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Navy marks Battle of Midway's 70th anniversary (It happened 70 years ago today)
AP/Boston Globe ^ | June 4, 2012 | Audrey McAvoy

Posted on 06/04/2012 5:35:05 AM PDT by Zakeet

Six months after the devastating attack on Pearl Harbor, Japan sent four aircraft carriers to the tiny Pacific atoll of Midway to draw out and destroy what remained of the U.S. Pacific Fleet.

But this time the U.S. knew about Japan's plans. U.S. cryptologists had cracked Japanese communications codes, giving Fleet Commander Adm. Chester Nimitz notice of where Japan would strike, the day and time of the attack, and what ships the enemy would bring to the fight.

The U.S. was badly outnumbered and its pilots less experienced than Japan's. Even so, it sank four Japanese aircraft carriers the first day of the three-day battle and put Japan on the defensive, greatly diminishing its ability to project air power as it had in the attack on Hawaii.

On Monday, current Pacific Fleet commander, Adm. Cecil Haney and other officials will fly 1,300 miles northwest from Oahu to Midway to market the 70th anniversary of the pivotal battle that changed the course of the Pacific war.

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Japan; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: anniversary; california; hawaii; japan; midway; navy; worldwareleven; worldwarii
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Battle of Midway: A handful of U.S. sailors did the impossible and changed the course of a war.

1 posted on 06/04/2012 5:35:11 AM PDT by Zakeet
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To: SunkenCiv; Homer_J_Simpson

ping


2 posted on 06/04/2012 5:40:58 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Zakeet
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Those immortal words ...

"Strawberry Nine, Strawberry Nine ..."

and

"Scratch One Flat Top" ...




Strength and Honor ... to the Enterprise, Hornet and Yorktown ...



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3 posted on 06/04/2012 5:44:02 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin will DEFEAT the Obama-Romney Socialist Gay-Marriage Axis of Evil)
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To: Zakeet
Pretty good flick too ...

4 posted on 06/04/2012 5:45:27 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Zakeet
Yes, my hat is off and my hand is over my heart.

“The U.S. was badly outnumbered and its pilots less experienced than Japan's”

Yes while this is true in the theater, at the actually point of attack the US Navy had the advantage, three carriers plus Midway's air field, including B-17 heavy bombers.

5 posted on 06/04/2012 5:48:57 AM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: Zakeet

Love this thanks for posting.


6 posted on 06/04/2012 5:50:11 AM PDT by angcat (GO YANKS!)
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To: Zakeet
God reached down, during that time, and gave America a divine wind and win. Had that battle been lost, the outcome would have hobbled our Nation. The Japanese Navy had not lost a battle until Midway. Midway (though not the midway of the war) and this Nation's Heroes turned the tide to island hopping as Japan was beaten back. Control of the Pacific was relinquished to America during the battle. What was thought to be impossible was done in less than seventy two hours.
7 posted on 06/04/2012 5:55:27 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

How close a thing it was, and how those two extra carrier groups might have turned the tide against us.

Midway was the tipping point in the Pacific war.

The Japanese public wasn’t told the details of the defeat until 1955.

Thanks Zakeet for the topic, and Thank You to those who served, whether here or hereafter.


8 posted on 06/04/2012 5:59:28 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Patton@Bastogne
Yea but the movie “MIDWAY” is terrible....fyi the famed statement “scratch one flattop” is really from the battle of the Coral Sea
9 posted on 06/04/2012 6:04:05 AM PDT by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: Zakeet
The U.S. was badly outnumbered and its pilots less experienced than Japan's.

Not really. It wasn't a "miracle" either. People need to read "Shattered Sword."

We won because we were better.

10 posted on 06/04/2012 6:04:42 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Zakeet

The men at Station HYPO under Joseph Rochefort are the ones who deserve the most credit. They broke JN-25. Thanks to them we knew the Japs were going to attack at Midway on 4 June with Kaga, Akagi, Hiryu and Soryu.


11 posted on 06/04/2012 6:09:53 AM PDT by moonshot925
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To: Strategerist
You might also like "The Quiet Warrior", the biography of RADM Ray Spruance, who was in command at Midway.
12 posted on 06/04/2012 6:12:23 AM PDT by a6intruder (downtown with big bombs, 24/7, rain or shine, day or night)
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To: Strategerist
We won because we were better.

Yep. A good big guy beats a good little guy, every single time.

The Japanese were never really in the fight. The best that they could have hoped for (in fact, what Yamamoto was hoping for) was to hit the US hard enough so that we'd leave them alone. While this in no way should diminish what we accomplished in the Pacific, the fact remains that the Japanese picked a fight that they couldn't win.

Now Germany, on the other hand, was a much closer thing. A couple of slightly different choices (von Rundstedt keeps the panzers rolling at Dunkirk, instead of stopping for 48 hours, for instance) ....and the last 70 years would have been about the 3rd Reich.

13 posted on 06/04/2012 6:18:51 AM PDT by wbill
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14 posted on 06/04/2012 6:20:39 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

“Midway was the tipping point in the Pacific war”

I don’t think so. Even if we lost all three carriers at Midway and the Japs lost none, the outcome would still be the same. By 31 December 1943 we would have 7 Essex CVs, 9 Independence CVLs and 20 Casablanca CVEs in commission. And another 7 Essex CVs and 30 Casablanca CVEs would be commissioned in 1944. The Japanese were doomed.


15 posted on 06/04/2012 6:26:01 AM PDT by moonshot925
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To: 2001convSVT

Ok you strap on a Grumman Wildcat and go up against an A-6M Zeke. We will come to your funeral.


16 posted on 06/04/2012 6:30:13 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Zakeet
Captain Richard Fleming was the only man to win the Congressional Medal of Honor during this crucial battle.
17 posted on 06/04/2012 6:36:55 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Zakeet

Thank you!
My career Navy father survived the sinking Yorktown.
After almost 92 good years the Navy returned him to the Pacific.


18 posted on 06/04/2012 6:42:18 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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To: moonshot925

December 1943 was 18 months later, and while I’m sure the war would have ended by now, the ending would have been delayed by a year or more had we lost at Midway. The real Japanese land war was in China, and had been going on for years before Pearl Harbor. They’d driven out the British, and relied on the ocean itself (and those dug-in fight to the death Japanese soldiers on the needed islands) to keep the US from invading the home islands.

Had they prepared for a longer time, they would ultimately have still seen a couple of their cities get vaporized by nukes — assuming the US had the means to deliver them. Without the victory at Midway, that would have been impossible in 1945; a defeat at Midway would have had an impact on the outcome of the European war as well.

The Japanese fought the Pacific war as if it were a land war, which is weird because as an nation of islands they have a long maritime tradition. Sending those two carrier groups to the Aleutians as a diversion was just nutty, and they couldn’t make up the losses they suffered at Midway, probably as a consequence of the diversion.


19 posted on 06/04/2012 6:43:49 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Strategerist; Zakeet
We won because:

A: Admiral Yamamoto was overconfident and his battle plan was deeply flawed. He assumed-incorrectly-that US carrier strenth in the Pacific was down to two ships. Therefore he was unwilling to wait for two additional heavy carriers to become available. Even worse, he split up his forces leaving the four heavy carriers that he did choose to commit with almost no screening ships.

B: Carrier Admiral Nagumo was indecisive, unimaginitive and overcautious. His insistence on re-arming the attack planes with torpedos and AP bombs after sightning the American carriers had the effect of making his own carriers into floating bombs at the exact moment that they were attacked. Too bad, so sad for him.

C: But mainly we hit them first, and hit them hardest. We were able to do this thanks to the fact that we had broken their codes. And because of the miraculously fast repairs to the Yorktown we were not as outnumbered as Yamamoto thought.

20 posted on 06/04/2012 6:44:59 AM PDT by jboot (Emperor: "How will this end?" Kosh: "In fire.")
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