Posted on 06/12/2012 2:48:53 PM PDT by marktwain
Federal authorities say they seized more than 32,000 rounds of ammunition that was likely destined for Mexico during a raid last week on a stash house in downtown Nogales.
Acting on information they developed about a stash house on Paseo del Sur, a one-block, dead-end street in a residential neighborhood on the east side of town, special agents with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement's Homeland Security Investigations (ICE HIS) raided the home last Tuesday, June 5.
Inside, ICE said, the agents “discovered a large cache of ammunition that they suspect was being staged to smuggle into Mexico.”
Seized were 10,000 7.62-caliber rounds; 8,000 .223-caliber rounds; 5,000 9 mm rounds; 5,000 .38 Super rounds; 3,500 .45-caliber rounds; and 1,000 10 mm rounds.
As of Monday, no arrests had been made in the case, which remains under investigation.
What they found
• 10,000 7.62- caliber rounds
• 8,000 .223- caliber rounds
• 5,000 9-mm rounds
• 5,000 .38 Super rounds
• 3,500 .45-caliber rounds
• 1,000 10-mm rounds.
Think I have that much in my couch
Why did they impound the ammunition?
They are still trying to peddle the “lax U.S. gun laws are responsible for Drug Cartel violence” B.S..
Unless they have evidence of another crime, this is an illegal seizure.
You know you have enough when you start making furniture with the unopened cases.
I don't believe there were any 'citizens' living in that house, from the description.
marktwain,
Lady friend of mine is an EMT firewoman in Duval county, Florida. (Jacksonville) She is in rural western part of the county and I asked, soooo, since there are no really big tall building in your area, what is the danger?
She said, “ everyone” out here be it a mansion or a single wide trailer has an arsenal.
Ya never know when said arsenal is going to go off.
Don’t be around me house if it catches fire.
Coming soon to a neighborhood near you.
He should have bought gold. Brass and lead is worthless if confiscated
THAT is unlawful now?
Lucky I lost all of mine in that boating accident this spring I guess.
You've got to be kidding.
At the price of ammo now? It would take a second mortgage.
But I know what you mean. I have a battle box full of 1,440 round and thought that was a lot.
I have more than that within 5 feet of me, and probably 10x that total stashed away... before the boating accident, of course.
how much is confiscated gold worth? illegally confiscated is illegally confiscated.
That reminds me - I’m a little low on 10mm.
I purchased much of my SHTF ammo during the clintoon years.
The value of that investment has kept pace with the increase in the price of gold.
Still - 32K rounds is a good start, but one shouldn’t stop there.
Just barely got me beat on .38 Super.
Well, someone had a good start....................
It’s very popular in Mexico because for a long time they had a law prohibiting “military” calibers, i.e. the .45.
It is a great round though, I scored two boxes of Silvertips a couple days ago for a good price. They seem to feed in my LW Commander better than Cor-Bon.
Piker. I use mine as as coffee table. :)
I’m kinda suspect that the 10mm and .38super are for drug cartels. Price would be cheaper.
Don’t look in my basement.
;)
Not that I would have ended up a criminal otherwise, but when I look back at those years I realize how lucky I was to grow up at the gun club. Most of the "old guys" that ran the place were WWII vets, we had a couple retired police officers, and just about any profession you could think of. It was a place where doctors hung out with mechanics, loggers were good friends with engineers.
Yes, there was a time when all men took part in the raising of boys, and we had a civil society.
Well, all those guns Holder shipped them are pretty well useless without bullets.
5,000 .38 Super rounds
This is a round very rarely seen these days, outside of competition shooting. USPSA/IPSC "race guns" are usually chambered for .38 Super, due to the fact that they can be classed as "major caliber" while having a much lower recoil than other major caliber rounds. And much safer than trying to load 9mm to major caliber power factors.
10mm would also be unusual for criminal use. I wonder if they actually busted a competition shooter - That amount of ammo for a competition shooter would last less than a month.
Mark
.38 Super has long been popular in Mexico, because the .45 was outlawed for civilian ownership as a “military” caliber.
10mm has a prestige factor for the bangers. In 2006 a Sheriff’s Deputy in my neck of the woods was killed by a thug with a Glock 10mm during a traffic stop. It’s seen as a macho round.
These rounds make sense if they were going to smuggle them into Mexico.
With primers, cases, and powder; all put together to make a cartridge... something useful in a firearm.
Interesting that they would have so much .38 Super. It’s not as common a caliber as 9mm or .45.
32k rounds is not a lot of ammo. I used to have more than that, until the tragic boating accident took almost half, after the flood that washed away the other half.
Drug cartels use .38 Super and 10mm? Something stinks about that right there.
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Dang! Who woulda thought another person on here would have suffered a similar tragedy?
Holy crap! Another one! We are one unlucky bunch, it seems.
5000 rounds of 38 super. That seals the deal it was bound for sonora ....:o)
Or my old nickle plated 1911A1 el presidente in the same caliber.
Agree on the numbers. Pretty much a six month loadout for a regular 3 gun and IDPA shooter.
No fowtay?
You still have to own an El Presidente to get a NM drivers license ?
So is gold.
The BATFE thanks you for your transparency.
Our SWAT team will be there shortly.
Seriously, I have more than 32K in ONE caliber.
One thousand rounds of 10mm? Ha! Must not shoot that one much.
Of course the average idiot only keeps about 3 boxes of 20 in his home, so 32,000 rounds sounds like a huge number.
More 'Fast and Furious' psyops crap from the evil government.
Oh Noes! Not the 10mm!
A right handsome shooting iron, FRiend!
38super is legal in Mehico, 45 is not.
Mine was all lost in a cave in. The hole just fell in. Gosh it was only about two feet deep, but it caved in. So I marked the spot and left.
Guess we are all Walmart to the feds now.
I like it! All those shells look like they’ve been shot though. I reload shotgun shells ...
No 10mm is for everyone who didn’t switch to 40 cal just because the FBI did.
I guess Holder told the DEA to stop the next shipment to the Cartels and they are trying to turn it into a positive news event for the MSM.
I’m with you. Ammo is not illegal. On what grounds did they seize the ammo?
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