying my life, so that’s a net plus.
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posted on
05/15/2012 9:42:42 AM PDT
by
BelegStrongbow
(St. Joseph, patron of fathers, pray for us!)
To: Baynative; All
Check out www.ispyradio.com and you will see programs on this topic, including an interview with Dr. Houser....also...remember...shortly after Houser’s resignation, the Interior Secretary DELAYED the decision on the dams.....there still is hope!!! The fight is continuing...
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posted on
05/15/2012 9:59:35 AM PDT
by
goodnesswins
(What has happened to America?)
To: amom; Jeff Head
the beat goes on...Klamath pings please
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posted on
05/15/2012 10:09:35 AM PDT
by
KC Burke
(Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years.)
To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
How can you expect the people to wake up when congresscritters are all fast asleep?
Weren’t these elected to stand guard over our Constitution?
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posted on
05/15/2012 10:15:29 AM PDT
by
353FMG
To: goodnesswins
The fight is continuing...
And we are winning a few. Just a few years ago the Argo and Geddes dams on the Huron River in Ann Arbor Mi. were slated for removal. Today it looks like hydro electric generators will go in right in the middle of Berkley East.
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posted on
05/15/2012 10:18:14 AM PDT
by
cripplecreek
(What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
To: Baynative
Liberals would already have a lawsuit at the courthouse - what is wrong with framers and conservatives?
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posted on
05/15/2012 10:21:59 AM PDT
by
q_an_a
(the more laws the less justice)
To: Baynative
Please, people. Take the time to stop, look and listen to what liberals are doing to our country and our freedom!I'm with ya but you & I could not round up 50 people who are willing to put forth some energy & fight back at any one item.
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posted on
05/15/2012 11:11:20 AM PDT
by
Digger
(If RINO is your selection then failure is your election)
To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY
Or is it just offensive to the green-nazis The Greens are useful Idiots, if you think saving fish is their goal, you are underestimating the enemy.
Coming soon......LOST.
New World Order brought to you by the compassionate conservative dynasty of daBushes
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posted on
05/15/2012 11:11:37 AM PDT
by
itsahoot
(I will not vote for Romney period. We have more than enough scum to power the cars.)
To: q_an_a
what is wrong with framers and conservatives? Uh, maybe the conservatives are not really conservatives?
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posted on
05/15/2012 11:15:51 AM PDT
by
itsahoot
(I will not vote for Romney period. We have more than enough scum to power the cars.)
To: Baynative
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posted on
05/15/2012 12:19:35 PM PDT
by
tomkat
(stop that !)
To: Baynative; fish hawk; Grampa Dave; forester
They have no idea how many millions of Cu/Yds of silt are behind these dams nor what it wil do to Kurok, Yurok and Hoopa or the ocean fisheries.
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posted on
05/15/2012 12:40:58 PM PDT
by
tubebender
(I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific.)
To: Baynative
To: Baynative
...to seek social justice. No, what they're seeking is world control. Hitler's come back with a "green" face. They're totalitarians, and deserve to be treated as such.
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posted on
05/15/2012 1:00:19 PM PDT
by
jimt
(Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
To: cripplecreek
Greetings CC:
My memory of the target Great Lakes watershed map extends west to Lake Champlain region on the Ontario westerly border.
BTW, the Chicago region not being within the watershed map is courtesy of two diversion canals with a series of seven dams with navagation locks. Battle lines are being drawn concerning the closure of Illinois Waterway System navagation locks. Proposed means to prevent an invasive species, Asian Carp, from entering the Great Lakes.
Ah, the unintended consequences of doing too good of a job during clean up of Chicago’s toilet flushes.
Cheers,
OLA
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posted on
05/15/2012 1:19:09 PM PDT
by
OneLoyalAmerican
(In God I trust, all others provide citations.)
To: q_an_a
"Liberals would already have a lawsuit at the courthouse - what is wrong with framers and conservatives? I think digger answered this to an extent in #31. Conservatives are not as quick to act until they feel directly threatened while liberals are obsessed with controlling everything and everyone. They never rest and it seems that they have an much larger resource well when it comes to finding money for their causes.
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posted on
05/15/2012 2:08:31 PM PDT
by
Baynative
(REMEMBER: Without America there is no free world!)
To: Baynative
Unfortunate but true. Conservatives tie themselves to one issue at a time while liberals continue picking away at the whole foundation.
Conservatives are wrapped up with Keystone, ANWR, and offshore drilling but I don’t see anyone other than myself talking about the great lakes directional drilling ban. Michigan sits atop one of the largest natural gas deposits in the nation but few people seem to notice it. Meanwhile we fight many separate battles in every township in the state for each well drilled. A single township doesn’t stand much chance against global green groups like “The Waterkeepers” who are heavily funded by the Kennedy family and others.
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posted on
05/15/2012 3:14:39 PM PDT
by
cripplecreek
(What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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