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Posted on 05/19/2012 9:29:10 AM PDT by James Thomas
Congratulations to Breitbart.com for reporting a story the site clearly didn’t care to publish. It seems that in 1991, Barack Obama was indeed representing himself to his literary agency as “born in Kenya, raised in Indonesia and Hawaii.”
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The problem with that, as Second Amendment supporters ultimately found out, is that every single "mistake" wound up pointing in the same general direction.
By the way, so that you know your chicanery doesn’t go unnoticed, let us look at the context of my “in this instance” to see whether you’re on to something about me covering up how “every instance is the wrong instance to [me].” I was saying:
“But you’ve just admitted it’d be okay to go after DUmmies, when they’re wrong—as in this instance I think birthers are wrong for overplaying their hand.”
Here I’m comparing to specific instances: one in which you think DUmmies are wrong, another in which I think you are wrong, in order to argue that it’s okay for both of us—me and you—to go after others when we think they are wrong. Was the above phrased so as to make you think I’ve only thought you were wrong once? No. It’s not even at issue, as I’ve agreed to it several times and never pretended otherwise.
Most importantly, as shown, I charged birthers with pretending everything’s a smoking gun in the original post. So what are you on about, again? Oh, right, the words “in this instance” appeared at some point, and as such it means I’m a liar for presenting myself as something other than a habitual anti-birther. This is significant because...um...to be a habitual anti-birther is wrong. Because it makes you a troll, somehow.
That’s not the conclusion to be drawn, to anyone who didn’t fail reading comphrehension, from an honest reading of my “in this instance” post.
“to” = two
I’m not familiar with this. Would you expand — sounds interesting.
...that every single "mistake" wound up pointing in the same general direction.
His own petard, as it were.
“I didn’t have anything ‘at hand’. I can quickly look up any number of things that you’ve written.”
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. You look them up by hand, anyway, you know. The point is, what kind of non-paranoid person bothers looking up past posts to prove a poster’s an anti-birther when they readily admit to it? What kind of non-paranoid person bothers proving anything with four year old posts, aside from a bald statement from that they never said such a thing?
How easy it is to look up is not the point. The entire point of bringing it up makes you look paranoid, is. And that’s why I brought up the enemies list. Because it’s habit among birthers and groups like them to denounce others solely for having denounced them in the past.
“Seems that you’re the paranoid one.”
No, I know you have an unhealthy interest in my past posts along the lines of having me on an enemies list simply by linking to my past posts when nothing about my past is at issue. I never claimed not to be an anti-birther. My original post made it clear as day that I’m an anti-birther. Your digging up past posts for no good reason makes you look paranoid.
You seem to be naught but a scoffer.
“The same kind of excuse was peddled by another celebrated liberal...The problem with that, as Second Amendment supporters ultimately found out, is that every single ‘mistake’ wound up pointing in the same general direction”
I don’t gte how this relates to the conversation. You’re saying I’m making an “excuse”? What is it? If you’re talking about philman_36’s “in this instance” argument, well, that’s a BS line of attack since I redily admit, and did so in my original post on this thread, that I am not a birther, that I don’t hide that fact, and that I think birthers pretend everything is a smoking gun.
Never subsequently did I say that only in this instance do I disagree with birthers. That is a figment of others’, those who would make “trolls” out of everyone who disagrees with them, imaginations. So whatever you think about me and “mistakes” pointing in the same direction is neither here nor there.
Unless this all has to do with something else, in which case I’d prefer you make that clear or post to something besides #77.
I ahte to say it, but I think you guys have lost all perspective. We’re not arguing about anything anymore; it’s just a series of annoyed grunts. Let me sum up what million more posts would amount to: by disagreeing with you I am a troll and therefore do not deserve the time of day.
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Pigs and chickens are "raised".
Humans (at least, civilized ones) are "REARED".
“I dug them up for a very good reason.”
I think that reason was to prove that I’ve been a troll, in your eyes, for years. But who ever said I wasn’t? I’ve been arguing against birthers for years, so what? What possible significance does that have for anyone who isn’t a paranoiac and won’t listen to anyone outside of the echo chamber? Back in the real world you can’t win an argument by demonstrating your opponents made the same argument they’re making now in the past. It’s neither here nor there.
“It’s too bad you don’t realize that doing so gives an overall example of your view on this, and other, issues.”
I don’t realize that, and I don’t what other issues you’re talking about nor what positions I take on them. I suppose it means I’m a liberal and enemy of the republic, or something. Do tell.
I see, by the way, you’ve dropped the whole “burying the lead” and me hiding my true deep, down anti-birtherism. I made it clear in my first post, which is why you started after me in the first place, after all. Good, we can move on at last.
“and won’t listen to anyone outside of the echo chamber”
Will listen, I meant, to people outside the echo chamber.
Oh for heaven’s sake. This is not a birther issue, it is a frauder issue. Give Barack every benefit of the doubt of being born in the USA under looser modern rules about NBC. Why this incorrect publicity which he never ever corrected? It would also have implied a naturalization event in his life (to be called African-American), an event which of course we never heard anything about. If we don’t see Barack on the pillar here, we see him on the post.
Both words “reared” and “raised” can be used of human children, although “reared” is never used of animals.
“born in Kenya....”
Glad you brought that up.
What I found interesting about the original piece from Breitbart was the editor who claimed it was her error did go in an edit it (I think 2003) and left the “born in Kenya” but added “raised in Indonesia and Hawaii and CHICAGO”.
Clearly, to me, he was gearing up for the Chicago race.
You seem intent on trying to avoid acknowledging that this directly points, in any way, to presidential eligibility.
“It’s too bad you don’t realize that doing so gives an overall example of your view on this, and other, issues.”
This, right here, demonstrates how very paranoid you are (”too bad you don’t realize” it). Nevermind that it was never a secret in the first place that I’m anti-birther. You go digging around for clues as to who’s against you, assuming all sorts of things from particular arguments. Like if I say birthers here, in this instance, are overplaying their hand, it stands to reason that I may be against birthers in general (nevermind I made it readily apparent and never denied it). Which, okay, everyone does it to a point. No sense pretending we’re all objective, disinterested commentators.
But to then proceed to ignore others on the basis of them belonging to larger groups, that’s where you get paranoid. Just as you’re not out to get liberals and conservative anti-birthers, and are only interest in “the truth,” did it ever occur to you the opposition is, too? But no, if I have a history of anti-birther posts it means I’m a “troll” and need not be treated like a real human poster. Moreover, it probably means I’m not even a conservative, and am only on FR to stir up the true believers and delay them from fulfilling their real duties.
Ah, the close-mindedness of the conspiracy nut. Everyone’s out to get you, and the rest of the world are a bunch of trolls, when they haven’t been compromised by fear of a leftist media and bribes from the Obama campaign.
When it comes to Obama’s birth fraud, every thing is a smoking gun Troll.
There is absolutely zero evidence for an obama birth in the US. Everything ever presented as “evidence” has been fully debunked, including the supposed newspaper birth announcement.
You fail again (or is it still?)
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